Get rid of Theo Walcott ASAP.

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  • #1135998

    the bsm walk
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    Oh my god; how truly terrible is Theo Walcott? The guy just doesn’t see or know the game. He has no awareness that a team mate is overlapping and just doesn’t know what to do when the ball is at his feet. I absolutely laugh at those who suggested we should get rid of Ox and keep Theo instead! Ha! Ox showed more ability in the game against the Mls stars than Theo did since he’s been with us! I don’t care if players are rusty or unfit, what is Chamberlains excuse for putting in a great performance then? He should be equally unfit and rusty as the rest of them? People think I’m being harsh as its only pre-season but hand on heart who thinks Walcott has got a lot to offer apart from pace? Even then it’s pace off the ball which is only half way useful…

    #1136001

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    By the way, I stayed up to watch the whole game last night, stand out performers were Bielik, Chamberlain and Xhaka in his half time cameo. Actually, really like the look of Xhaka his passing is very crisp, clean neat and tidy. Reminds me Xabi Alonso (although not sure what Xhaka’s long passing range is like).

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    the specialone
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    Walcott isn’t a terrible player by any means.Has he been playing like that?Yes he has.
    Obviously though,again we have our great manager to blame for that.Walcott looks like a player with no confidence whatsoever,on top of that if wenger is going to play him as a centre forward then obviously he will perform much worse.He has done nothing to prove he can succeed in that position,and wenger again and again and again insists on putting him there!

    If you play Koscielny at right back,do you think he will give the same performances.
    Wenger first and foremost has to stop playing players out of positions.I still believe walcott could be very useful but under the right management.To sell him would be foolish and we wouldn’t even get what he’s worth because Arsenal don’t know how to deal in the transfer market.

    #1136346

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    I am another who has always felt Walcott lacked the footballing IQ to reach his full potential. He has to be the fastest player I have ever seen who actually has no idea how to use his pace in a football match. I actually feel he is better suited as a striker, but not in Arsenal colours. He has no skill to bypass players who show him down the wing and seems unable to grasp the idea of just knocking the ball past a player, to use his pace to leave them behind. I would credit his movement off the ball is good and given the space playing against a team that would sit higher up the pitch, he could be deadly. This would be similar to how Vardy played last season, with the space to run behind the defence.But for a team like Arsenal who’s opposition tend to defend deep, he’s ineffective and really isn’t getting anywhere at the club.

    #1136457

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    TSO – your comparison is ridiculous. Koscienly may not be a great attacking right back, but he would sure be a great defending right back. Theo Walcott lacks the fundamental things to make him a good footballer, okay let’s also blame Wenger for Chamberlains good performance against Mls because he’s been given far worse treatment by Wenger. Walcott as I said has no awareness, appreciation of team mates around him. He is just not a footballer. No dribbling ability, poor first touch. What’s he good for? Running into empty space and shooting on sight, and even then it’s not that great. I’m all for critcising Wenger, but I believe no manager in the world could make Theo better, he just doesn’t have the ability.

    #1136505
    the specialone
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    Actually,Your criticism of Walcott is ridiculous.At the moment he is completely short on confidence,and the main point I’m making is that he’s being made to play out of position which is the main reason I feel he is not performing at the moment or has not over the past year.His stats have been impressive at Arsenal at right wing.But again I understand theo and Alexis can’t play together on either of the wings,but that dosen’t mean he should be shifted up top just for the sake of it.

    He’s not a Centre forward,I’m not saying he’s a brilliant player I’m saying he could prove to be a very useful player.He’s not even in our first team so he should be the last of our concerns.He get paid £100k a week is it,well there are many other over paid players at Arsenal so you can’t really single him out.
    He’s having a rough patch,because he’s been made to play out of position but that doesn’t mean we should get rid of him.

    I have confidence in him because he has proven to be succeed in the right wing position(and also been useful against big teams).But his career has been happened by injuries.All I’m saying is don’t judge him when he’s made to play out of position.

    #1136538

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    It’s not ridiculous. Your comparison wasn’t relevant at all to anything, I’m saying he can’t even do the simple things, and that doesn’t dictate what position you’re playing in. If Ramsey played centre forward, you’re saying he couldn’t see the game? He may not score goals, he may not even get into the right positions – but he will not cock up like Walcott: I take your playing out of position doesn’t help, but you honestly think Walcott would have a good first touch, awareness of people around him, and good technical ability even out wide as you said. I’m with you, I do believe at best he’s a second striker in a two man system or a wide right player, not a target man/centre forward. But wasn’t he the one throwing his toys out the pram, crying if he never got the chance to play centre forward, he would leave the club? The man is bleeding us for 120k a week, and he’s been with us for how long now? Sorry, don’t think my criticism is at all ridiculous. Poor player, just like the majority of the English lot, no flair or technique.

    #1136568

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    Bsm- fully agree with you that Walcott should be dispensed with asap, but we have had that discussion on here a few weeks ago and as far as I recall there were only two in favour of keeping him and the rest thought him a waste of space and money. Walcott is not a striker ( apart from a few rare instances against rubbish teams); he’s not a winger, even after all this time; he’s not improved in 10 years; he lacks any nous, intelligence and commitment and seems content to pick up £140k a week ( not £100k a week TSO) to sit on his backside. He’s somehow now convinced Wenger that he should remain and I assume that was one of the reasons our astute manager chickened out of the Mkhitaryan deal- brilliant decision. No, a very limited, injury prone and expensive luxury- get rid, I’d keep the Ox any day, so much more to him as player. Surely people like Walcott, Debuchy and Gibbs can be dispensed with now- say £30m in cash at once and an annual saving of £12m in salaries- no brainer!

    #1136601

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    TSO – I have to say – I’m tending more toward bsm’s line of thinking if I’m honest. He’s proving himself to be nothing short of useless on the whole – and I think I’m being kind! And it’s very interesting that people blame Wenger for “playing Theo out of position” when he was the one who used that to hold us to ransom before signing his most recent contract.

    Now, he’s flopped up front just like many fans knew he would, and it’s Wenger’s fault? The only thing I blame Wenger for is giving him the time that he has, and mainly at the expense of other players! I have never seen a more consistently invisible player! Zero football acumen, zero effort, zero workrate, zero vision, poor touch, waste of pace, average finishing which is supposedly the best part of his game… He clearly has done little work on his game, and he epitomises everything that is wrong with Wenger and his team. Afterall, why should he work hard when he will continue to be played, rewarded and remunerated regardless?

    I like the “stat” that it takes Walcott 12.5 days to earn what Obama earns in a year! Just what are we suddenly expecting to see from this chap that he hasn’t shown in the last decade? He’s done! Get rid of him and move on, I say!

    #1136691
    Arsenal_FC
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    Since his long term injury, Walcott has been awful but before that he has been okay. He’s the highest scoring right winger after Ronaldo left the English Premier League, that must be taken under consideration as well. However if he still fail to improve his form, he doesn’t deserve to stay in the team.

    #1136769
    The Oracle
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    Get rid of Wenger would be a much better idea. He has ruined Walcott, just about any other manager in the PL would get more out of him. Wenger has repeatedly stated that Walcott is a top quality player who plays with intelligence so where does the fault lie? It lies with The leech.

    #1136820
    the specialone
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    My problem with this argument is that you guys are judging walcott based on him being made to play out of position.I’m sorry,but you simply can’t just play him wherever you want and then come on and criticise him and not the manager.He can’t do the simple things at the moment because he is short on confidence(this is the third time I’m mentioning this).You need to have some sort of belief in the way you are suppose to play.

    Last season,wasn’t walcott fantastic during the christmas period when Alexis wasn’t there.I mean at one point I’m sure there were so many on here Hoping alexis not to even come back because he was on such good form.Why?Because he was playing as a winger.
    It’s the same argument again and again we have of being players made to play out of position.If you look at Ozil,in his second season remember when wenger decided to shift him out wide and how terrible he was.After he came back in to a more central position,he almost broke the PL assists record last season!Where a player plays and if the team is accustomed to his attributes matters a lot!

    For me,it just dosen’t make sense to get rid of him.For starters we won’t even get anywhere near what he’s worth.And second like I said he isn’t in the first team so it’s not really a huge issue for him to be a squad player.I think he’s a useful squad player.If you’re looking at his wages?Why single him out there are hundreds of thousands of pounds wenger has wasted on wages by overpaying certain players.

    #1136844

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    TSO – From the beginning, I always maintained Walcott was best suited to being out wide. It was a mistake to succumb to his wishes to play upfront, and not only has it set him back and killed his confidence, but I would also say that we have evolved as a team now and I don’t even think he’s good enough for us as a first teamer in his best position at RW.

    My biggest gripe with him, certainly compared to Ox and Campbell, is that he doesn’t even put in the work. Clearly on the training ground because he really has not developed or evolved much in the last decade. But also on the pitch. His workrate is abysmal, especially for someone who doesn’t contribute much else. He MUST work harder or at least be clinical with his end-product to justify being in the side. He does neither!

    He just annoys me now because it’s players like this that have sucked at the teat for years lapping up milk that WE have paid for, given us false hope, and prevented Wenger from buying better players due to that false hope. I’m just done with all that stuff – bring people in that will either appreciate the chance and develop, or preferably are able to do the job now!

    #1136940
    the specialone
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    barber – Well I did remember once that theo did come out and say that he wants to play in a central position.That was a rather desperate or foolish statement to make.I agree he has been poor recently.But I simply refuse to criticise players if they are being played in an unnatural position.How can you expect him to take the chance when he has no idea what he’s supposed to do in that position.He was so clueless upfront in the friendlies,he can’t even perform up their in a non competitive match so we should forget about playing him upfront.

    I personally do still believe he has a thing or two to prove.And He has done nothing prove he can’t play in a right wing position.Wenger has to stop confusing these players.In my opinion atleast,walcott can come in and be of handy should alexis get injured like last season.But again,why are we discussing so much about a player who is the least of the club’s worries.He’s not in the first team anyways,he’s a squad player at the moment.His experience can be useful to us.

    #1136943

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    Why are you still overlooking the fact TSO, that out wide or not, he still would look like a wally. After all, there’s a reason why everyone calls him Wally Walcott. What seems to mask some of his deficiencies is that space to run into that has been left by a full back that’s pushed on and suddenly it looks like he’s doing something worthwhile. 9 times out of 10 the move however, comes to nothing – get to the byline, do all the hard work only for it all to come unstuck when he plays the wrong pass/cross. And still there are some who criticise Wenger for this? This is not his fault in this case, how much has he truly improved? Such a poor technical player…

    #1137387

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    Theo was a must in our old team as he was the only player constantly making runs behind and off the ball every one of our forwards except him wanted it to feet all the time. Plus He also will score more goals than anyone else playing wide right in that squad and have more assists than all his completion. His issues are he is the worst player technically. Playing with alexis unbalances the team and defensively he is a shocker. The ox is the best player for that position but his final ball, shooting is poor. He will not get as many goals or assists but I still think he can get that in his game but it needs to come soon.campbell is good but not great at anything good squad player, Ramsey in a centre mid full stop. Mharez would be better than them all but it but someone big will have to go if he come in.

    #1137981

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    TSO – I think it comes down to wages with a lot of fans. That Walcott can now be seen as a bona fide squad player and still take home the sort of wages that could easily have been used to lure a better, more productive and more consistent player. The wages are too high, and the chances given too many, for someone like him who does not and has never really consistently delivered.

    He’s had his moments over the years but, like most other young talents before him, the fans cut him a lot of slack for ages because we were hoping he would repay the investment. I think he’s getting it thick now because he happens to be the biggest liability at a point where fans are simply frustrated and have had enough of underachievers and freeloaders. We’ve been patient!

    He’s the first person in the squad I would get rid of if I had the chance, even before Mertesacker – he’s useless, won’t be missed AND we might be able to convince other clubs that he has some value! Win-win in all aspects. Even if we used that money (c.20-25m) to buy Sofiane Boufal, eg., you could give him a third or even half of those wages and he would offer a helluva lot more than Walcott does. Certainly a better ROI!

    I just don’t see where we go from here with him. Why does Wenger persist with these losers? What could he possibly have in his locker that we haven’t seen yet? The worst thing would be for him to p!$$ about as he is, only for him to run down his contract and leave for free anyway… Or worse, sucker Wenger into giving him another contract! That would really tick me off! Get money for him if we can now, and cut our huge losses!

    #1138098
    the specialone
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    I think the lot of you are over criticising here,and solely judging him on the friendlies performances(Again in a wrong CF position).Yes,he was useless in these friendlies.But two bad games in an unnatural position dosen’t turn him into a bad player just like that.

    You label him “useless”.I mean come on mate,do you really believe that.He might have a small footballing brain and might not have been able to fill the boots of Henry(Like most of you expected him to),but to make him out to be an amateur.If he was an amateur,he wouldn’t have had impressive stats like he does.If he was useless,he wouldn’t have survived at the club long enough.If he was really that useless,he wouldn’t have come in for sanchez and done a good job last season.

    Wages?I agree he is overpaid but don’t single him out.There are many players that are overpaid at Arsenal and many resources of the club wenger has wasted.fOR EXAMPLE,Why is Jack wilshere(who I love by the way) still at the club.His injury record is pathetic.Why was diaby so many years at the club,rosicky?These are players I love by the way,but in terms of resource management my point is don’t single theo walcott out.If anyone should be blamed it’s wenger.

    #1138500

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    we should have got rid of theo this summer.he needs a change as
    much as we do.he’s not good enough up front that’s for sure.i
    have no doubt that walcott would not play for the likes of
    moanio,guardiola etc.i like theo a lot but i can’t believe
    he’s still at the club.

    #1140291
    AndyC
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    Im with TSO on this one, Walcott has been badly mismanaged by the clown in charge.
    Ian wright wummed it up perfectly last season. He said its too late for walcott to become a striker now, if wenger truly signed him as striker in teh making he would have started him there from the off and played someone up with him ala bergkamp/wright, bergkamp/henry.
    Wenger has sensationally ruined walcott, he doesnt know what he is, he doesnt seem to have the confidence to produce what he was pre injury and part of that does come with not knowing what your manager really wants from you. He needs a strong arm around him and some direction something wenger cannot and will not ever be able to offer him.
    If i were walcott i would look for the move, start fresh somewhere else. I bet if klopp, jose, conte or pep got a hold of him you would see a far better player next season.

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