Hector bellerin needs to leave

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    the specialone
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    Anyone else seen pictures of his antics and outfits he’s been wearing during london Fashion week, while “apparently” nursing a knee injury.It’s embarrasing for the club and himself.
    Now I couldn’t care less about what players do off the field,but so long as they don’t lose their concentration on it.And this guy,has been crap for a couple of years now.Let me rephrase that,in his first season we saw potential to become the best right backs in the world.He gave some stellar performances.I even went as far as to call him the one of the best right backs in the world.Ever since then,he’s lost complete focus,and is not even performing 20% of his ability.He can get up and down the pitch sure but his end product is mostly horrendous.
    I don’t think he has the mentality to fully make use of the talent he’s been blessed with.he’s too weak,lacks passion and lacks aggression.
    we need to replace him,hell I’d even go as far as playing carl jenkinson ahead of him.

    It’s no wonder that Barcelona who have needed very good right back since dani alves left didn’t go all in for bellerin.
    This guy,he’s worse than Pogba.Except Pogba grabs the headlines because he’s much better and has actually achieved something in his career.

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    I could say the same about LK, Mustafi, Chambers and Monreal. The question is more who should be first out the door.

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    I would take Monreal off your list, he has been very consistent over the years and is one of the few on field leaders left at Arsenal.

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    You would have a point if you were talking last season.

    He’s actually improved under Emery since last season and has been missed during his injury. End product much better this season if you look at his cut backs into the box etc. A lot of people have been saying we’ve missed him.

    The likes of Iwobi, Elneny, Mikhi I’d sooner have out the door first.

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    Dont get me wrong I like Monreal but he is getting older and has seen his fair share of injuries as of late. Thats why and only why we cant keep them just because of what they have done it has to be based on what they can do.

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    All those other players are not sporting clown outfits,attending fashion events and tweeting dross all week while apparently nursing an injury.So while Arsenal was being thrashed by teams like Liverpool,he was upto all of this.The guy is an embarrasment to the club.For me,I’ve always said he’s had the talent and still does but he dosen’t have the mentality and focus to make full use of it.
    He hasn’t imporved under emery as well.Sure like always he can ge tup and down the pitch well and into good positions but his end product is just terrible.As far as I’m concerned,he’s very easily replaceable.

    As for Monreal,he’s been by far our best defender for five or six years now.His injuries are not that bad,except for this season.We’ve had players like mertesacker who have missed more than half the season,played one or two games only.
    Yes we need a long term replacement for monreal,but i’d keep him anyway for one or two years as unlike other pretendious people he can actually provide some good leadership.

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    TSO, since you’re a lover of stats as that’s what you defend players with check out his stats compared to same games played last season… there’s improvement so you can’t say no.

    Secondly, not saying they are the voice of everyone but just like you I’ll refer to others but Aftv used to rip Bellerin to shreds, each and every single one of them. Nobody held back last season, fast forward this season and every single one and I mean every one of them said how we’ve missed him a lot.

    I couldn’t care less what he does outside of the pitch, unless his performances are like that of last year, no problem with him at the moment.

    And of course if you’re saying to me are there upgrades available, of course there are. But we are not going to sign world class players in every position… we don’t have the money for that. We need to prioritise the money on wide players and defence.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    whats peoples views on Suarez at Barca? the MF….

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    Without being Insulting this is a silly post. Why bring up the fashion thing then say that’s nothing to do with why you want him out. He was poor last season but has been very good this year so far. What he does outside the club is irrelevant to me on the pitch is where it counts and he has been good this season. Its one of the last positions we need to replace in fact we need another as back ups not great.

    As for Suarez looks great in the highlights and on You Tube but who doesn’t? I have not seen enough of him but not sure anyone has as he cant get in the team. I assume he must have been half decent as he had a few clubs after him and Barca brought him back but that’s it. We need numbers as well as quality and if he is less that 20 mil and only 24 then not to much of a gamble.

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    Stev,

    Never seen him play hence my asking if anyone has better knowledge on him, not getting into a Barca team isnt always the worst thing….

    What worries me is allegedly we want him on loan for now as we CANT stump up £20m? thats worrying if true

    We are also being heavily linked to Yannick Carrasco, not sure about this, coming from China….

    As for Bellerin, whast the issue (at presnt) last few years, dog shite, this year much better, and if “nursing an injury” and cant play who gives a fuck where he goes and what he does as long as he does it on the pitch?

    Lets see were we are after next summer with the team and squad, and thats largely going to be down to the owner rather than Emery

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    BSM and Stev – I don’t neglect stats at all,but if you’re going to use it in your argument atleast mention those “improving stats”.I haven’t seen them personally,but just at the back of my mind we must’ve conceded more goals than last season at this same stage?(I mean it was our worst season so it’s not even a fair comparison).So automatically defesnively we haven’t improved.Offensively we are much better.However,you’ve said individual stats.So I’m all ears.
    AFTV is a really poor panel,the only reason it gained popularity was because people just kept fighting and ranting at each other and other fans enjoyed it.But in terms of pure football knowledge they’re probably the worst I’ve seen,bar one or two.

    Simple fact is bellerin has loads of talent,but he simply is lost the focus he had during his first season.Infact,he’s very immature to suceed.Emery needs to have a chat with him to stop acting like a clown off the pitch,and focus all his energy on the pitch because clearly he isn’t the same player he was.

    Denis suarez?Don’t even get me started.I don’t even want to talk about the transfer happenings and dross mismanagement going on at the club right now..

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    TSO so I assume you don’t know anything about Suarez, Steveo as you said its not the end of the world not getting in at Barca but it means he has not played so be keen to see if anyone knows anything about him?

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    Google the stats, again I’m not one for stats I read it on an article on goal.com I think? I’m just saying since you swear by it then it obviously kills your argument.

    Bellerin is one of the issues that isn’t most prevalent in the team, would you not agree that there are more issues elsewhere? Also I bet you if we had two good centre backs then the defensive line improves automatically that includes Bellerin.

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    Denis Suarez will be utilised as a wide player and not a replacement for Ramsey imo. He’s good but not sure how fast he is. Hard to dislodge Barca’s midfielders to be fair.

    Yannick Carrasco, I like the player and would be an improvement to our wide players.

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    I can’t believe anyone would want Bellerin to leave. Have you seen what’s happened since he’s been injured?

    Also Iwobi. Everything we have created lately have come through him and like Bellerin he has massively improved and Emery.

    I am not sure about Suarez but if all we can afford is a loan player that is a worry.

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    stev – I do know about Suarez,I’ve watched him at barca many times.He’s a decent talent who needs to move on to get playing time.I just don’t agree with that decision we’ve made.

    We’re letting go of a proven PL player and in many aspects a club legend who actually wanted to stay at the club and is at his peak in rambo,and replacing him with someone who dosen’t even get to play for Barca’s second team.There’s absolutely no logic whatsoever in that,except that kronke and this club are successfully destorying this club.
    I had told you guys,that letting Ramsey go is a lose lose situation for Arsenal.If judging it financially,if we were to get a replacement of similar quality he’d cost the same if not more in both transfer fee and wages.And if we are not getting a player of similar quality,we’d most likely still spend just about the same maybe a couple of million less and we would be downgrading.
    Hence,I said the transfer mishappenings at this club are just beyond explainable now.
    Suarez is not even that physical,so you don’t know for sure how he’d fare.You’re wiling to let go of a sure thing and risking it on someone else.I’d rather that snake Gazidis still stayed if kronke is still here because atleast we still would’ve kept ramsey.Oh,but now we’re even worse off so if you think of it gazidis was probably doing a better job than this idiotic lot.

    There’s no ambition at this club,there’s no sense of improvement even.Complete and utter dross mismanagement of resources.it’s all happening under kronke,someone who’s the only one in the PL who hasn’t pumped in a singe quid of his own into the club.The only one in the PL.Under him,I guarantee you we’d be lucky to see even top four let alone winning trophies.It’s begun.And I will not stop about kronke because everything eventually leads back to him.People don’t want to accept it but we’re more closer to the level of everton than the ones ahead of us.He has to leave,he has to leave and maybe we all can get some hope for the club.

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    BSM – I’d happily keep bellerin but if and only if he improves his attitude,which is what this whole thread is about.I only bought him up because how far such a talented young right back potential to be the world’s best has gone backwards over the past few years.He’s not the same player he was and we’ve given him 2 years now.His focus is not fully towards football,the day he fulfills his potential and starts giving those stellar performances on the pitch i couldn’t give a shit about what he does off the pitch,but until then it’s pretty clear what’s distracting him.he’s most welcome to leave this sport and join another line like fashion or something,if that’s where his interests lie.Emery needs to have a serious chat with him,it’s not a priority that we need a replacement there but the talent’s going wasted.

    Fatmop – It is worrying indeed about what we can and cannot afford.That clown kronke has bought the reamining shares by taking up a loan and he’s repaying that using the club’s finances.we’ve already seen proof where we are getting rid of our best players,and not even spending.We’ve fallen so low that apparently every department at the club has been mailed to save money wherever we can.
    For me it’s just the standard set at this club,and now it’s not even top four.
    In terms of priority,It’s pretty clear our priority is atleast two wingers.Say even if we do by some miracle sign dembele,the fans would certainly be so contempt and suddenly everything is alright.Nope,we need two wingers.Dembele would do,but we need another who can strike fear into defences someone with pace and power.It’s astonishing that we aren’t going in for zaha.i’d take Pepe too.But we need to make it happen.While we’re at it we should get rid of the wages of ozil and miki as well.
    Too much work to do at this club,which this club will simply ignore to do yet again.

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