How should the club manage the thirty games left?

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    captkirk
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    Pep and pundits as well as Liverpool players have stressed the fact that there are sixty points to play for and I’m sure Klopp as a successful manager with a proven track record will not leave anything to chance in the coming months. IMO here is a list of factors which will be crucial if we are to win the PL this season.

    1.Players should have 100% focus on the league and forget about individual awards such as African player of the year or golden boots.
    2. The squad should be able to deliver when called upon and players such as Gomez, Keita, Shaqiri and Ox will likely decide by their performance when they are called upon whether the title comes to Anfield.
    3.Play without pressure. This two decades wait for a PL win was a weight on the shoulders of Carra and Gerrard and I trust Klopp to lift that weight on our current crop of players. It’s refreshing to see that Trent a local boy seems to play without any kind of burden on his shoulders.

    Anything else I have missed?

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    Razor
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    Actually it’s 90 points but that isn’t important..

    So basically what you’re saying is that it’s up to the individuals in the squad yes?
    There are several other things I would add.
    1. Our record against the top 6 needs to improve dramatically especially with 3 of them doing poorly and the 4th unable to defend despite their attacking prowess. We need to be thinking about beating City both Home and Away rather than this 4 points rubbish being floated around.

    2. Our first 11 has to stay injury free.

    3. We need to regain our game management which was arguably our the best thing about the team last season. Alisson + the increased fitness over time should fix this issue.

    4. Everyone and I mean EVERYONE has to have a go at City RIGHT NOW when their defense is in the shit. They were ripping everyone apart last season until they ran out of legs trying to chase a quadruple. This loss in momentum is crucial for us and opportunities like this don’t come often.

    5. We have shown this season that we get complacent and are too casual at times. While we are European Champions, no player has the right to be arrogant about it. You get on and keep going and even when you’ve won everything you still keep striving to be better.

    6. Another forward signing to cover Firmino. If he’s out the drop off is massive. I have previously touted Hwang Hee-Chan from Salzburg as an ideal player to fit this role. He has been nothing short of sublime this season and while Haaland gets all the credit, this guy is the real quality. Either that or pay the Spuds 70mil for Son and play a 4-2-3-1 more frequently, but the former could very well be the next Son.

    #1790253

    NotoriousBingo
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    its pretty basic mate… just keep on winning… We lost one game in the league last season if we can improve on that we got the title, we got 101 points from the last 38 games… We just have to keep doing what we are doing, one game at a time, every game a final.

    #1790254
    Red Herring
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    captkirk>> Well, maybe you’ve missed the fact that it is actually three decades wait ! Who would have believed it at the time? Or did you mean that it was circa two decades wait for Carra and Gerrard when they were in a team with any sort of realistic chance of a PL win?

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    gingerlfc
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    Klopp and his team will probably manage the remaining games like they have the previous 18mths or so….by breaking the season down into blocks of games.
    The 3rd block of games is about to begin with some big games to play before the next international break in Nov.

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    Red Herring
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    Razor>> Didn’t quite understand how your comment of ‘Either that or pay the Spuds 70mil for Son’ extrapolated to ‘and play a 4-2-3-1 more frequently’. Who would be the players in the 2-3-1 ? Does this include Son (who was only being bought as cover for Bobby) ?

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Got to get more than one point off City this season. It ultimately cost us the title. Just hung on at the Etihad (following Bobby’s equalizer) and we’d had done the double.

    Also, you mentioned our second string and those boys (Keita, Ox, Origi, Shaqiri, Gomez and even Lallana) must stay fit and contribute. Tough ask for the preferred starting XI to do it for 38 games.

    So, don’t let City beat us in either game (4 points was enough for City!) and our back up be ready to come in and deliver.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Red, btw, I’d love Son at Anfield. Belting player.

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    Razor
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    Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Milner to rotate in the “2” Firmino, Salah, Mane and Son can rotate in the 3-1.. If we need to rest someone we would have a TOP class player and can still keep the 4-3-3. I’m not sure what part of that wasn’t obvious.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Razor, I think if Klopp doesn’t see a contribution from our reserve mids/attackers by Jan he could be tempted to hit the transfer market. Personally, it wouldn’t hurt. We need a full squad helping. That’s why City have had the success they’ve had (helped by a few bob of course!).

    #1790322

    NotoriousBingo
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    Rob even if our reserves do not start contributing directly on the field I doubt that Klopp will hit the transfer market, we are in good form at the moment and half the reason behind that is our reserves, they keep pressure on our first eleven. As long as they maintain that I highly doubt Klopp will buy a new player.
    I don’t see any of our reserves complaining about lack of game time, they might feel frustrated but their focus is there, they know they need to make their mark when they finally get gametime… Same would happen with Son…

    I can see Klopp focusing on getting 2-3 U21-U23 players next summer, the best prospects out there, the very best… I don’t see much happening until then… How could anyone possible justify a spending spree when we are unbeaten in the league…?

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    j c
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    Origi seems to be playing well every time he’s made an appearance so far this season.
    We’re not really losing a lot of quality when he comes in. There’s no guarantee a new signing would give us better backup than what Origi is bringing to the table. And we all know what his contribution meant to us last season.

    I’m not seeing a massive need to dip into the transfer market. Unless it’s for Mbappe or Jadon Sancho of course!

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    Razor
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    I like Div. I think he’s improved a lot this season on the left wing and he has more confidence. The issue is, we haven’t looked anywhere near as good going forward without Firmino.

    Especially that Super Cup game. He came on and straight off the bat we scored because of him and looked a far bigger threat. Against Newcastle I think, he came on and got MOTM when we were looking flat before. Even in other games when he’s taken off, we just don’t look the same going forward.

    Rob that’s exactly my concern. Especially Shaqiri who just can’t seem to get a game because of injury and preference for other players. Who else do we have other than Div? Lallana? No thanks. Elliot/Brewster? As ginger says they won’t make the match day squad most weeks. Personally I don’t see how Shaqiri would have done worse than Salah in some games but right now it’s all Div and he can’t fill the Firmino void.

    The 4-2-3-1 is what Klopp’s Dortmund used to play and we’ve looked good when we’ve switched to it in certain games. While no signing is a guaranteed success they aren’t a guaranteed failure either and someone like Son would, on paper at least, be a huge upgrade to what we have now. I don’t see any need for our current midfielders to be replaced for a #10 or whatever that argument was but I do see the need for someone to cover Firmino and a top class signing who can come in and impact and at the same time fill in at the same level is highly valuable to us. We’re not just going for the league here but the CL as well. That said, Bingo you’re probably right about us waiting till the summer to do anything and I’d be fine with that too if that’s what the manager wishes.

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    AK
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    Most important thing in my mind is how we react to dropping points.

    #1790371

    gingerlfc
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    That’ll be down to individual fans because the team has reacted well previously.
    Could probably name right now which fans will “lose their shit”.

    #1790376

    kopite
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    Just win 28 of them. 😊

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    Razor
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    Ginger I believe he was referring to how the team would react to dropping points specifically. In any case, losing your shit to dropping points is a sign of passion in my book and I’m well aware I’m one of these people. Everyone has different ways of supporting the club.

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    Red Herring
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    Yes, Son has got his plus points of which pace is his prime attribute; but whilst we continue to play the 4-3-3 which is currently working so well, then he just doesn’t make the starting XI for me. I don’t believe that he couldn’t do what is required from the midfield 3 and he’s not going to displace any of the forward 3. i.e. he’d be a very expensive cover player for a forward 3 that (not wishing to tempt fate) are fairly injury-resistant. Think I could find better causes to blow the, reported, 70 million on…..like our bang ‘average’ midfield maybe!

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    Red Herring
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    sorry: * I don’t believe that he COULD do….

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    Razor
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    So for 70mil who would you get in the bang average midfield then?

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