October 27, 2015 at 3:47 am #682750
We’ve seen individuals praising Jose Mourinho for his mind games ability, even better every statement Jose made was regarded as having the intent to implement mind games to others or for the benefit of the team. How’s Jose Mourinho mind games recently?
What really happened is that every statement he made towards the media is for the benefit of himself, to have the spotlight on him when things are going right, but when things go wrong, it’s clear to see that he has lost it, blaming everything else other than himself, such as blaming his own team’s doctor and worst still he even blames the media for the fiasco and didn’t even care to show up in the post match conference.
Conclusion, Jose Mourinho is not a genius at mind games, he’s just a narcissisist who’s loving the spotlight only when things are going right. Similar to Britney Spears, loving the attention when he needs them but when things go wrong, starts being irritated by the media coverage, and even losing it in public, didn’t hesitate to ridicule himself as well. Everything right is about him, everything wrong is not because of him.October 27, 2015 at 6:30 am #682765
Spot on. I have been saying it for ages, that Jose is not a psychological genius and his comments are purely emotional outbursts. He cant even control himself, let alone other people. Those who who used to say ‘everything Jose does and says is calculated’ are in the same group as those who predicted the Y2K bug – both groups must look back and wonder what they were thinking, and how spectacularly wrong they got it.
I would love it if some of those Chelsea fans were to step forward, and say they used to think Jose was the psychological genius and master manipulator. I know 999 was one, and a few others.
I still look back and wonder how anyone could be so deluded, to think Jose Mourinho was a psychological genius in a literal sense. Yes literal – they actually genuinely believed it to be the case.
Truth is however, Jose’s comments are reactionary and spontaneous prompted by things not going his way. They are absolutely not a designed plan to manipulate.October 27, 2015 at 8:19 am #682834
Arsenal fans talking about Chelsea and mourinho again imagine our shock?!
I do think a lot of mourinhos comments are intended to manipulate but a lot of them are reactionary too. Problem is neither the reactionary comments nor the manipulative comments are working this season and have often been contradictory.
Is he a genius with his comments?! No, probably not, but it’s hard to deny that his comments in previous years have not had a positive effect on the team. Even now when the team is playing so badly the majority of the comments are about him and not about the players.
Is he one of the best at manipulating and motivating others in what he says in his interviews etc? Apart from 10 games this year he’s been at the top of the game in 4 different countries so you’d be fool to say otherwise.October 27, 2015 at 8:35 am #682855
Jay – I am not sure you guys have a leg to stand on when it comes to them being obsessed with you. Mourihno’s current obsession with Wenger is borderline insanity, his voyeur comment re Wenger seem to have turned full circle.October 27, 2015 at 8:57 am #682894
Thanks for clearing that up for us pal and thanks for providing possibly the most bizarre comparison in Teamtalk history, Jose Mourinho and Britney Spears. Surely you can do better than that? You haven’t even put much effort into explaining your comparison, just thrown it out there with the tenuous link to being irritated by the media.October 27, 2015 at 4:55 pm #683542
Jay, it’s rather boring to see Chelsea fans on the hideout here, so I took the initiative to comment about Jose.October 27, 2015 at 4:56 pm #683545
Tim Vick, after 10 games, surely there’s enough drama to prove my point, or should I mention of his meltdown in Spain as well?October 27, 2015 at 6:27 pm #683626
Arsenal fc I’ve no idea what the below means.
“Jay, it’s rather boring to see Chelsea fans on the hideout here, so I took the initiative to comment about Jose.”
Can you explain?October 27, 2015 at 6:53 pm #683647
I don’t know whether Mourinho’s mind games have worked or not but something seems to have worked otherwise he wouldn’t have won 8 League titles in 4 different countries, or 7 domestic Cups in 4 different countries, or 2 Champions League trophies with two different clubs plus the UEFA Cup!October 28, 2015 at 5:13 am #683929
Jay, it means that your fellow fans tends to show up when Chelsea are winning but on the hideout when they’re losing. Some time ago, we’ve seen how Chelsea fans boast on Jose day in day out, so it’s rather discouraging to see them gone missing when Chelsea are not doing well.October 28, 2015 at 5:15 am #683932
nine, or instead of assuming that it was because of mind games, maybe, just maybe it’s because of Roman’s spending spree over the years?October 28, 2015 at 6:04 am #683935
Its simple. Jose is not a master manipulator, nor a psychological genius.
A football manager wins football games, and he is a psychological genius? Its like saying a dentist is a good pilot because he can fill in crowns. Or a fireman is a good teacher because he can put out fires. Whats the correlation between being a football manager and psychological genius?
Win a football match…..psychological genius
Win a tennis match……poetic genius
Win a rugby match……..mathematical genius
Win a Cricket match……literature genius
There not really any correlation, is there………October 28, 2015 at 6:09 am #683938
What type ‘genius’ is Rodger Federer? Perhaps just a very good tennis player.
Maybe Jose is not the psychological genius Chelsea fans think he is.
Dont try and walk it back Chelsea fans, you said it.October 28, 2015 at 8:12 am #684058
Arsenal fc chelsea fans go missing? haha are you sure?
On the main page there’s probably been more chelsea posters over the last few weeks than any other club. On the individual pages only liverpool pages have more posts. That your definition of going missing?
Is a better description of going missing when arsenal got beat first game of the season and literally there was not an arsenal poster in sight for nearly a week? that is not an exaggeration either.October 28, 2015 at 8:16 am #684073
Wilsonian of course there’s a correlation between winning a football match and psychology. Man management and motivation not part of the game? Do they not involve psychology?
The standard of arsenal posters continues to amaze!! Come on there must be one decent one out there….October 28, 2015 at 8:17 am #684079
Arsenal FC, 18 trophies across 4 different clubs in 4 different countries. As influential and as rich as Abramovich might be it doesn’t stretch to 4 different clubs in 4 different countries mate!
Jose has clearly got his faults and is currently suffering the worst moment of his managerial career but even his biggest detractors recognise that he is one of the best Managers and most successful Managers currently managing with only Guardiola coming close in respect of trophies won.
Only the foolish would try and claim anything different!October 28, 2015 at 8:41 am #684115
Why do people bang on about Team A fans going missing when their team is not doing well. I have been seeing this comment for 10 years. It is human nature, when your team has a bad result you don’t want to be reading it over and over again. When you win on a Saturday you watch MOTD when you lose you don’t, yes there will still be posters on here but the amount and frequency will drop, and that is the same for every set of fans on the boards. No one set of football fans has any set traits, as the team you support doesn’t define your life, so for example Arsenal fans, when you say typical Chelsea fan, you do realise that you are grouping yourself with all the other Arsenal fans by using that logic, even the most idiotic and moronic fans, you are making yourself one and the same.October 28, 2015 at 8:58 am #684136
Counting trophies are not a good definition of how successful a manager is. Jose spent 3 year at Real Madrid and won La Liga once. That sounds about right, manage Real Madrid for 3 years – you will likely win the league at least once. Right now, the league titles Pep is racking up at Bayern count for very little. Fact it, whoever is the Bayern manager is going to be adding to their personal honors roll.
Arsene Wenger could have easily joined the merry go around of managing Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich ect – as those all clubs at some stage offered him the position of manager. However, he chose to stay at Arsenal and build something.
I think Jose goes to bed at night counting the trophies he has won, and no doubt he wants to manage PSG in the future – which is another club that offers a ‘free trophy’ for whoever manages them.
There are other managers like to take on projects. Like Hiddink. Who could manage any club he wanted too. But takes on jobs with the likes of Australia, Turkey, Russia, South Korea, Real Betis.
All this emphasis on trophies is very simple minded. The best manager on the planet right now if Simione. No one in their wildest dreams thought the Real Madrid/Barcelona duopoly could be broken, yet he went and did it, and almost won the CL as well.
Klopp is another top manager, who in Borussia Dortmund and Liverpool hasnt had clubs that win trophies every year, but like Simione at Atletico, beat Bayern one year, and almost won the CL with Dortmund.
If Tony Pulis manages Bayern – he is going to win the Bundesliga. If Allardyce manages PSG – he is going to win the French league.
Some managerial achievements do not involve trophies. And trophies are not the sole measure, from which to judge managers.October 28, 2015 at 9:12 am #684145
Yet Mourinho won the European Cup at Inter for the first time since 1965 , the League title at Chelsea for the first time in 50 years and led Porto to a CL win overcoming teams with much much bigger budgets than Porto’s and won La Liga at Real Madrid breaking a Barcelona domination of La Liga and finishing above a club who many rated at that time the best team in the history of club football.
Of course Football Managers are judged by more than just success but success still remains the most important criteria because at the end of the day that is what Managers stand or fall by and 18 major trophies across 4 different clubs in 4 different countries takes some beating!October 28, 2015 at 9:21 am #684175
“first League title at Chelsea for the first time in 50 years”
You make it sound like a rags to riches story. Truth is however, is spend heavily on a scale of more than 5-1 than his nearest rivals.
No doubt Jose wants the PSG job – its easy and more down his alley.
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