IS School Girl wants to return to UK

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    j c
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    There’s already plenty IS fighters who’ve come back on our streets. This story gets attention because it’s a young girl.
    Wouldn’t be surprised if she comes back, sponges off welfare, then sells some sanitised version of her story to the press, where she makes herself out to be the real victim.

    What about all the innocent people being killed, raped and enslaved around the world by IS?
    They’re the real victims, and we do them a disservice by dealing with the perpetrators of these crimes so leniently.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    well said JC

    #1726919

    nine nine nine
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    Ditto Stevo.

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    nine nine nine
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    Sajid Javid has warned he “will not hesitate” to prevent the return of Britons who travelled to join so-called Islamic State as debate flared over what should happen to runaway schoolgirl Shamima Begum.

    The home secretary said those who left the UK to join IS were “full of hate for our country”, while the Security Minister, Ben Wallace, warned that runaways who now want to come back must realise that “actions have consequences”.

    #1726933

    mufc
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    She’ll get her case taken to the European Courts then get some whopping big payout for “stress caused by the British Government blah blah cobblers”

    #1728381
    AshCFC
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    She’ll also write a book (also available in Arabic), and appear on daytime TV.

    Who knows, she might eventually get invited to appear on a spin-off of Ant & Dec’s famous Aussie game show.. ‘I’m a UK citizen, get me outta here!’

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    MacGuffin
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    There will doubtless be offers which raises the interesting question about media social responsibility in offering huge payments to people who have …. let’s say transgressed.

    #1728439
    MacGuffin
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    Can’t see the courts upholding the decision because the government cannot make a person stateless . …

    As Begum was born in the UK, she was presumably not naturalised as British, so the 2014 amendment would not seem to apply to her. In her case, the home secretary has to establish that she has another actual nationality in place.

    Whether or not her heritage confers Bangladeshi nationality on her depends on Bangladeshi nationality law. On February 20, Bangladesh issued a statement saying Begum did not have Bangladeshi nationality and would not be allowed into Bangladesh.

    Which raises the question howcome the government doesn’t know the law.

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    AshCFC
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    The case of Hoda Muthana (American girl in a similar predicament to Begum) is interesting. This girl presents herself as a more sympathetic character.

    One aspect of the motivations I’d recently discussed with my wife with regards what makes some young Muslims attracted to the whole ISIS thing is how the ISIS life in Syria may seem to be ‘exciting’ when compared to the possibly very strict upbringing many Muslim kids are subject to.

    Muthana says her family in Alabama were deeply conservative and placed restrictions on her movements and interactions, factors she claims contributed to her radicalisation. ‘You want to go out with your friends and I didn’t get any of that. I turned to my religion and went in too hard. I was self-taught and thought whatever I read, it was right.’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/17/us-woman-hoda-muthana-deeply-regrets-joining-isis-and-wants-return-home

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    nine nine nine
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    Bit naieve of Javid really why would Bangladesh want her.

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