January transfer window

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  • #1812529

    happyhurling
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    Roy – When that time comes mate then you can say it’s a badly run club, not when it’s still the richest club in the fucking world! Obviously no one is having a good time right now and the football side is a shit show but the club is still run in a fantastic way from a commercial perspective.

    Let’s just stick to what the actual problem is shall we? Half of those players just aren’t good enough. So there’s 2 options isn’t there 1) we sack Ole and start the whole process again with a new manager which there’s absolutely no guarantee will make us better.
    2) we stick with Ole and see where he can take this team next season and make a decision in the summer of 2021.

    #1812537
    roygbiv
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    Happy, do you really believe what you’re saying or are you simply fishing? Ok, you want to focus on the financial side, which is in good health (still) but I prefer to focus on the FOOTBALL side, where those in charge are guilty of one ginormous fuck-up after the other.

    #1812541

    Blacky
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    @happy – How can a club that pays Alexis Sanchez nearly 500k per week, the worst GK in the league 350k per week, spends 80m on Maguire, pays Lardy Luke 200k per week and hands out new deals to the likes of Jones, Lindelof, Mata, Pereira and Young be in any way described as “well run”?. It’s a complete shambles from the very top to the very bottom mate, simple as that.

    #1812804
    redblood
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    where those in charge are guilty of one ginormous fuck-up after the other. Lol @roy,great word ginormous.

    #1812805
    redblood
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    His heart is in the right place, but his head sometimes gets firmly wedged between his arse cheeks!😂😂 Hehehehe!

    #1812823

    jm1502
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    Not sure what this lad Gedson Fernandes that we’ve been linked with is like, but no doubt he’ll be another one that ‘gets away’.

    #1812827
    roygbiv
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    Solskjaer gets a free pass as a club legend but he’s simply not qualified and never has been. He’s dug an almighty hole for himself by trying to be everyone’s friend and has created an atmosphere where losing is acceptable. Mourinho was/is an egotistical prick who everybody got fed up with but there has to be some middle ground.

    The players feared Fergie but they also respected him AND were willing to run through a brick wall for him. The only thing this lot would go through for Ole is an instagram filter. They’re definitely not free of blame but Ole is regrettably not the right man to reverse the trend and neither are any of his backroom staff. It was fun for a few weeks but we’re a laughing stock now and nothing will change until Solskjaer & his staff, Woodward and the majority of the players have found new jobs far, far away from Old Trafford.

    #1812870

    happyhurling
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    Roy – Pochettino would not change that though would he? And the question is, if we got Pochettino in, how long would he get before we’d be asking for him to be sacked as well? A year? 2 years?

    #1812903
    roygbiv
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    Happy, sacking a manager is not something I like to advocate but it’s just painfully clear that Ole is out of his depth. I didn’t mention Pochettino but I still think he would do a better job despite walking into a rat infested shithole.

    Anyway, you’ve started contradicting yourself yet again so I’m not going to bother. You’re perfectly capable of disagreeing with yourself by yourself and I seem to recall you screaming for Ole to be sacked, calling everyone shit but now you say we’re a well run club, only we’re not because there isn’t a manager who could put things right.

    I would actually have no problem with you saying we were “good to go” as that would just be your opinion but I simply don’t think you have an opinion because they seem to constantly change without any reason or logic.

    #1812948

    Blacky
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    @happy – You just cannot keep saying that there is nobody else out there who could in any way improve on the job that Ole is currently doing, that’s just complete hogwash mate. You know full well that he is out of his depth and is totally incapable of doing this job to any sort of an acceptable level in the long term, you’ve intimated as much on several occasions.

    To keep him on beyond the summer and to give him a other big wedge to waste without a very unlikely dramatic improvement between now and the end of the season would be total insanity, simple as that.

    #1812953

    jm1502
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    Getting back to the spirit of the thread, transfers, it’s clear that with Pogba and McTominay both out long term, if not indefinitely in Pogba’s case, we need two new midfielders. Given that I just don’t see these halfwits sacking Solskjaer, it means he’ll be deciding who we bring in. Longstaff’s a definite no for me, he’s just another willing plod donkey. I like Grealish but he’s no pace and not athletic enough, so not for me. Fernandes of Benfica? Looks a good player from the little I’ve seen but will he suit the PL? Maddison’s a good player but would cost 80 mill and is worth nowhere near that – we should have picked him up when he was at Norwich. And talking of Norwich, I mentioned the lad Cantwell some time ago, far cheaper than Maddison but is he good enough? Not sure. In any event, we need a playmaker for sure, and I’d also be looking for an enforcer, maybe the lad at Lille. But they’ve got to be young, quick, athletic and hungry. We need to start thinking about the long term, not this season or the next. And I’d certainly be in the frame for Timo Werner up front.

    #1812964

    yorkshireman200
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    I wouldn’t trust the shower of shit running this club to sign Messi on a free if he was offered to us! He’d probably be judged too small. As for Ole, he is clearly out of his depth but I’m surprised those other 2 brass monkey’s sat next to him every week aren’t getting a lot more stick on here given the total lack of structure or style being produced on the pitch? The absence of emotion, passion and intensity is staggering, no wonder the players look like they can’t be arsed half the time!

    #1812967
    killyboye
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    West Ham are looking at getting Gabriel Barbosa for £20m, we should be all over that. He’s not necessarily a hard worker but he’s a game changer, he’ll score goals

    #1812976

    hookeddevil
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    I find it alarming that we’re 3 days into the winter window and haven’t signed anyone. By all accounts there were deals for a forward and midfielders being worked on over the summer. We are in a desperate position regarding the need for midfielders, it’s negligent of the powers that be to not have already addressed this issue and signed at least one top class midfielder – there are enough with release clauses. What on earth do they do behind the scenes between August and January?

    #1812977

    Blacky
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    @Yorkshire – You’re right about those chinless wonders sat on the bench next to Ole mate. I’ll bet their training sessions are a right bag of laughs!

    #1813014

    happyhurling
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    Blacky – Of course there are better managers out there, Ole isn’t the best manager in the world! But that’s not the point. When we sacked Jose we made the decision to try something different, an ex player who knew the values and traditions of the club. (Something Jose didn’t). Someone who could reunite the fans, the players and the club. And he did that at the beginning with some great attacking football and broke records for away wins etc. Everyone was happy. (Even you!)

    In the summer he tried to get rid of as many players who he thought didn’t fit the values of the club as possible. This left the squad quite thin and he’s promoted several youth players to give them a chance. The result is a really young, inexperienced squad that is in the early stages of its development and lacks balance. So we get some really good results and performances and then some truly fucking awful ones. After the good wins i’m always happy and can sort of see what Ole is trying to do, after the bad results i’m fucked off just like the rest of the fan base.

    Surely the process warrants another clear out of shite in the summer. Namely Young, Mata, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Matic and maybe Shaw. Another lot of investment, sticking to the plan that Ole and the board have set out, and see where they get to next season? I can’t see the sense in sacking Ole now (there’s actually no point in hiring him if we do that) and bringing in another manager (who’s probably a better manager agreed) to rip everything up and start the process all over again. If we do that i’m convinced that the next manager will just suffer exactly the same fate. He’ll want to get rid of certain players and bring in his own and the results will be shit in the meantime. And people like you will be calling for the next manager to be sacked within a year.

    Then what…?

    #1813024

    N1xer
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    A couple of comments Happy. That summary is painting things with very broad strokes to say the least. The inditement of Ole’s reign is that we have not performed and lost to teams that have far inferior squads to ours regardless of the rebuild. The bad performances have been characterised by a lack of effort or interest by the players. They have even looked disinterested in some games and showed a shocking attitude. That is a reflection of the management no matter how you try and dress it up.

    Another thing is the tactics. Or lack off. I cannot see a style of play developing. The other night it was crazy to see Ole sitting on his arse doing fuck all when we were getting ripped apart. Why did it take him until half time to make the simple change of pushing the fullbacks 30 yards up the pitch? And why do our fullbacks sit back so much anyway?

    Sorry mate but i could go on and on about the detail of the problems. You are looking at things from a far too simplistic perspective and ignoring a lot of shit that falls at the managers door.

    #1813039

    jm1502
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    I’ve been banging on about those two clueless fuckers for some time yorkshire and you can throw that prick Phelan into the same pot. Carrick looks as boring on the sidelines as he was on the pitch.

    #1813058

    Blacky
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    @happy – The massive difference here is that I said having him as an interim boss was a good enough call at that time because we were in crisis and needed a familiar and popular face to get the fans back onside and smiling again, but as soon as the narrative changed to giving him the job full time I knew 100% it was going to prove to be a horrendous call, and so it has.

    Ole is plain clueless, out of his depth and completely unqualified in terms of experience as a manager, coaching, tactically or any other essential skillset that you care to mention. I have absolutely zero faith in his ability to identify the right players to buy (e.g. Maguire) or the shite ones to get rid of either, just one look at the useless fuckers who have been given new contracts since he got the job tells you that.

    Fact is, at least 90% of our fans already know he will never be up to doing this job successfully, and the other 10% are just living in a state of denial, simple as that.

    #1813093

    N1xer
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    This Longstaff chat is a fucking worry. Doesn’t seem to be going away.

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