January 14, 2020 at 1:14 pm #1816385
Was thinking the same thing myself mate, even a bench warmer costs 50m and 150k per week in this crazy market, plus the stadium is in need of massive investment.Surely they have squeezed every single pip they can squeeze out of the Manchester United ‘lemon’ by now?, so the final solution is one last big pay off and fuck off into the gimp sunset, here’s hoping!January 14, 2020 at 1:32 pm #1816393
this talks about the changing finances…January 14, 2020 at 2:02 pm #1816403January 14, 2020 at 2:51 pm #1816429January 14, 2020 at 3:06 pm #1816434
@yorkshireman & blacky. I hate to be a cynical (30 year) old fart but I strongly doubt the Glazers are about to sell without a handsome ROI on what the late Malcolm told them. I suspect Ed has been cooking the books and telling them that the brand is undervalued because of potential revenue streams that are yet to be realized. I know this because I do it to my superiors when the dreaded financial year end comes around – hehehe.
Fact is since Malcolm passed away the management of the football club has deteriorated exponentially – I venture to speculate that Avram and co think they are sitting on the best asset in world football while the market disagrees.
Simply put, I think the Glazers would value the club much higher than a potential buyer would on the basis of potential commercial partnerships “in the pipeline” while ignoring the massive investment required in staff (playing and backroom) and infrastructure (stadium, training ground, and scouting networks) to put us back in the top tier of world football.January 14, 2020 at 4:14 pm #1816455
Hatters, I doubt these scumbags are that stupid and I would guess their ROI is already far higher than they ever dreamed of especially as they invested virtually nothing of their own money! As for dear old Malcolm, I suspect he new as much about running a football club as that useless twat Wudturd. The real decline started when Fergie retired and Wudturd took over and started using his famous Disney world sales pitch.January 14, 2020 at 4:43 pm #1816460
@batters- I know it’s hard to let ourselves get too excited about the imminent demise of the hated gimp’s regime mate, but with the prospect of ever dwindling sponsorship revenue streams, the lack of ECL money over a sustained period because the playing squad is so bad, a dilapidated stadium, plus the ridiculous amounts of money that even pretty shite players can command these days (e.g. Maguire) I reckon we must be as close as we’ve ever been to being rid of the twats once and for all.
That doesn’t mean to say that it’s going to happen of course, it will need someone coming up with the thick end of 3 billion to get shot of these horrible bastards either way, simple as that.January 14, 2020 at 4:44 pm #1816461
*batters*😂😂😂😂January 14, 2020 at 5:34 pm #1816473
@blacky – I am battered mate hehehehe!
In any case, my point to you and yorkshireman is that I believe it won’t be a simple negotiation for them to sell (if they are even open to the discussion). Reasons being:
– Much like Mike Ashley with Newcastle, removing an asset of this value from your personal balance sheet is always a questionable move for the Glazers.
– The argument that Manchester United can further its reach and revenue streams in the future with the still growing popularity of football worldwide is real and quantifiable to an extent by any fairly competent sales professional (Ed Woodward).
– TV deals continue to grow exponentially.
– They don’t need to sell with their generational wealth and the financial success of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers amongst their other investments.
Tell me if you think I am wrong fellas.January 14, 2020 at 6:47 pm #1816479
@hatters – Just so long as you’ve not been battered around the ring mate!😳😳😂😂
I’m not saying that the gimps have to sell, but I do think they must be wondering if they have raped the Golden Goose for as much as they can without having to make a massive financial commitment in order for them to continue to do so.
Who knows how future TV deals will go, but when you see the likes of SKY pulling out of televising the Champions League and La Liga for purely financial reasons as they did a couple of seasons ago, then it certainly makes you wonder how much more TV revenue is actually out there to be found.
As I said, the Champions League cash is massive and is no longer a given every year to say the least, so that will also impact the other big sponsorship deals the club can negotiate now that we can no longer claim to be one of Europe’s elite teams.
Fuck knows in the end really mate, I just want them gone!January 14, 2020 at 7:23 pm #1816485
I can only speak for myself but I reached saturation point a couple of years ago. I rarely even watch MOTD anymore and the amount of options to watch (and pay for) live footy is really pissing me off. As for the Glazers wealth, the Bucs are even worse than us and have been for years. Their shopping malls were in trouble a few years back and they need to take their 10m a year out of United so I’m not sure how wealthy they really are? Like most Yanks, they probably live off debt. I’ve no idea if they will get to selling point but the more dogs abuse they and Wudturd get at OT the better just to help them on their way!January 14, 2020 at 8:06 pm #1816490
@blacky. I haven’t thrown a punch in at least a decade so I reckon I would be battered around the ring hehehe – my only enemies are dumbbells and lunges. You are justified with your statements around the TV deals and like you, I hope the decreased Adidas money and lack of Champions League money will make the Glazers think twice. That being said I don’t hold much hope on the Glazers running for the hills.
@yorkshireman – I think that you underestimate the recent success (relative to their past) of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and I also think the Glazers are a lot more wealthy than you estimate them to be. Fair enough, they do use debt facilities to finance their cashflows like all yanks but they continue to sit on massive revenue streams and most definitely siphon whatever they can to tax havens.January 14, 2020 at 9:08 pm #1816506
Hahahaha…dont think Blacky was talking about a boxing ring @hatters mate. All banter aside, i cant see the Glazers going anywhere anytime soon. The scary part is that we need at least another £500M spending on the squad and facilities over the next couple of years. Fuck knows where we are getting that from considering we are haggling over £10M on the Fernandes deal.January 14, 2020 at 9:11 pm #1816509January 15, 2020 at 7:11 am #1816537
Loads of paper chat over the Fernandes deal today. Apparently Sporting want Rojo in part exchange but are haggling over his wages so we’d rather sell to Fenerbache instead and offer Sporting another player.
Woodward in France for Boubakary Soumare according to one of the papers too.January 15, 2020 at 7:25 am #1816541
Sympathy for the DevilsParticipant
The Glazers are not going to sell the club and won’t invest heavily in players – anyone thinking otherwise is doing so more due to hope than logic unfortunately.
These guys absolutely battered the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and ruined the on-pitch side of things and the Glazers have and will continue to do the same,.
The day they sell the club is the day absolutely no one continues to go to the stadium, but merchandise and invest in official sponsors, which simply isn’t going to happen for at least another 20 or so years and even then it will only reduce slightly.January 15, 2020 at 7:33 am #1816542
Not sure what is going on with Fernandes. Hard to really believe it after last summers shenanigans. Feels like the new Gaitan. If he plays in the Lisbon Derby on Friday night i’ll have real doubts. If Sporting are so desperate for money why risk their prize asset in a heated local derby.January 15, 2020 at 11:14 am #1816618
Sympathy-Nobody can for surely know that,pal.Everything & everyone has a price,United too.January 15, 2020 at 11:44 am #1816632
@n1xer, an article here on Teamtalk said that they are desperate for him to play the derby and then move as they so desperately need him to do well against Benfica so who knowsJanuary 15, 2020 at 2:57 pm #1816698
@Killy-If we want the player badly enough, he is desperate to make the move and sporting badly need the coin, then why would they risk playing him? Young hasn’t played the last two games because of chat he is leaving. Let’s see what happens with Matic tonight after all this AC Milan chat.
Whatever way you look at it we are a joke at getting transfers done. Always long and drawn out affairs. Totally get this can happen from time to time but with us its every fucking signing. And we end up paying top whack anyway. Look at the summer, the signings dragged on and in the end we paid £80M for Maguire and £55M for AWB. Not exactly bargains.
There is a lot of chat out there that we are looking to make loan signings. Genuinely think we have a cashflow issues with transfers. If Fernandes signs i’d expect two or three signings in the summer max at a cost of no more than £100M. I think we shot our bolt with the big expenditure under LvG and Mourinho and now we are going to pay for it. OT probably needs the best part of £250M spending on it to properly modernise the place. No way we have that and another £400M to spend on transfers over the next few seasons.
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