Karius – In For Good?

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Karius starting tomorrow and one wonders whether it’s the beginning of the end for Mignolet. Simon has had a good season so far but, and this may just be me, he’s looked a tad pensive, knowing full well, that as soon as Karius is fit, he’s likely playing second fiddle. Lack of total commandment of his box and distribution will be Migs’ downfall, two areas of his game that have needed improvement over the years and regrettably haven’t developed to the level required to be a top Premiership keeper. Klopp wants the full package. He comes from a country that consistently produces excellent keepers and I believe that Tuesday could, could be the start of a new dynasty between the sticks for us.

    #1230696
    gabara
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    Mignolet’s distribution is going to cost him sooner or later. At one point in one of the games, Klopp was spotted screaming angrily as Mignolet dithered and eventually kicked the ball out of play. I am very impressed by how Courtois started a counterattack by throwing the ball over the halfway line in the league game against us. Unfortunately I have not seen Mignolet done that too often.

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    I wonder if there’s something of the Pep Hart scenario going on here too. Didn’t see the game, but James Pearce of the Echo tweeted pointing out how far forward Karius was on the pitch during our attacks. Klopp may want a similar ball player between the sticks.

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    MrMakaveli
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    Did anyone notice Karius’s failure to get to the corner last night? He went to punch it but wasn’t able to impose himself enough to bunch it clear and we were incredibly lucky not to concede.

    Now, just to be absolutely clear, I’m not judging him on this. I’m simply stating it for a “grass is always greener” kind of scenario that might be going on regards Migs.

    It might be a good game to give Karius his first start in the league though. if you put a gun to my head, I’d say that Migs will keep his place but I wouldn’t bet money on it.

    #1235514
    Bob-Notts
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    I wouldn’t drop Migs just yet. When he loses form fine but he looks to be playing well at the moment (a couple issues aside).

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    Be very interesting to see what Klopp does here. Does he risk unsettling the back five in favour of a better ball playing keeper and no doubt the heir in waiting to Mignolet? Normally you would think it wiser to introduce Karius more gradually…hence it will be telling of Klopp’s feelings on Mignolet if he does continue with Karius.

    #1235811
    Hightown hope
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    I’ll be very surprised if Migs doesn’t play on Saturday. I’m with Bob…he’s done little if anything wrong this season, and by dropping him it would just give out the wrong message in my eyes.

    I really think Migs has upped his game, and you could see when he got injured against Leicester, he would have had to have dragged off the pitch. He knew if he gets injured or loses form, he now has a valid No. 2 waiting to take his place.. It;s good to see some competition all over the pitch for a starting place. Probably the only position where there is no competition is at right back. When could we last say that?

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    threeps
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    I agree Migs shouldn’t be dropped as his form is good. But did anyone hear Darren Bent the day after the Derby game? He said that Karius was playing so far up field and has good feet it was like playing against 11 outfield players and that he was always an option if the Derby attackers tried to press. I suspect this is ultimately what Klopp wants from his keeper. So yes keep Migs in for now but if he doesn’t/cannot change his game to what Klopp wants I can see Karius taking over in the near future. As Mikus said, similar to the Pep/Hart scenario.

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    Narthraal
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    I just want Mignolet out of the team asap and Karius in!

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    j c
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    I think it will come down to who’s performing better in training and in the games.

    On that note, unless he has a crisis of confidence and performs really badly in the games Karius seems to have the edge. He might not get in immediately, but I’d expect him to be number 1 by xmas.

    #1236066

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    JC, I agree, I think it all comes down to how ready Karius is. I suspect Klopp wants him in as soon as possible regardless of Mignolet’s recent performances. Thinking more about it, given the nature of his injury and limited training I think he might be a few more weeks away before they risk throwing him into continuous action. But we’ll see…

    #1236501
    Razor
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    Personally I don’t think Karius is ready given the injury and the fact he’s coming into a physical league. Bravo was a disaster against united and if Karius could face the same if he’s thrown into the fray. Migs hasn’t done too much wrong. For the moment I’d keep him in the side.

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    Sean the sailor
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    razor, same here. I think mignolet deserves to keep his place as he hasnt done anything wrong. The rumour around the campfire is that karious will start though. Thats a huge call and its not one i would agree with.

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    Same as most I would keep Migs in for the moment, but like JC says I would expect Karius to be number one by christmas

    #1237233

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    Not the greatest lover of Mignolet but I haven’t seen him do anything that would make me wish him removed as yet, also disrupting a solid looking back 5 isn’t a great idea in my opinion. Karius is the future no doubt, but let’s wait till he’s played a few cup games or Migs screws up before changing for changing sake.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Pax, really? My money’s on Cliff Richard to be number one at Christmas.

    #1237560

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    Rob – He he, seriously though I think Karius is our long term keeper

    #1237821

    kopite
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    For too Long Migs has been allowed to get away with silly mistakes knowing he’ll still be selected due to the lack of a capable debuts. Karius will keep him on his toes and that is what we need.

    #1237932

    reds2riches
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    Klopp already knows everything he needs to know about mignolet. He has been in the premierleague for a long time and is still not a top keeper. Enter karius. Klopp knows him too. It will make no sense to keep mignolet until he starts making mistakes..which we all know he will. Thats why karius should go straight in.let him get accustomed to epl…make the mistakes he will make and become the keeper klopp sees. Remember de gea had to go through a bad season or two. With matip lovren looking increasingly assured..karius should have a good platform to stake his claim.

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    gingerlfc
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    Karius starts.
    Confirmed by the Echo.

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