Leno Or Ramsdale

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    the specialone
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    I’ve never seen a more over-rated goalkeeper in my Life than Leno(That is if someone still rates him).

    The other day,I heard Someone say if it weren’t for Leno we would have conceded so many more.What utter tripe to say that.
    I can promise you If I have 20 shots at me even I can make 5 0r 6 good saves.Some of the goals he conceded he shouldn’t to begin with espescially the long ranger from Rodri.
    This guy is such a weak goalkeeper it’s unbelievable.

    I know people will say he has a shit defence in front of him.True.But It doesn’t change how non communicative he is.A goalkeeper that has a top mentality communicated with his defence regularly and shouts at them when they’re conceding too many chances.In the 9 goals he has conceded this season in 3 games, there’s not one occasion I saw him get angry at his defenders.
    ZERO COMMAND,ZERO COMMUNICATION,ZERO LEADERSHIP.DECENT SHOTSTOPPER BUT THAT’S NOT ENOUGH.
    It’s no wonder the two trophies we have won in his time here have been with Martinez in goal because he is simply incapable to perform to the standard.Clearly no one rates him at the club otherwise they wouldn’t have splashed 30m on a back up keeper.

    From next game onwards I want to see Ramsdale.I want to give him a chance and see how he commands his defenders in the box.He’s a good shot stopper I know for sure but I’m hoping to see leadership from him.
    Either ways,Anything over Leno at this point.Wonder if we’ll be able to recoup the 20m spent on Leno?Not in my opinion.We’d be lucky if we see 10 % of that amount.

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    I would go for Ramsdale but it wont happen because of Arteta.

    He will not be playing in the league for the same reasons that Cedric and Chambers will be given chance after chance at RB and AMN will not get one. AMN might not be the answer as we actually need to buy one but it cant be any worse than what Cedric and Chambers has produced.

    Here in lies the problem with Arteta he has his favourites and If you are outside of that group you will never play.

    #1988330
    The Oracle
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    Hes moaned about the signing of Ramsdale for weeks now suddenly he reckons he’s brilliant and wants him in the team. What a muppet.

    #1988499
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    Muffler – I think he will start Ramsdale,I mean it’s about time or he’s just begging for the sack.It’s time to take a different approach because Leno has proved he’s not good enough.

    I usually defend Arteta espescially his performances but in the City game he was just indefensible for that game.I agree with the system he played but the players he picked?
    Jeez.What was he thinking.He played Xhaka as the deepest midfielder with ode and ESR just ahead.If his plan was to keep possession,he failed because we recorded the lowest ever possession in the PL era at 18%.You cannot out-possession city.It’s not even about the Midfield.I think everything is interrelated.Even the defsense is responsible because you need good ball playing defenders.Unfortunately,Cedric,chambers Holding and Kola are not that and crack under pressure.
    What’s laughable is three of those players are close to leaving,I don’t blame Arteta for everything because the inability to move these players on is on Edu.But how mismanaged is this squad?What else could he have done,Played Mari who was bullied last week?
    And yes,I would’ve played AMN over cedric and that’s after saying I’m not a big fan of his either but the result would’ve been the same.
    I think against City was his worst ever performance ever and he’ll admit that to you just as he has after the game in Post match.
    Listen,we were never going to win against City or even get a draw at the Etihad even if we had a fully fit squad because their squad is far far far superior.But it was about damage control, keeping the scoreline to as less as possible and maybe knick a goal and we failed utterly.
    No excuses, the first three games have not been good enough.But I look at it from another perspective, two out of three games were definite losses for me.Only the Brentford game I feel we shouldn’t have lost.Not enough a reason to ask for his sack.
    His next two games are the most important of his career, anything less than six points and I feel Sacking is a real possibility.

    Shifty – As usual,Being the Donkey of this forum You’re spouting the Usual nonsense.I never said Ramsdale was a bad keeper and neither did I ever say I don’t rate Partey.Just that I wouldn’t have wasted 30m on him because other areas are a priority.And that Partey albeit a great player is not worth those wages.
    But again You clearly Misinterpret my posts and love making things up.I can give you lessons in literature if you like.Either that or You’re just winding us up since you have nothing better to do clearly.

    #1988503

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    Well he only has Cedric, Chambers now since both Bellerin and AMN wants out as both have publicly said so.

    So well managed by Arteta indeed the fact he keeps on breaking every single bad record that is out there is no longer a feat its a habit he has.

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    Muffler, Arteta is history, he’s gone. He might make Christmas but it could be October international break. He’s utterly useless, you only have to watch the Man City game to realise non of the players knew what they were supposed to be doing. Tactically he is useless, he can’t motivate, he can’t organise, he can’t pick a competent team. What does he do in training. With regards to keepers had he woken up to the fact that Martinez was and is far superior we wouldn’t have this problem.

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    The keeper is the the least of our problems! Leno has saved more points than he has lost. Ramsdale seems like a nice lad but I have never seen anything to convince me that he is better than Leno and I doubt anyone on here has seen him enough to say he is better.

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    stev, Leno is average at best or Count Leno ( scared of crosses) as someone described him on another website.Some spectacular saves in his time here, but also numerous goals he has cost us by not being dominant in the air and palming shots into the path of players coming in, not away from the goal.Also, look how many times he is beaten at his near post. I’ve never liked him and his arrogance after his penalty shoot-out saves last season in the League Cup match v the Scousers when he said “I’ve always been told and consider I’ve been the No 1 at the club” so soon after handing Liverpool a win in the League game spoke volumes about the player. Also the despot Arteta wants his keepers to play from the back- this runt can’t! Get rid and Ramsdale already looks better than him, which isn’t saying much.

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    Stev- Leno was directly responsible for the two goals against Brentford.A game where we actually had a good chance to take a win.
    He was beaten at his near Post for the first and he was Haplessely Outmuscled by Brentford opposition from a Set piece.Both were Obvious errors.

    I don’t deny he can make some good saves, but so can most keepers who have been bought for 20m.The Problem with him is his lack of presence in the box and lack of command.

    At this Point of time,It’s not even a debate for me of who should start.If Arteta goes with Leno again,he’s just asking for the sack.
    I hope Leno takes it in a positive way and Improves from his obvious weaknesses.But for me if a Goalkeeper has to be told everytime to show Command and be Communicative,He was never a good enough Keeper to start with.Those attributes must come Naturally to a keeper.

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