Liverpool in talks with Klopp.

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    whoisbeni
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    Liverpool Echo reporting that talks are underway with Klopp, progressing well and that Liverpool want to confirm his appointment on Friday.

    A few points
    – if the echo are reporting it then it must be true, as they get fed most of their stories.
    – I would have thought that these talks had already taken place and the club are trying to put a respectful gap between Brendan going and Klopp appointment.
    – it says that talks are being handled exclusively by Ian Ayres. How that arse is still in a job is a mystery. A cock up is never far away when he is involved.

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    SensibleS7
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    Glad to read first time on here, somebody also against Ian Ayre. He should have gone. I really hope the transfer committee’s completely wiped out and the next manager (whoever he may be) will always have the final say on players coming in and players going out.

    #657109
    whoisbeni
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    The Echo story also says that Klopp must agree to work within the existing structures and processes in the club.

    I can’t describe what I think of Ian Ayre as it would get me in trouble. But I’ve had the brief displeasure of his company too often, including at Club Wembley when we played Chelsea in the FA Cup Final – he is a total arse.

    #657115

    SensibleS7
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    Know the feeling mate – he seems quite full of himself.

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    #657145

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    On the surface, you can see why FSG have opted for Klopp with the similarities at Dortmund, but Ancelotti, if available is still a better all rounder, which is what I’d prefer.

    I accept Klopp will add more personality to the club however, and maybe a lot of the fans prefer to have that stamp of identity. I think that’ll bring more exciting times ahead, but that’ll of course bring its flip sides.

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    redwing80
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    Telegraph confirmed it. Deal will be done by the weekend

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11913487/Liverpool-to-appoint-Jurgen-Klopp-on-three-year-deal-by-the-end-of-week.html

    Apparently FSG have been wanting him since they took over

    #657271
    redwing80
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    The similarities between Liverpool and Dortmund makes this too much of a perfect match. Ancelotti is a great manager but lets think long term. If we don’t get Klopp now, City or Chelsea would benefit

    #657325

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    Kilo be the man for me but as beni says, ayre is never to far from absolutely messing things up. Get klopp in now if possible. I won’t believe anything is done till we see him in a conference at anfield.

    Ancelloti never builds teams. Klopp worked within a budget. His biggest signing was 20m. His teams play fast agressive football. He’s the best option in my opinion

    #657361
    whoisbeni
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    Redwing – yes, and written by Chris Bascombe. He is never wrong about Liverpool – he spent years at the Liverpool Echo before the telegraph and still writes for the echo. He was the man on the inside, almost the unofficial press officer for LFC for years.

    At first I was for Ancellotti, but for the reason that Sean has said I have really warmed to the idea of Klopp.

    Echo reports that whilst he has agreed to work within the financial structures he will effectively chair the dreaded transfer committee and have full rights of veto. It seems like the transfer committee will just become more of an advisory group rather than what it is at the moment – which has to be good news.

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    Spodge
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    Sean and Beni,good points Ancellotti is a real gent but the point that he does not build teams but manages top established teams well is valid. Klopp has built teams and that is the sort of challenge he faces.Their will be overnight success and I hope Liverpool fans give the new man ,whoever he is,a fair chance!

    #657532

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    Ancelotti is certainly associated more with managing star studded teams and I take everyone’s points.

    Klopp looks a better fit in terms of the types of challenges ahead, but the question stuck in the back of my mind is whether Klopp has the all round game to consistently win the big trophies this club should be about. Remember, what separates the good managers from the great ones are the finer margins, the extra details those managers put into their side that maximises their chances of success. That is the standard we should always look for, and it’s where we’ve failed in recent decades.

    However, considering Rodgers has left little of a legacy, we certainly need someone to come in and shake things up and lay a foundation to build for the future. I concede Klopp is certainly that man.

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    Red Herring
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    Well, on the basis that the spread of bookies prices (on Oddschecker) for Klopp to take over is from 1/12 to 1/20 – you’d assume that this is effectively a done deal. Also, if you look at the other horses (not) in the race, there is nobody else that enthuses me as an option, so I am OK to support the appointment of Klopp. However, the one thing that worries me a bit is how the UK media are going to get stuck into him if he is not an instant success. With Brendan, you could not find a more considered, dignified, respectful and humble character; but they still found a way to continuously ridicule him – even when we were being successful. With Klopp’s “larger than life” personality and his irreverent attitude towards establishment, our media will perform their ritual love-in when things go well, but will have a field day in trying to destroy him at other times.

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    Hightown hope
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    Red Herring – the English press are happy to have a go at anyone….except Fergie of course! If Klopp is not a success, he will be fair game but only in the same way the vultures are beginning to circle round Mourinho now. They are scavengers.

    Btw one comment , Red, you did make that made me choke on my cornflakes was you calling Brendan humble. He was many things but humble wasn’t one of them!

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    Red Herring
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    Hightown, yes I’ll stand by my assertion that he was a reasonably humble person. You clearly think that he was the opposite of this which, in my book, equates to boastful. Throw me some examples of when BR was boasting about his achievements and I may get converted.

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    whoisbeni
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    There are no shortage of David Brent style pompous and nonsense boasts. His arrogance, and self praise was cringeworthy.

    His comments about Spurs, or how he was bigging himself up about coaching players intelligently rather than training dogs etc

    The list could go on and on but like most fans I stopped listening to anything he said about 12 months ago.

    #657853
    Red Herring
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    I never did get this David Brent comparison as the 2 weren’t similar at all. You’ve just got sucked in to mass social media opinion that was only kicked-off because Brendan didn’t give them anything to react to; so someone invented something with very little foundation that was going to make all non-Liverpool supporters chuckle as they played with their alphabetti spaghetti. To prove my point; I’ve just googled “David Brent – Brendan Rodgers” and hit upon the Guardian Quiz from April 2013 where you have to choose which one of them made a selection of sayings. Although there’s no reason for you to believe me, I got 9/10 correct because it wasn’t even difficult. The one that I did get wrong was (pasted below):

    8. “I like to use a quote: Per aspera ad astra, which is Latin for ‘through adversity to the stars.’”

    Correct answer: Brendan Rodgers

    You answered: David Brent

    #657862
    whoisbeni
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    I don’t read The Guardian

    #658051

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    Klopp is the best choice and FSG have acted quickly – sooner than most of us would have expected. I suspect FSG were looking at what is unraveling at Chelsea… If we don’t get Klopp now Chelsea would have made a move.

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    If speculation are to be true, it would be a match make in heaven. However, in order for Klopp to be a success in Liverpool I feel more still needs to be done to prevent history (transfer dealings) from repeating itself. The way the infamous transfer committee deals with the transfers is unforgivable and need to be scrape, the next manager (who has the proper footballing knowledge) should have full control of the transfer policy rather than going through a bunch of clueless mugs who have no idea of how the squad operates. The manager is the one who is going to deliver the results so he should have the privilege to decide for himself. So now I’m just awaiting to see what’s FSG next move whether they would tweak on how things are going to be done in Liverpool or will they continue to stick to a plan that has proven it doesn’t work.

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