Liverpool v Man City Sun 4.30

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    kopite
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    “Premier League players will be allowed extra leeway when it comes to ricocheted handballs.

    It is often impossible to avoid contact with the ball if it has deflected off the body of an opponent, team-mate, or even another part of the own player.

    So a handball will not be awarded if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/nearby.”

    This is taken from Premierleague.com

    #1798886

    NotoriousBingo
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    The ref can make his own judgement call on what is called a handball… nothing new here, we’ve both been awarded and penalised for similar offenses… we’ve also gotten away with it on a few occasions and asked for a lot of handball that were not rewarded… City simple lost their concentration for a minute there…

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    j c
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    Good post kopite. The one just before we scored was never a pen. But there was another later with TAA that looked dodgy to me. He had his arms out, the ball kicked straight at his hand but his hand shouldn’t be there. In my opinion that’s a penalty.

    Awesome game. Felt like a cup final. Both teams put everything into it.
    City had us pinned down in our own half for long periods, but it shows how good our defense is, we managed to restrict the scoring opportunities. While we produced a few moments of pure quality at the other end, and punished them.
    Huge difference from last time they were at Anfield.

    After half time we were well in control, up until they got the goal, then there was a few dangerous moments and could have easily been 3-2 or 3-3 if they get that penalty decision.
    Respect to City, they were very bold, not many teams will come to Anfield and play like that.

    Not quite good enough though, which shows how resilient this Liverpool team is. Huge result in terms of the title race. That is going to make us firm favourites.
    Turning doubters into believers.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    What pleased me more than anything yesterday was how proactive our midfield was in possession. Been harping on about this since Phil left about our lack of attacking dynamism in some games especially with our tried and trusted trio of Gini, Fab and Hendo. In Klopp’s 433 or any 433 there has to be balance with the ball as much as without.

    Much of our attacking threat does come from our full backs and front three but the midfield HAS to chip in with assists and goals, no matter what your midfield system is in a 433. This HAS to happen if we want to topple City and lift the PL trophy in May.

    Their job IS NOT just to support the fulls and front three but to exploit gaps in central mid (Bobby can’t do it all on his own) and one of Gini, Hendo or Fab (normally the aforementioned two) HAVE TO help out between the lines or play becomes massively predictable as we have seen in some games this season (first halves especially).

    Hats off to Gini (got into some great 8 and 10 positions yesterday), Fabinho (his positioning was brilliant and got forward and scored) and Hendo (dropping, pushing up helping Trent and Mo and assisted). Those ARE the pre-requisites (not always the priorities) of a three mid man with and without ball regardless of who’s damn system it is. Kudos Gents and Klopp.

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    liverlad
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    Kopite.

    If the play had happened against Liverpool & Stones would have handled I would have been annoyed, I have to be fair in my judgement & not be biased.

    #1799308

    pinezes69
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    Red Herring Off side trap is a great risk. City could have scored twice in the beginning and we conceded a goal against Villa since players start their run ‘behind’ our defence line.

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    AK
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    #1799433

    Big_Balls
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    Am I the only one who thinks his punishment is wrong. Surely having to play the full 90 minutes for England is far more suitable punishment

    #1799436

    Sean the sailor
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    Winji was absolutely superb on Sunday

    Lovren has a great game aswell

    This really is a proper team. Very exiting time’s

    #1799439
    Red Herring
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    pinezes69>> What is your actual definition of ‘offside trap’ in this context? Do you mean a.) the defenders (which will include other members of the team at set pieces) holding a high (offside) line such that the attackers are restricted from advancing beyond this point before the ball is delivered? or b.) the defensive line all moving forward together just momentarily before the ball is delivered and hence trapping the attackers in an offside position? My understanding is that b.) is the true offside trap but I suspect that you are talking about situation a.) because you refer to it happening at set pieces.

    I can say with the utmost certainty that we do not play the offside trap (b.) at set pieces. We may hold our line instead of dropping back as the ball is delivered, but that is just having the confidence that you are set-up correctly and all the geometry is correct such that it minimises the chances of the attackers timing their run to optimum effect.

    Of course, it will not work absolutely 100% of the time (see Villa game); but the coaching team will have belief that, on the balance of probabilities, we have got things right. You can bet that VAR may have had an impact on how much we hold a line at set pieces and I suspect that teams are now taught to observe that any ‘legal’ body part is not left trailing behind.

    Rather than discussing it on here, why don’t you write to Juergen Klopp and tell him what we’re doing wrong.

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    Red Herring
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    Big_Balls >> No, I’m in agreement with you on that one.

    #1799458

    pinezes69
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    I call off side trap the way which we defend at set pieces.
    Can you give me Klopp’s no to call him??

    #1799474
    Red Herring
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    Well, we don’t play the offside trap at set pieces; so I think we’ve reached the end of the line on this particular conversation.

    #1799486

    NotoriousBingo
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    Pinez… that would be a high defensive line, which gives us a greater chance of catching the opposition offside.
    Which is not a problem because we got Van Dijk who excels at bossing the high defensive line.
    What we are doing is working, I wouldn’t complain about it as we are not conceding that much even though we cant get a clean sheet but that has nothing to do with the high defensive line, just lapses of concentration.

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    pinezes69
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    Ok! we call it high defensive line which has risks. If we do not play so high the opponents do not have the chance to attack from behind as it happened with Villa goal.

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