Liverpool vs Utd

The whole team looked like they didnt want to be there or forgot how to play.
If its going to be better against Benfica,which i think it will be,its because of change of tactics,simple as that.

Nixer – The result was probably the combination of poor performances, tactics and players missing through injury.

I agree. I will say one thing though, for Utd v Liverpool to be shown last on MOTD which includes matches like Burnley v West Ham it’s an absolute disgrace and should never ever happen.

A point away at Liverpool is good but the risk of going for 3 at the expense of losing a point is surely the better way to go. Liverpool are not our rivals this season (or they shouldn’t be) so keeping the status quo between us in terms of points and protecting our 7 point lead is pointless especially when there is the opportunity to move 10 points clear of them and stay level with our main rivals City.

Well said Symphany

Well thats one opinion,sympathy and its certainly not mine. Football is the most beautiful ultimate game and has been played for centuries.The whole idea is to put the football in opponents goal. Its not about defending the own goal with 10 men,thats antifootball and i rather watch paint dry than seeing your favourite club playing anti football. This is not The Red Devils way to play the game. Its not even worthy of a relegation side to play that defensive. Its not fun to watch and its not fun for the players,Lukaku looked very frustrated he was totally isolated from the rest.

I know the best way to destroy Klopp´s tactic is to sit back but where the hell was the counter attack? Dont we have the players to counter Liverpool or were we so totally outplayed that we couldnt string three passes together. Is it the players or the tacic?

Interesting question Scholsey. The general consensus in here is when we play the big six away we park the bus and hope to get 0-0 with DeGea on his toes.
We play Spurs 28th this month at home so i guess its not the same tactic unless we score early and Spurs take possession of the game.
Maybe its just against Liverpool he use this antifootball because of Klopp?

@zico and Manthistle – I’d love it if we played the attacking football we did under Fergie week in week out even against the big teams however, in my personal opinion, I don’t think our squad is there yet. Before Saturday we were averaging 3 goals a game which I don’t think anyone can call boring. Personally I don’t care much about our away record against the Top Six teams; whilst it’s an excellent feeling beating any of them away from home I’d much rather share the points at their ground rather than go at it and lost in an enthralling 3-2.

If for 5 out of 38 matches of the season United play the most boring football and we win the league, I’ll take that.

happyhurling – The result is not the issue. It’s the manner of the result that I am criticising. When Fergie went to anfield he didn’t park the bus. Yes, he played more defensive and rightly so but we would play on the counter and we would at least try to score. On saturday we didn’t even try and get a winner. When O’Shea scored the last minute winner it was a smash and grab but we at least sent men forward in the final stages trying to nick a win. Mourinho brought on Lindelof in the 92nd minute FFS to secure a point. Even Rio was livid on Twitter at that substitution.

Records will show that we went to Anfield and got a point which in the grand scheme of things is a good point earned. I’m not saying we should have gone and opened up because that’s what Arsenal did and we saw what happened to them but Liverpool aren’t Real Madrid or Barcelona or even City for that matter. They’re 7 points behind us, playing shit with their star player injured.

Also, it’s all good and well drawing away and winning at home against your rivals but what if you don’t win your home game a la City and Liverpool last season?

Mourinho has sorted out getting maximum points from the lesser teams but he needs to change his philosophy against the bigger teams. With the pace in the team on Saturday (Valencia, Young, Mkhitaryan, Lukaku, Martial) and the physically strong defensive unit (de Gea, Jones, Smalling, Matic) we had the tools to play the counter attack without over exposing ourselves.

If we play like that against Spurs they’ll punish us with their attacking prowess.

Those people still whinging on three days after the event might as well save their collective breath because Mourinho ain’t changing tactics anytime soon, especially with this group of players whom it is clear he still doesn’t trust 100% to deliver when the chips are down,and who can blame him?.
Just look how we played at Stoke and Southampton when we were put under pressure for the only other times this season and you will get your answer as to how things were likely to pan out at Anfield,especially without Pogba and Bailly.
Fact is,whilst we have some very good players at Old Trafford we haven’t got enough really top players in our squad who can be relied on to deliver in the biggest of games week after week.Added to that there is still far too many who shouldn’t even be working at the club selling pies and programs,never mind being picked to play at Anfield or coming on as the first sub during that game.
Some of us were saying all summer that we needed to do more and strengthen more areas of the squad than we ended up doing and I’m afraid you reap what you sow as far as that’s concerned.
I can at least see decent progress for the first time in a good few years and for now I will be happy with that and a top 3 finish and maybe a decent run to the ECL quarter finals.That’s just about as much as this squad is capable of for now,simple as that.

@OT Fax – There’s no “all of a sudden” about it mate,my aspirations for this season were always as I stated above,check my post history if you need confirmation.I didn’t need to watch us struggle so badly to even do the basics half right at Anfield to come to that conclusion.
We just haven’t got enough of the quality in the squad that is needed to mix it with the big boys over a long season I’m afraid,simple as that.

“Has he been told that two bore draws at Anfield is not what is expected of a Utd manager? 😉 I think its just sunk in the crazy £££ available to City and how far behind we are at the moment with little prospect of catching up anytime soon. His ego just won’t allow him to be second best to Pep. Guaranteed yearly success and almost limitless funds at PSG very attractive to him no doubt…”-lol.