Maddie McCann

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  • #1617300

    nine nine nine
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    Mac, “Rather than throwing silly accusations around on here as to who might have complained which led to the threads being closed”.

    I have not intention of getting into the whole Madeline Mcann situation with you again my comment about “silly accusations” was aimed purely at the “silly accusations” that you aimed in my direction re the thread getting closed. Which had you read my post properly should have been obvious to you!

    And as for how the Editor’s run the site what do you not understand about “But I’m guessing and only they can confirm that.”

    Seemingly given both of the above you have a problem with reading Mac!

    As I said if you want to know why the Editor closed the thread just ask him but don’t throw your groundless and silly accusations at me because I had nothing to do with closing the threads I have no more sway on here as a club site Moderator than any other poster! And it’s a matter of pure common sense to know that an Editor wouldn’t close a thread just because another poster deemed how the thread had gone as pointless!

    #1617332
    MacGuffin
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    @nine nine nine – I did not aim my suspicion at you personally, although admittedly you fit the profile. I don’t see why it’s “silly” to suggest that somebody may have contacted the Editors. Does that never happen on forums?

    And if somebody did, is it “silly” to suspect it was somebody following the thread who did not find it enjoyable and preferred it ended. Doesn’t sound that far fetched to me. btw – Is it silly to think somebody whose name is 999 may have called the police. (joke don’t overreact)

    Yes I know you are only guessing about the Editors but you go into great length about how they may have thought this or may have thought that. You are certain they do this, dont do that. Why do you speak with such confidence and at length about something you don’t know.

    And why do you state the bleedin obvious like .. if you want to know ask them. Do you think I couldn’t have thought of that. I told you I doubted they would give a meaningful answer.

    The only reason I mentioned it was because steveosnakeye referrenced the deletion and both he and Wonderfuel said they found it enjoyable.

    Anyhow, you dont want to talk about the funding, you said you didn’t report the topic, you have given your insight into the editorial process and advised me to ask the policeman. I’ve got it.

    PS – The annonymous person who emailed me also said ……

    “Nine believes he runs the forum and any disagreement, you have had it. The amount of posters he has driven away over the years because he forever has in for them and uses others he is in contact with to drive them out.”

    I’ll let you ponder who could be the culprit in the mystery of the email whodunnit.

    #1617357

    nine nine nine
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    Mac, you know and I know you aimed that accusation at me so let’s not play
    ” silly” games, however it had nothing whatsoever to do with me although I’m not surprised the threads were closed given the sensitivity of the threads and some of what was put up on the threads.

    Seemingly in appraising the threads the Editor decided it was best closed but just for clarity that is merely my personal opinion.

    As for your friend Tom I haven’t got any interest whatsoever in trying to speculate who was responsible for e mailing the total nonsense that some anonymous person e mailed to your personal e mail address that you were foolish enough to provide him with via your personal profile.

    Especially as whoever it was didn’t even have the courage to make themselves known to you or make their nonsensical claims to me personally under their true identity.

    What a totally pathetic coward!

    #1617371
    MacGuffin
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    @nine nine nine – It wasn’t specifically as there are a few “suspects”, but as I said your profile fits the perpetrator (if my suspicion is correct).

    Again, this is what I don’t get. You seem to be to the Editor what Sarah Huckerbee Sanders is for Donald Trump. Yes of course, whatever action the Editor (or indeed anybody) takes is the one he considers best. I don’t get why you feel the need to come out with the bleedin obvious.

    I thought it would be clear I was joking when I suggested you solve the email whodunnit. Obviously it wasn’t.

    As for me putting my email on my profile, I did that when I was a moderator. I thought it made sense for posters to have some way to raise concerns but I guess in your world posters never complain about posts do they. Are the Editors “foolish” for giving out their contact emails? Anyhow, its not my personal email, its an email I use for internet when sites demand an address.

    Yes, the fact the person didn’t identify himself made me ignore it and think what a weasel. I guess I could have replied asking who the hell he was but I can’t be bothered wasting time contacting people when I doubt there would be serious response.

    #1617381

    nine nine nine
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    Mac, as I said let’s not play games in your original post apportioning blame for the threads bring closed you wrote in your response to Stevo “I was not suggesting you complained, my suspicion is it was somebody who kept on about it being pointless.” which you know very well was aimed at me and it is totally dishonest of you to try and claim anything different.

    Well as I’ve said it wasn’t me and I’m not to the Editor what Sarah Hukerbee Sanders is to Donald Trump either I merely gave you a personal opinion as to why the threads were deleted and I wouldn’t have needed to have been Einstein to do that or indeed you Einstein to understand it either!

    If you want more than just an opinion then you best speak to the Editor.

    As least we agree that your friend Tom is a Weasel but I’m not sure you’re that far behind him in the Weasel Stakes given your untrue and wrongful accusations followed by your wriggling!

    #1617399
    steveosnakeeye
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    @mac hatrick of threads to be closed ….

    #1617404

    nine nine nine
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    Why’s that Stevo? Just my opinion but unlike the previous two threads I can’t see anything on this thread that would motivate the Editor to close it.

    #1617421
    steveosnakeeye
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    hey 999, not yet matey! but we know how these things go and it was a tongue in cheek response to Mac who said the previous 2 had been closed so by creating another one we could go for the hatrick 😉

    although those threads did end up going in circles they were (IMHO) very interesting for a good while as was the brexit thread even though things can heated it can be very interesting to hear others views….

    there is so much going at the moment with Brexit, Russia, Trump, Trade wars, Labour taking a battering about the Jews etc….

    #1617430

    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, sorry mate perhaps I was being a tad sensitive on the back of Mac’s unfair accusations.

    You’re almost scared to turn the news on currently given how much bad news is floating around and whilst I agree with you that it’s interesting to hear others views on things one or two on here can somtimes “rush in where angels fear to tread” which was always Mark Holmes concerns in respect of starting a Non Football forum which he detailed a number of times on TT.

    I rarely post on the Non Football Forum nowdays to avoid uneccessary conflict although I will often take a spin through it just to read what is being said and I agree some of it can be interesting even informstive and I enjoy resding Lenny’s posts.

    I certainly didn’t intend to get involved in another Madeline McCann discussion and wouldn’t have done so had Mac not wrongfully accused me of getting the previous threads closed down.

    On the football front it looks like you may be getting your wish re Wenger and from a Chelsea perspective there’s a very big Summer coming up where the club need to get a lot of big decisions right or risk becoming a non elite club. Take care buddie. Cheers 999

    #1617431
    steveosnakeeye
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    no worries mate we all do the same things on this site from time to time

    it doestn matter if its football or non football with osme of the posters we have but for those times when there is no football inparticular or with those once in a lifetime events that we are witness to and party to then as i said getting the views of others that you talk to about football views can be a real eye opener and even educational…

    yep the world is as ever in a mess but there really is some interesting things happening…..

    as for arsenal, i wont beleieve a damn thing until he goes and new man replaces, then at least we can moan about a whole new manager and his failings 😉

    #1617432
    steveosnakeeye
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    no worries mate we all do the same things on this site from time to time

    it doestn matter if its football or non football with osme of the posters we have but for those times when there is no football inparticular or with those once in a lifetime events that we are witness to and party to then as i said getting the views of others that you talk to about football views can be a real eye opener and even educational…

    yep the world is as ever in a mess but there really is some interesting things happening…..

    as for arsenal, i wont beleieve a damn thing until he goes and new man replaces, then at least we can moan about a whole new manager and his failings 😉

    #1617433
    steveosnakeeye
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    we have been a non elite club for a while now, we are dropping like a stone!

    #1617434

    nine nine nine
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    Stevo, it seems to me and a lot of Chelsea supporters that Chelsea are trying desperstely hard to join you in the non elite club sector.

    Hopefully Roman takes hold of the controls and wrestles the plane out of its current downward tail spin. I have a feeling Roman just might try to this Summer with a number of really big changes. But we’ll see. Cheers 999

    #1617441
    MacGuffin
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    @nine nine nine – You were not the only one who said the topic was pointless. Alfie did, WG did, to name but two. If I was certain it was you, I would have said so. Despite what you may think, I’m hardly known to be a weasel when it comes to speaking my mind.

    I dont need you to tell me I can always ask the Editors, that’s the bleedin obvious. The reason I have not is (1) I doubt they would give a full honest answer (2) they do not want to be bothered with trivial matters.

    And I certainly don’t need your “opinion” on what their motivation may be.

    #1617443
    MacGuffin
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    Onto the topic …..

    Operation Grange (OG) was supposed to “treat the abduction as if it happened yesterday” but its remit was to investigate on the presumption MM was abducted by a stranger and ruled out McCann involvement from the outset, despite the Portuguese not clearing them of involvement and them still being prime suspects of the Portuguese police.

    After 10 years, OG has not uncovered anything to support the intruder theories. I maintain that the more they investigate along these lines and the more lines they rule out, the more likely it becomes the answer is to be found in a line they have ignored.

    This open letter summarises my view of OG Click Here

    OG has never reported on what it has investigated and its conclusions. It is shrouded in secrecy and silence, throwing the occassional bone to the public about “following a new line of investigation”. The taxpayers fund the operation and the taxpayers deserve answers.

    Look how threadbare the wiki is on OG Click Here
    And the Met website Click Here

    I could not even find a dwdicated Met website for OG. Try googling Operation Grange.

    Statistics show the family must always be considered suspects until conclusively rule out. In 2004 a 8 year old went missing in the Algarve Click Here I’m not suggesting the case is the same, just the importance of considering family involvement.

    Rachel Charles was another child who went missing in the Algarve http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-560696/Madeleine-The-damning-case-police-Britains-investigative-reporter.html

    #1617445
    Wonderfuel Gas
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    What sort of person would get a thread closed down, eh mac?

    #1617454
    MacGuffin
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    @steveosnakeeyes – IF the topic goes into a discussion on the police investigation, which is the reason for funding, then its inevitable there would be strong views expressed on both sides.

    Given in the previous threads, there was little to no abuse hurled (especially in comparison to other threads) 999 may well be correct it was the subject matter, not language, that was considered taboo.

    It follows that if this topic were to be meaningfully discussed, the Editors would doubtless get their hat trick.

    Every major news event is potentially partisan and explosive, so that beggars the question why have the section. And nothing is more explosive than football, (you should see the fights on the United page) so why bother having a site at all if robust debate is frowned on.

    Personally, I would start some topics but struggle to think of topics that don’t have the potential for explosion. And given the view some folk hold, that unless full facts are known and a conclusion can be reached, its pointless then indeed … what’s the point.

    I don’t see why topics have to have short life spans. There are entire websites devoted to mysteries of our time (eg JFK assassination). If a topic goes on and on, what’s the problem just so long as the participants enjoy participation?

    Perhaps the site should consider making mufc an Editor, then he can plant bombs and watch us kick the shit out of each other.

    #1617456

    nine nine nine
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    “What sort of person would get a thread closed down, eh mac?”

    Hoisted by your own petard eh Mac!😊

    The lesson for you here is not to throw gtoundless accusations around willy nilly.

    At lesst least you seem to have got it now! “999 may well be correct it was the subject matter, not language, that was considered taboo.” Although I suspect it went a bit deeper than that with all sorts of accusations and blame being apportioned that the Editors would have been uneasy with.

    It was a stand out topic with a copious number of posts!

    #1617458
    steveosnakeeye
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    @Mac

    It may well be certain topis are forwned upon, speaking of which lets see if my Holocaust thread goes anywhere, doesnt get much more inflamitory than that subject matter though it is a genuine attempt to understand how anyone can be a denier!

    #1617464
    MacGuffin
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    @Wonderfuel – Thats a fair question. We can assume people do complain else why do forums bother telling people how to report posts.

    There is always a certain type of person, who if something does not interest them seek to stop others from participating. Mary Whitehouse made a career out of it. The busybody neighbours do it all the time. The little girl who doesn’t like the game demands everybody stops playing.

    And there is the type who feels annoyed, insulted, hurt who doesn’t have the wherewithall to respond so calls the police to “get even”. The list of profiles is endless.

    I know you have me down as a squealer type but god knows why. Since when have I ever tried to close down a good punch up? Jeez one of the complaints against me when I was moderator was that I didn’t delete posts.

    Given the Editors have little time to spend on the site (hence them deciding to appoint mods) I find it strange they should have waded through the mega posts in the McCann threads. And towards the end all combatants were suffering from battle fatigue and it was not overly abusive, if at all. Did you think it was.

    I accept that it was going round in circles but is that a reason for closure? I suspect the police were called and a case made to them. Maybe I’m wrong. On reflection, bugger it perhaps I should ask.

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