Pellegrini ? Simeone ?Allegri ? Conte?Guus? or???

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    Chelsea.man
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    Manuel Pellegrini is a manager who divides opinion, although he is Mr. nice and calm, he lacks that big name manager’s aura to attract top players. unlike Mourinho and Simone he calm, but unlike them he lacks that Aura which Mourinho and Simone can persuade big name players to join them. on footballing issue, while he plays attractive football, he is sometimes prone to tactical mistakes, especially where his system isn’t working. high profile coaches like Guardiola, Mourinho Ancelotti has plans when their system isn’t working. when i checked back his record and signings for City, i’m not a were any marquee signing he has made. but then again looking on the other side, he made City play attractive attacking football. then comes the age factor, he will turn 63 later this year, whether we are looking a coach in that age bracket is open to debate. roman Abrahamovic has tough choice to make. but if that choice is between Mark Hughes and Manuel Pellegrini, i will Manuel Pellegrini any given day.

    #839783
    BlueLion
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    Admittedly Pellegrini is a bit beige. But given our recent past and habit for controversy, that might not be a bad thing for a while!

    #839867

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    So whom of Yaya, Aguero, Kompany , Silva, KDB, Sterlingetc. are not considered big players…?

    Pellegrini is the complete opposite of Jose and it is someone who I could see would be well appreciated by Roman and who, I believe, would go along way to repairing the off field reputation of Chelsea

    I assume that age is only an issue if you want it to be. He has managed one of the top EPL clubs for circa 3 years so he is well versed in the EPL and the expectations, so he is well placed to hit the ground running if he feels he wants to continue (which appears to be case)

    Let me be clear, I am not sitting here totally advocating that Pellegrini must be our next manager but I am very reluctant just to discount him as well as he has many good attributes that I think would fit well at Chelsea, especially now that Pep and Ancelotti are clearly off the radar and the fact that Simeone seems to have distanced himself as well…? KTBFFH

    #839900
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    completely agree 1905. While I wouldn’t exactly be jumping up and down with excitement if we signed MP, you have to say that he would be a safer bet than Conte or Allegri who seem to be the front runners at the moment.
    City play good football, he has premier league experience (and success) manages big egos well, no controversy off the pitch and the City fans speak very highly of him. Plus there will be no big contract to buy out.

    In fact the more I think about it, and considering who else is available, its a no brainer really!

    #840137
    Chelsea.man
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    cfc1905, i wish to correct you, Yaya and Aguero are not Pelligirini signings.

    #840290

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    I think he will now be on the A list of candidates that Chelsea are considering although I suspect he will be down the list.

    His plusses are his PL experience he’s won trophies in England and the fact he would be a good PR appointment.

    His down sides are possibly his age 63 next birthday so only 6 years younger than Guus so if Guus feels physically up to it why change when Guus knows the club so well and already has his feet under the table. Pellegrini is also not very tactically astute and has performed poorly in Europe.

    My guess is that ideally Roman wont want to take City’s cast off and we may well be a way down the negotiations road with a preferred candidate.

    But as 1905 rightly said yesterday in respect of Pellegrini ” we could do a lot worse”

    #840383

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    Got a lot of admiration for Pellegrini – a gentleman and if Klopp wasn’t around, he’d definitely be one of my choices.

    Going forward, depending on what is going to happen with the Van Gaal situation, there’s not a great deal of competition and you should be able to acquire a first class appointment in the summer.

    #840398

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    ChelseaMan – I realised that as I was writing it but there are still a few that he has bought and overall seems quite adept at dealing with their high profile personalities (can’t say ego’s as they do not come across like some of our guys did)

    Sensible – you make a valid point that there is every chance that ManU could also be looking at the same managerial pool as we are come the Summer so I am hoping, due to our known situation, that we are already looking and may even have someone targeted or possibly already lined up but are just not saying…? KTBFFH

    #840677

    nine nine nine
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    Reports emanating from Chile suggests that Chelsea have in fact already offered the job to Pellegrini and he is keen to stay in the PL????

    #840782

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    999…like I said in a reply to palmeab on another thread,so what if Pellegrini is Man.City’s cast-off?…are we going to turn our noses up at himh if we’re scraping the barrel and struggling to find someone with the revelent EPL experience who also has an aura about him as a proven higher end manager who could come in and not get completely over-awed at the size of the job?.Yes there are some good up and coming candidates out there but imo they just don’t have the experience required YET for a club like Chelsea at the moment.Still scarred by the AVB fiasco…we need to choose our next manager very carefully!.

    #840809

    nine nine nine
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    mtal, no PL experience didn’t hamper SAF,Wenger and you know who from becoming the most successful Managers the PL has seen and neither Pellegrini or Mancini came with any PL experience and won it.

    But then you scared me by mentioning AVB! Lol.

    There are also rumours of Pellegrini going to Valencia and Graham Hunter who is well connected is predicting an Italian Manager at Chelsea.

    I’m firmly behind 1905’s final summation of Pellegrini. Cheers 999

    #840869
    Luckydestiny
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    I feel cold about pellegrini, partly because he has managed city and they are rivals, but chiefly because he should have done better with them than he has surely?

    He obviously understands how to get good players playing well and to their nature, and that is a big plus in terms of what we need(more importantly though what roman wants.)
    He is a good coach and I would get behind him obviously if appointed, but for me he is very low on the list. Like nine I would rather us stick with guus for another season should he be up to it simply because I like to have an emotional connection to our manager and see pellegrini in the rafa bracket, not the ranieri, carlo , jose or rdm bracket.

    I can not make a rational argument as to why he should not be considered, and so he obviously should be, but my natural response is cold and unimpressed.

    #841499
    Wise-fan
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    Pellegrini is a very good manager whom every club on our position should aspire to turn to. he is better than the noisy one who destroyed us on and off the field. in that sense i can say our club needs him more than he needs us. people should wake up to the reality that no top manager would want to go to Chelsea, because the owner is impatient to give time, the fans will always be loyal to a former manager, and the players may down their tools anytime. which manager would want to be in that situation?

    #841751
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    i think Pellegrini is better person and will do a better job. he is a calm and dignified personally, and in footballing matters he plays an attractive football. and will bring the best out of our current flair players.

    #841799

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    Pellegrini should be doing better with City so how will he do with a weaker squad like Chelsea? okay so we will strengthen next season hopefully but so will the other teams especially the big teams as they will definitely be in Europe so they can be expected to bring in better players than we could.

    #841892

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    Overall there are pluses and minuses for Pellegrini and any other manager that we are looking at

    There are very few ideal managers left available

    Obviously Chelsea are aware of the situation. We do not know if they will try to persuade Hiddink to stay or not but although he is unbeaten I would argue there are to many draws and not enough wins? Roman will have a short list of candidates by now and they will be evaluating them thoroughly to determine whom they think will work best in a priority list

    The next task is to approach their choices in that priority order to see who is available and who actually wants to join. This can be a painstaking and time consuming task and for all we know, other managers may become available by the end of the season..?

    We have to trust that they will get the decision right this time and hopefully sooner rather than later so the new man has time to evaluate the squad and get players in, if they think it is required, ready for next season. KTBFFH

    #842033
    Wise-fan
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    i wish to also mention that any club who has no long term plan like us, will end up recruiting the wrong manager and will be destroyed like us. having experienced this at first hand, we should be more careful of who we appoint and the length of the contract we given them,in the last decade we kept on recruiting manager who do not fit in to our system and vision. take an example in our last managerial appointment, our vision was to blood young players in to the first team, play attractive attacking football, and win trophies consistently. how could have that been possible to match with our managerial appointment? none of those has been achieved. it ended up as all has been predicted, now we are repeating the same mistake. the manager and club should be reading the same script, not different. then again our new manager will have barriers, 1. fans who have their allegiance to a former manager, 2. players who can down their tool any moment. 3. an owner who is trigger happy and can press the red button anytime. any manager who is aware of those 3 things would go nowhere near this job vacancy.

    #842036

    nine nine nine
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    wise fan, I have inadvertently deleted your previous post on this thread and indeed at the same time my response to you which was an error on my part which I aplogise for.

    Having said that I see no reason to use this thread as yet another way to attack the previous regime as I have said previously I am anxious for the good of the site to move things on and not get stuck in a rut as well as avoid tit for tat responses to such attacks.

    I don’t have a problem with anyone raising an objective point re the last regime but overall let’s all try and look forward and try and stick to the theme of the thread. With all of the above in mind I have marginally edited your last post. Cheers 999

    #842048

    nine nine nine
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    wise fan@10:15am w/f, your above post raises some relevant points hopefully now we can look forward in these discussions and focus on the future in respect of the future Manager whoever that may be. Cheers 999

    #842111
    Moos
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    Whats the point of having an experienced manager when he (Hiddink) has limited success everywhere his gone, drawing especially against so many low profile clubs is not good enough and nothing to brag about, wins are needed against all out of the top 4 regulars and also at least a draw against the top 4, draws dont do anything cause its one miserable point and only helps to keep the club in the same position which at the moment is unacceptable. The quicker they bring in a younger and more adventurous manager the better for all at the club. Hiddinks selections and tactics are the same as Mourinhos and its getting the club nowhere.

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