Pellegrini ? Simeone ?Allegri ? Conte?Guus? or???

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  • #868824
    Wise-fan
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    i wish to remind people that no team can outscore Barcelona and R.Madrid. if Athletico was outscored its because they don’t have Ronaldo, Benzema, Bale, Messi, Suarez, Neymar. and not forgetting that Costa who contributed 20 goals last season was signed from them. still they have managed two players who got 20+ goals last season. and this season they have Griezman who is on course to do that. as i said before that when we met them 2013/14 season, it was clear that their style was not defensive. they move the ball forward quickly.something that we need badly as we give teams time to group. our attacking players take too many touches so that they give the opposing teams time to regroup and close down our CF quickly. under Simone that will different and i will expect us to move the ball forward quickly which will bring more goals scored.

    #868827

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    Personally, I disagree that those who do not like Barca’s tippy tappy football are in the minority

    Their current style is much better and if Simeone is to be the man then how he plays at AM would suit us

    All teams that win the EPL do it on the back of conceding the fewest, or amongst the fewest, goals. KTBFFH

    #868905
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    Simeone is not a defensive coach like Mourinho, he plays according to the strength of the opposition, if you watch AM games they are always attacking against most of the teams unless they come up against superior teams such as Barca and Real than they have to play on the counter

    #868960

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    With respect Blaze an average of circa one and a half goals a game scored and circa half a goal a game conceded by Athletico across 24 La Liga games this sesson does not bear that out.

    I don’t quite understand the need to try and claim that Simeone is something that he isn’t his reputation is well acknowledged in football by the pundits and the media alike and supported by the facts.

    As 1905 rightly says if Simeone is to be the man then how he plays at AM will suit us and the team that wins the PL usually does so on the back of the fewest goals conceded.

    Simeone would be a great appointment for us imo but on a cautionary note all of the coverage over the last 24 hours is on the basis of one story in Diario and it still might not happen.

    #869123

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    Talksport are reporting that neither Athletico or Chelsea are prepared to comment on the Simeone to Chelsea rumours?

    It’s beginning to look like it might be on!

    #869467

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    Graham Hunter who is a very credible/one of the most credible football journalists/ writers working out of Spain suggests a Chelsea approach and meetings might have happened but thinks nothing is agreed with Simeone yet?

    You pays your money you takes your choice, as expected it’s currently all very confusing.?

    #869551
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    i don’t know whether this Simone rumours is true or not. but what will happen in the event that we appoint him is that we will have a manager who gets the balance between attack and defense. we will also have a manager who saves us money by grooming some of our young players for first team role. we will also not have more media scrutiny anymore as our likely manager will be media shy thus generating no or little controversy which has been the order of the day in recent seasons. when the foundations are put in place we can alter style. those branding him defensive will be in for rude shock.

    #869800

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    Simeone is what he is w/fan. Nobody is branding him as a defensive Coach his teams though are built on being very strong defensively and very strong on the counter attack and suggesting anything else flys in the face of the views of all the major football pundits, all the football media and all of the facts.

    It is not impossible that should Simeone come to Chelsea that he might try and develop a different philosophy but I think it unlikely he has always set his teams up to play in a certain way and has been successful in doing so and it would be both unusual and foolish of him to change that given that if he is appointed that is what he would have been appointed on.

    I think he will be a great appointment his style of football will suit the players we have and he will look to strengthen what we have to play in his style.

    He can be combustible although he doesn’t court controversy but he is very driven and very intense and I think we need that.

    Personally I think he is all round by far the most suitable candidate for Chelsea much more suited to the club and the Chelsea squad than Guardiola would have been and he has a fine eye for a bargain or two in the transfer market too which won’t do us any harm. Allegedly he has suggested that we need 5 new signings?

    Let’s hope it happens and that the announcement is made in plenty of time to get all of his plans in place for the new season including a review of the squad an analysis of our needs and a sensible and achievable summer transfer strategy.

    But I’m still wary of us being disappointed given Graham Hunters comments, time will tell. Fingers crossed eh.

    #870310

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    Another day another dollar, with the Telegraph suggesting Sampaoli is very much in the running for the Chelsea role and whilst he’s done a great job for Chile he’s only managed in South America and is an Internstional Manager such an appointment has reflections of Scolari to it which we know didn’t work???? Possibly the riskiest appointment of all imo.

    The Mail goes with the Hiddink effect and thd relaxed manner he’s bought to the role improving the chances of Allegri being appointed as he’s similar?

    Apart from the original story from Diario being rehashed in the media over here with the exception of the Talksport piece yesterday there is little coverage or follow up of a Simeone appointment?

    #870400

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    I may be wrong but with regard to Simeone I am not aware of any major regular off field issues

    On the touchline he shows great passion and clearly wants his players to do well and respond to his directions but personally, I do not see that as a bad thing at all – a bit of passion from the manager is a positive attribute in my book

    So, and assuming my first comment is accurate, then I think Simeone has the attributes that Roman would find acceptable…? KTBFFH

    #871336
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    I don’t think that anyone can fault Simone for being passionate about his team. branding him combustible is not the right thing to describe him IMHO. yet everyone agrees that he doesn’t court controversy. every manager will be at the touchline trying to push their team. because he has made one mistake in the Champions league once doesn’t make him combustible. apart from a few managers who like courting controversy everyone else makes mistake and they are forgiven. Wenger was such a manager, he is calm always, but he has pushed and shoved Mourinho, does that makes him combustible? no it doesn’t. those branding Simone combustible should find another fault.

    #871399

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    Wise fan, come on mate Simeone is well known for being combustible how do you think he got the 8 match ban in the 2nd leg of the Spanish Super Cup Final v Real Madrid last August at the Vincente Calderon where he aggressively remonstrated with the 4th official then slapped him around the back of the head once then slapped him around the back of the head again for good measure, then mockingly applauded the officials for their decision to send him off and then refused to be sent off and go the changing rooms.

    If that’s not combustible then I don’t know what is!????

    But it doesn’t put me off Simeone and I still think he’s the best appointment we can make.

    #871600
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    Sir Alex Ferguson was once given 5 match touchline ban for questioning the referees fitness. i wonder if anyone could brand him combustible? and Wenger pushing and shoving Mourinho was just an incident. but if that was Simone he is combustible. sometimes people judge manager based on media influence on them.

    #871657

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    Wise fan , Fergie was as combustible as they come, banning journalists from his press conference over many years because he didn’t like what they said about him or United refusing to do any interviews on MOTD for 7 years , the rows with Wenger and Rafa that went on for years,then there was his famous hair dryer treatment,the boot that he kicked in Beckham’s face which cut him and would have ended in a fight had all the players not have stepped in and then there’s countless lengthy bans too for all sorts of things!

    Fergie was probably one of the most combustible Managers ever in English football, he was still a great Manager though probably the best English football has ever seen which is why I have no misgivings about Simeone being our next Manager.

    Look mate if you want to bury your head in the sand about the profile Simeone has as a Manager and how combustible he is known to be despite all of the weight of evidence confirming that he is both combustible and a defensively based counter attacking Coach that’s up to you . I can only present the facts if you choose to ignore them that’s your choice let’s leave it all there.

    The good news is that Simeone is both of our first choices to takeover at Chelsea. Now all we have to do is get him! ???

    #871966

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    Latest betting odds:

    Conte 5/6 on
    Simeone 6/4
    Allegri 6/1
    Sampaoli 8/1
    Pellegrini 18/1
    Mancini 18/1
    Rodgers 20/1
    Guus 20/1

    What’s caused that then?????

    #872599
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    I haven’t seen anything that suggests that Simone will attract fines and substantial periods of suspension should he take over. What i see in him is a young, bright, talented and passionate coach who could do everything to help his team. That is the exact character that we want to be leading in our dressing roo. What that will give you is a United dressing room, which then will give you good team performance.

    #872809
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    Wise fan… Cant stand him simply because he’s argentinian and got beckham sent off. I hope he chokes on his tie in a La Liga game being beaten by the bottom placed side. Sorry… above all the above, I don’t want him at the club to see you go into some sort of meltdown…. I find it hilarious.

    #872815
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    Simone will move the ball quicker forward… sounds like we could do with big sam allerdyce, his sides move the ball quickly forward as well…

    #873034
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    I don’t understand how someone could oppose Simone’s appointment on the bases that he got sent off Beckham 1998? Really? So are as honest as that yet you will want Costa here because i can confirm to you that he has caused a player to be sent off. What players do sometimes doesn’t reflect on their character. May be it could be the heat of that moment. I don’t have anything bad to say about Simone, because he sent off Beckham doesn’t make him a villian in my eyes. May be you as an English fan and citizen you have the right to be angary with him personally. But for me Chelsea fc comes first. And on the bases of that he is a talented, young and born winner manager.

    #873037

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    Seemingly the Italian press reporting on a recent meeting in Rome between Chelsea and Antonio Conte’s representstives may have been the reason for yesterday’s betting turnaround which propelled Conte to odds on favourite for the Chelsea Managers job.

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