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  • #1852294
    j c
    j c
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    Here is a BLM protest in Washington DC, where a mob breaks in to a business and shoplifts (water bottles), while chanting “free the people, fight the power, fuck the police, revolution”.

    On their way out, they accost one of the several black men working at the business for “protecting white supremacy”.

    It doesn’t seem very productive to me.

    #1852469

    NotoriousBingo
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    Okay… let’s go down that way, I was giving you guys the benefit of the doubt but there have been over 300 cases of police assaulting media over there.

    Public lynchings, the cops are actually herding protesters into areas to lock them up and you still believe the media…

    I’ll post a few videos for you of the violence and it’s not the protesters.

    #1852470

    Laughing Lenny
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    Zico, yes it’s pathetic, but the biggest irony of it all is, this farce has very little to do with the colour of one’s skin. It’s all about cultural differences that are completely diametrically opposed to one and other. Islamic beliefs and their many ways of behaviour are in direct conflict with our western way of life.
    This UK ‘Black Lives Matter’ organisation is a sham and anyone who supports it is a dimwit. And that includes the entire football league hierarchy. They should be ashamed of themselves for insisting that players drop to their knees before kicking a ball!
    I’ll never forgive them. Gutless pathetic bastards the lot of them. And the players too! I wonder who (if any) will have the balls to break ranks? I won’t hold my breath. After all, they are on a nice little earner. But we’ll see….

    j c. It’s disgusting what’s happening in the US mate. But it’s getting just as disgusting what’s going on over here. I’m seriously starting to wonder why my dad and my uncles bothered to put their lives on the line to fight for our beliefs and democracy in this country.
    This entire UK ‘Black Lives Matter’ band of evil misguided dimwit evil numb-nuts need to be seriously dealt with by as much force as necessary, and what’s left of our woefully inept powers that be must see to it. And quick!
    If not, I think there will be hell to pay and the future will be murder.
    Cheers, Lenny.

    #1852471

    Laughing Lenny
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    Nobody needs the ‘benefit’ of your doubt Bingo. You’ve already shown your colours.
    Give it a rest.

    #1852480
    j c
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    I know what you mean Bingo. I’ve seen police driving into and knocking down protestors, saw them arrest a journalist, and firing rubber bullets on people overzealously. Ugly scenes.

    Unfortunately when protests threaten to get destructive, police have to be heavy handed to put a stop to it. Otherwise it can escalate to full scale looting, burning and rioting.

    Did you see the 60 year old man who was shot dead by protestors, because he tried to stop them stealing TVs? If police had been more heavy handed that evening instead of backing down, they may have saved his life. There’s nuance to these things.

    Hopefully homicide detectives will be on the case as we speak, and bring justice to those 5 men who were lynched if that has happened. I’ve not heard anything about that.
    But in the city of Chicago alone, it’s not uncommon for 30+ black men to be killed in a single week (gang violence). Across America, 20 black men are killed by other black men each and every day. But we don’t attribute blame for those killing to the whole race. It’s the individuals who are responsible.

    Here’s something that probably won’t be in the news tomorrow… But tonight the UK Campaign Against Anti-Semitism has put out a statement condemning BLM UK, after they made comments about Zionism.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1277272613547642880

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    j c
    j c
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    I know what you mean Bingo. I’ve seen police driving into and knocking down protestors, saw them arrest a journalist, and firing rubber bullets on people overzealously. Ugly scenes.

    Unfortunately when protests threaten to get destructive, police have to be heavy handed to put a stop to it. Otherwise it can escalate to full scale looting, burning and rioting.

    Did you see the 60 year old man who was shot dead by protestors, because he tried to stop them stealing TVs? If police had been more heavy handed that evening instead of backing down, they may have saved his life. There’s nuance to these things.

    Hopefully homicide detectives will be on the case as we speak, and bring justice to those 5 men who were lynched if that has happened. I’ve not heard anything about that.
    But in the city of Chicago alone, it’s not uncommon for 30+ black men to be killed in a single week (gang violence). Across America, 20 black men are killed by other black men each and every day. But we don’t attribute blame for those killing to the whole race. It’s the individuals who are responsible.

    Here’s something that probably won’t be in the news tomorrow… But tonight the UK Campaign Against Anti-Semitism has put out a statement condemning BLM UK, after they made comments about Zionism.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/antisemitism/status/1277272613547642880

    #1852507
    Alfie07
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    Wow Zico, no hiding the racism with you, is there? Vile.

    #1852689
    Zico
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    Alfie,as usual trying to duck questions with smoke and mirrors.
    Its not the colours of the skin what determines what kind of man you are,its the way you act.

    Now be a good boy and answer the gentlemans questions.

    #1852734

    Laughing Lenny
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    “WOW” Alfie! Do you wear Wranglers?
    Oh I get it, that’s why you’ve been bending over backwards to blow out so much naive politically correct condescending hot air. I hate to say this but it’s not only smells “Vile”, it stinks mate.
    Try a pair of Levis. They might be a better fit.
    Cheers Lenny.

    #1852754
    Zico
    Zico
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    Lenny-When they cant discuss they draw the racistcard aka end of discussion.

    #1852758

    NotoriousBingo
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    #1852778
    j c
    j c
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    So your source is a website that’s pushing for police defunding!?

    You think that’s a good source. But you’ve told me I’m stupid for posting video of BLM founders actually speaking in their own words, and direct quotes from BLMs own website.
    Come on now, you need to learn how to assess sources properly and try to avoid bias sources all together.

    The cost of police in America comes to 350 dollars per person, per year. It’s hardly enough to buy everyone a Mercedes.

    Without police, every single business in your town or city will have to spend a ton of money on security, that security has less accountability than police. Big established corporations may be ok, but small start-up family business will not. The rich who can afford 100K a year on private security will be fine, ordinary people will be fucked. Literally. The most violent and predatory people in society will take control. You won’t have a say, or vote, over who your local warlord is.

    And let’s not forget the Marxist ideology behind this, which the organisers admit to. We’ve already seen mobs forming in large numbers and then committing crimes and trampling all over other citizens rights. We know they want revolution and their biggest obstacle to that at the moment is law and order. What do you think these dribblers would do if there was no police?

    Not from the media, these are FBI statistics, from 2018.
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls

    I don’t see the world through a lens of racial collectivism. Everyone is their own person, but some social and spiritual problems are certainly more prevalent in certain demographics than others.

    In America the Black demographic makes up around 14% the population, and white 76% the population. Based on those figures:

    Per capita, a black person is 4.78 times more likely to commit murder than a white person.
    (2925/0.14) / (3315/0.76) = 4.78

    Per capita, a black person is 11.9 times more likely to kill a white person than a white person is to kill a black person.
    (514/0.14) / (234/0.76) = 11.9

    Per capita, a black person is 60.29 times more likely to kill a black person, than a white person is to kill a black person.
    (2600/0.14) / (234/0.76) = 60.29

    These calculations are from FBI statistics, sourced directly.

    We hear all the time from prominent figures in American sports and the media about the dangers black people face from the white demographic. But very little about other dangers.
    In reality, a black person is OVER 60 TIMES MORE LIKELY to kill a black person, than a white person is.

    Take a moment for that to sink in. The media and pro black organisers really have their priorities a mess if you ask me.

    #1852835
    j c
    j c
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    Oh there’s a surprise, no coverage of the BLM anti semitism controversy over the weekend

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=blm+anti+semitism&page=1

    #1853121
    j c
    j c
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    Well this is welcome news.

    Premier League condemns BLM, and accuses them of hijacking a popular cause to push their political agenda.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/53242328

    Ought to have done the research first, but credit to the PL for rescinding their endorsement of BLM. And credit to BBC for eventually reporting on it.

    #1853131

    nine nine nine
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    Questions beginning to be asked about the political motives of BLM UK the organisation.

    None of Kelly Cates, Jamie Redknapp or Patrice Evra presenters of the Brighton v United game on Sky last night wore BLM badges as previously.

    #1853133
    Alfie07
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    JC – I am not sure they are rescinding their endorsement of BLM, I think they will claim they never backed the political party and were simply endorsing a simple, clear, message.

    I think the players will still wear the BLM logo on their shirts.

    I would expect a similar message to what the PL has put out to also come from clubs or club captains shortly.

    Again, the message is separate from the political party.

    #1853139

    nine nine nine
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    It’s unfortunate that the philosophy which all decent people will agree with no matter their colour is also seemingly the name of a political movement that would have significantly less support from the majority.

    #1853320

    nine nine nine
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    “Leading Premier League stars are fighting to distance themselves from the politicisation of the Black Lives Matter movement, amid growing concern over the official campaign’s activism.

    The group of captains established during the shutdown to represent players were consulted over Tuesday’s statement from the Premier League — and drafted jointly by the League and the players’ union, the PFA — which condemned the BLM movement’s political activism.

    The official BLM UK Twitter account has lately called for the overthrow of capitalism, defunding of the police and an end to free trade with Israel.

    Premier League CEO Richard Masters was accused of “opening a can of worms” by Sunderland MP Julie Elliott over the top flight’s support for the Black Lives Matter message during a grilling by the Department of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee on Sunday.

    Masters: BLM doesn’t set precedent for future activism in top flight
    Masters insisted that the League, who have had no dealings with the official BLM campaign, remain apolitical but described the movement as a “moral cause” and “unique”.

    In the strongly-worded statement, the League reiterated support for “the message that black lives matter” but added: “We do not endorse any political organisation or movement, nor support any group that calls for violence or condones illegal activity. These actions are unwelcome and are rejected by the League.”

    Sky Sports pundits Jamie Redknapp and Patrice Evra and presenter Kelly Cates last night declined to wear the Black Lives Matter badge for coverage of Manchester United’s win at Brighton.” Standard 1/07

    #1853346
    Alfie07
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    The difference in stance between Sky and the PL is interesting. Clearly the message BLM is separate for many from the BLM political parties. It is an ideal.

    The fact Sky now refuse to wear BLM badges infers it was supporting the political party.

    PL may be trying to save face, or may always have supported the message and not the party.

    #1853481
    j c
    j c
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    If you wear the badge of a political activist movement, you are endorsing it. You are effectively marketing for them and helping them raise funds.

    Which will then be used to overthrow capitalism, spread insidious propaganda and sowing unrest in our streets during a time where tens of thousands are dying from a pandemic.

    They may not have been aware of BLMs goals, and may not have intended to endorse a political movement. But that’s neither here nor there. Endorsing them is exactly what they did. In fact, it was an unprecedented endorsement. Even the Premier League’s sponsors don’t get that kind of treatment.

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