Newcastle Saturday 3pm 19/10

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  • #1791362

    nine nine nine
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    Chelsea fans have chosen their starting eleven on Football London for this game but much depends on the injury situation and with international games still to be played tonight.

    Kepa

    Azpi
    Rudiger
    Tomori
    Emerson

    Kante
    Jorginho
    Mount

    Willian
    Abraham
    Hudson Odoi

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    aindro
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    Newcastle won against Spurs and against Man Utd. It won’t be a walk in the park. We need to be careful here not to lose points as we play at home. Hope that we will have Kanté and Christensen recovered. I think Rudiger won’t start but he may be on the bench. Emerson no idea, no recent news so far I googled.

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    A couple of stonking goals from Hudson Odoi last night once he gets fully match fit he could be a stand out player for both Chelsea and England.

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    aindro
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    From what I read this morning: Emerson won’t be risked against Newcastle but he will play against Ajax. Same as Rudiger, he wouldn’t be risked against Newcastle. Christensen is doubtful. We are really unlucky in term of injuries. So I guess my team would be as follows, not too far from what 999 wrote above but I would prefer 3-4-3 as it would suit us against their counter attacks :
    My team: Kepa – Azpi,Tomori,Zouma – James,Kanté,Jorginho,Alonso – Mount,Abraham,Willian

    CHO would be the first to enter from the bench in case we aren’t able to break their defense.

    #1791666

    nine nine nine
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    “Christensen has had a scan on a hamstring injury and is unlikely to feature. #Kante is doubtful too – has minor groin problem. #Kovacic suffered minor leg injury playing for Croatia but hope is he will be okay. #Emerson set to return for #cfc against Ajax next week.” Simon Johnson Evening Standard

    Johnson is close to Chelsea and usually fairly accurate.

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    chelsea1967
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    and he followed up with Reece James being fine for the weekend so, as you stated before 999 there is another mid-field option maybe.

    #1791707

    nine nine nine
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    67, Reece James looked very comfortable in a defensive midfield role in the game I saw him play there for Wigan in fact he was MOM and scored a screamer however if Kovacic is fit I suspect he might be the only change from the Southampton game assuming Kante is rested for the Ajax game.

    Subject to Kovacic/others fitness this is the line up I expect to see: Kepa, Azpilicueta, Tomori, Zouma, Alonso; Kovacic, Jorginho, Mount; Willian, Abraham, Hudson-Odoi.

    Without we go 3/4/3 which we may well do given how Newcastle are likely to set up which would see James come in at right wing back for Kovacic.

    Only thought from Frank might be whether he should play Barkley after his two goals v Bulgaria but selection wise that only really works in the 4/3/3 because I can’t see Mount not starting.

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    Amz
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    I doubt we will go 3-4-3, too defensive for a home game against a side that will sit deep.

    4-3-3 is our best formation, we need Mount in the middle for some form of creativity which we have lacked since Cesc left.

    #1791834

    nine nine nine
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    Hear what you say AMZ but 3/4/3 can be very attacking too offensively James, Mount, Jorginho, Alonso/ Willian,Abraham, Hudson Odoi in forward mode looks pretty attacking to me. All depends on injuries probably and of course the way Frank wants to play but like you I would be happy to see us go 4/3/3. Cheers 9’s

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    aindro
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    Amz & 999: I do think that 3-4-3 is way more attacking than 4-3-3, that’s why my preferred team against Newcastle would be 3-4-3. Azpi is limited in attack and bringing Reece James as a wing back would significantly improve our attack. 3-4-3 would also be suitable to anticipate their counter attack as we have 3 centre-backs and having Azpi there would be helfpul as he is agile and quick even though not necesarilly tall.

    I cannot see Mount not starting and Willian not starting. So probably it’s CHO who would be benched and I see it good as he could bring speed and creativity if we are blocked by Newcastle. They defended really good against Spurs.

    In term of injuries: just read that Kanté and Christensen are major doubts, even for the match against Ajax midweek next week.

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    If you guys are thinking fitting Hudson Odoi,Willian, Kovacic and Mount in the same team, then 3-4-3 formation is not the formation to use. because Hudson Odoi is a pure winger and that formation doesn’t have pure wingers. so i agree with Amz there. 4-3-3 is better. but i would still go for 4-2-3-1 formation. because the two wingers need to drag the 3 cbs Newcastle will likely deploy. which will give a space to Mount and Abraham. 4-2-3-1 is the only formation that can bring the best out of our attacking players.

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    Amz
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    We played 3-4-3 against Lille and we were pretty poor in attack.

    Playing 3-4-3 means that we have 3 CBs sitting when we have the ball and only 2 central midfielders. It’s not in Jorginho’s instinct to get forward either so we would lose his ability on the ball.

    We need more players involved in the offensive side, with attacking fullbacks (unfortunately Azpi isn’t that).

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    hyllested
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    I would like to see us playing 3-5-2. Kepa – Dave, Tomori, Zouma – james, Kovacic/Willian, jorginho, Mount, Alonso – Batshuayi, Abraham. Newcastle wouldn’t expect this, and we could really rattle them.

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    Indeed we rarely try 2 strikers. During pre-season, FL tried 4-4-2 diamond. But I can see that young_blue’s formation is interesting too, 4-2-3-1. Hopefully we will play well and win the game whatever formation FL chooses. We need these 3 points. I also am hoping a clean sheet as we rarely have one this season so far.

    #1791929

    nine nine nine
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    Good point young blue. All down to Frank now.

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    Amz
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    3-4-3 would work nicely against City. Let them have the ball out in the wings and cover the central areas and play on the counter attack. But that would mean dropping Jorginho and Mount, playing Kante and Kovacic as the 2 CMs who would just sit in that central area and rarely get forward. This would be leaving a front three of CHO Tammy and WIllian. Very pacey front three, perfect for the counter. We have City in just over a month.

    But for Newcastle we definitely need creative players like Mount and Jorg to control the tempo and switch of play to open up Newcastle

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    Luckydestiny
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    Amz when you look at it mate, no matter the formation, it is impossible to select a team without leaving out good players when everyone is fit.

    I do think there is some logic to a back 3 against direct countering teams like newcastle though, dont think any other team changed their formation to play wolves, and I dont see any other team that put 5 past them either.

    With a back 4 we leave ourselves just 2 players to cover counter attacks as the full backs push up, with a back 3 we are much less vulnerable and puts less pressure on Jorginho defensively.

    Newcastle play 523 effectively. If we play with a back 4 with fullbacks pushing on then any mistake by us when we are high up the field could result in a 3 vs 2 counter attack to the advantage of newcastle, Almiron and Maximim are mega quick in support of the striker. As Nine has pointed out (here or somewhere else) If newcastle are to score in this game it is most likely going to come from a counter or set piece, any adaptation to minimise their threat on the counter will be welcomed by me, as in open play I expect us to score against them, whether 433 or 3421.

    I wouldnt bee surprised at all to see us start with 3 centre backs. We can always change to 433 in last half hour if needs be when Newcastle start to tire.

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    aindro
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    Luckydestiny: Almiron hasn’t scored any goal so far in the Premiership. And we surely don’t want him to score his first goal against us. He is a talented player, not a finish article, but he is dangerous: quick and technical. They have Joelinton too, who does not seem to be a real goalscorer but so far I saw Newcastle: he is not bad, can cause danger in opposition’s defense.

    Main talking point however would be how we break their defense. They play so far IMO very defensive, the most defensive team in the Premiership so far this year methink. I think technical players like Willian and Mount who can shoot from outside the box and of course a goalscorer like Abraham is needed. Hence I tend to start CHO from the bench in case we need more speed. Also very attacking full backs like Reece James and Alonso would be handful. But I cannot see FL will bench our captain Azpi. Hence my formation 3-4-3 suggested earlier above. For me the key here would be scoring early. If we score early, they don’t have any choice than to open up and we would pounce again with our 2nd goal to kill the game. Just hoping 🙂

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    Luckydestiny
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    The positive to take Aindro is that Wolves are a better team with better defenders man for man who play a similar system, and we scored 5 from open play. I am fairly confident about this one as long as we are solid when they break.

    P.s

    Footy

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