Next Chelsea Manager Odds.

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  • #1759463
    BlueLion
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    RDP, it wasn’t just the two defeats though mate. It was more his refusal to play Kante in his best position (at which he is the best in the world); his refusal to play CHO until fan pressure (and possibly board) forced his hand – and then he was the best player on the pitch (same can be said for RLC); his continual like-for-like substitutions, particularly his rotation of Kovacic and Barkley; his uninspiring preferred midfield three of Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic which offered nothing creatively; his sleep-inducing, slow build-up football and his complete inability to form any kind of bond with the players or fans or any kind of team spirit or unity.

    Did the fans get on his back too soon, and would Sarri-ball have prevailed in the long run, if given a chance? We’ll never know now. Maybe we’ve shot ourselves in the foot again. But, given all the points above, I think it’s unlikely. I’ve no doubt Sarri is a good manager and I wish him every success at Juventus, but whether he was right for Chelsea or the premier league, I have my doubts.

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    nine nine nine
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    Roman, you can’t put spilt milk back in the bottle mate and whilet I was in favour of giving Sarri next season hand on heart I’m not sure that Sarri was the right fit and I think both the Board and the players felt that too as well as the match going fans.

    But we are where we are buddie if we appoint Frank I think he will be given time I hope so anyway and I agree with you we have to be looking to be a bit more long term. I think appointing Cech as TD might help there too.

    #1759484
    aindro
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    Ole Gunnar IMO is not a success at Man Utd. Nonetheless fans seem to still be backing him. He was a popular figure as a player and that helps his tenure as a manager so far. We do hope Lampard will be a popular manager too with us. Of course the result cannot be too bad in order to be popular and to be liked. Sarri brought trophy for us but his stubbornness is not popular with the fans. To play the best DM in the world as an AM: I think it’s a mistake. Can Lampard replicate Sarri’s success to bring us in the top 4 again? Honestly I am not sure. He has very little experience. But his passion and his love to the club I think will compensate his lack of experience. He has to learn quickly

    #1759486

    nine nine nine
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    Hazard apart whose been replaced by Pulisic anyway it’s the same squad of players that finished 3rd got to two Cup Finals winning one and drawing the other let’s not lose sight of the strength and unity in the squad which imo the appointment of Frank and Jody will only enhance.

    The fans will be behind both of them from the start and I think that both the Club and the fans will give them time to build even if we get night some disappointing results.

    I suspect Roman and the Board think it’s time now to set the reset button at Chelsea especially given the current circumstances even if we finish outside of the top 4 this Season if we can introduce more of our best young players into the squad and team and get a seasons development out of them next Summer when the ban is lifted with sales to date in this window we’ll be sitting on over £150m which the Club will be able to add to next Summer.

    #1759491
    Romansdirtypants
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    9’s… managers come and go. To be expected. But Palmbs sums it up well, a manager a season. I dont care about the quality of players, we’ve a squad ageing and approaching decline, I think it had set in with Eden tbh. Spain will give him a few more seasons in the tank.

    Its just the conintuity. I said all along with Conte at the club why were we signing players like Giroud, Zappacosta, Bakayoko when we had RLC a year younger who excelled at palace and forced his way into the England set up. We’ve now presumably been lumbered with Jorginho, who will have to adapt his game or move on. Most likely to city.

    Id take Ranieri back to rebuild this side as im on record as saying. I think he’d make a better DOF than Chech to be honest.

    Either way. We reset once more this summer, lets see where we are this time next year and if we still have the same manager in charge, which, even with Frank Lampard, is probably 50/50 right now if he signs tomorrow.

    #1759496
    chelsea1967
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    Bring it on, can’t wait for the new season already.

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    I don’t think this thing about Frank not having experience holds. Think back to a few years ago, when we had a heap of good player managers like Hoddle, Gullit, and Vialli. All achieved and none of them had managed before. On top of that, they were having to play as players at the same time. Frank effectively has heaps of experience in the game itself like the aforementioned. He is worked with so many top managers and been subjected to their training methods, motivational methods and tactics. And he had played at the top level. That is real experience. Certainly Frank knows more about the game and what it is like being in a pressure cooker than Sarri has ever had. Sarri was never the right fit for us and he worked that out for himself, which is why he is leaving. You cannot play just the game one way. The game is tactical and your play needs to be adapted according to how th game is going and who your opponents are. I have said before, that is what brought Jose his success. We used to witness how Jose adapted his game and how he achieved success. From what I have seen, Frank was doing that at Derby. On top of this, Jody has coached at the top level, albeit with the youth players. Jody is Chelsea and he is a winner and motivator. He knows our young players and no doubt they know him and will respond to him.
    The sooner we get Frank and Jody in the better. I couldn’t have taken another season of Sarri in charge, and I am glad he is going. The opposition had him worked out, and he was never going to change or move from the way he wants to play. Hit was Sarri that was inexperienced – Not Frank. This new appointment will deliver experience

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    Romansdirtypants
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    Chris, different era’s but I hear what you’re saying. Back when we had hoddle, Gullit and Vialli, we were a cup team. The only two domestic forces in the league at that time were Manchester United /Arsenal. Blackburn had spent big to win back then too. Liverpool had the spice boys and white line cokehead celebration fowler.

    There have been few player managers in the top tier since. The game has moved on to new levels of spending and more importantly coaching.

    As a fan, how much time are you willing to give Frank Lampard and Jody Morris at the club as and when we go through a blip in form/ get knocked out of cups or struggle to qualify for CL football as we have for the past two seasons? What happens if we dont qualify for the champions league and finish outside the top 4, will you want Lampard to continue then?

    I think its a fair question given we now have between one or two managers a season setting the team up. If “fans favourite” Lampard chooses to stay at Derby, who will fans be happy seeing lead the club and how much time will they be afforded by the club before they start getting on the team and managers back? The club need to buck its ideas up about recruitment and retention of staff, the players need to look at themselves given whats emerged from the dressing room since the Europa league win, and us fans need a massive reality check to boot.

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    Roman, for me I want them winning, but that is not the be all. If Frank doesn’t win anything then as long as we see good team spirit, good football and giving things a fair go, then that will do for me. You can’t win all the time. Sarri was naive to think you can get away with playing one style of football in the premier league. It worked at first, but as soon as Spurs worked us out, then we were in trouble and like I have said before, he was not going to change. Most of the time the football was boring and it was plain to see that very little tactical thought was being applied. 60 minute mark and then a bit later, one of the midfielders would be swapped and two of the attacking players. It was so predictable, and the game pattern was the same no matter how the opposition were playing, what they were doing or what the score was. Very frustrating and lack of experience

    #1759558
    chelsea1967
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    the one that got me was when we were losing to United in the FA cup with less than 10 minutes left and he brought on a defender. The commentator was lost for words. With me it was just a disbelieving sideways nod of the head.

    Anyway credit to him and his players for the end result of 3rd in the table and winning the Europa League and now we can move on. I will be an interested spectator re Juventus next season that will be for sure as Sarri will be expected to win the title for them yet again and he will need to start from scratch with the squad he inherits there. Maybe he will take his mates Jorginho and Higuain with him and he can have Kovacic too. Hopefully Ronaldo will show a little respect. Real Madrid will also be viewed more regularly than in the past.

    #1759578

    Chris451
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    67 Sarri managing Ronaldo, now that will be interesting

    #1759613

    Chris451
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    Another thing, Hazard made a big thing about wanting to play for his childhood hero Zidane. In other words Zidane acted like a magnet to lure Hazard. It was the same when we had Hoddle, Gullit and Vialli as our managers. They attracted great players to come and play for them. I believe Frank will do the same once this ban is over. Players respect working under players that have been there and achieved at the top level. They have lived in the real world. That was not the case with Sarri. Sarri is more like a fantasy football manager who was out of his depth coaching and attracting top players in the premier league.

    #1759614
    chelsea1967
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    an article which put Sarri’s stay into perspective and also what Lampard has to do on arrival (assuming he becomes manager)

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/9299121/maurizio-sarri-cigarettes-juventus-chelsea-fans-strops-goodbye/

    #1759616

    nine nine nine
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    If Chelsea offer Frank the job I’m pretty sure he will leave Derby and join Chelsea the pull of managing Chelsea will probably be too great for him to turn down although it may have come a bit earlier than either he or the Club would have planned.

    As far as the fans are concerned and I’m talking about the match going fans rather than those who post on social media they will imo give Frank time and patience.

    Most sensible Chelsea fans know that what is required at Chelsea now is a rebuilding process which won’t be achieved in a season and it’s definitely not about competing with City and Liverpool for the title currently.

    Next season is a free hit for Frank and is much more about integrating our best young prospects into the squad and team than anything else, of course we would all like to think we can achieve a CL place of win a domestic Cup but the latter are far less important than the former.

    Chelsea need a medium to long term plan on the football side of the Club now which means someone at Board level that understands the Club and football which is hopefully where big Pete comes in because as a Club we have to get away from the constant short term fixes with designer Manager appointments. Particularly as FFP governs our spending now and we have to predominantly sell to buy.

    Palmeab one of the most respected and knowledgeable posters on this site who sadly can’t post on here regularly now due to heath reasons has long called for the appointment of a football man with gravitas to the Board and for our most exciting youngsters to be given a proper chance to develop in the first team as they did in the past that’s what we’ll be getting with the appointment of Cech to Technical Director and Frank and Jody as a management team.

    Hopefully Frank and Jody’s appointment can be confirmed next week once Sarri is announced as Juve Manager and Cech’s will be confirmed as soon as his contract with Arsenal expires at the end of the month.

    #1759627
    Blaze
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    Frank Lampard has agreed to become Chelsea’s new manager following a phone call with the club’s owner Roman Abramovich. This is according to Sunday Times journalist Duncan Castles, who reveals the two men spoke over the phone. During that conversation, Lampard was assured by Abramovich that he will have at least two seasons to prove his worth?

    #1759693
    aindro
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    Now that Sarri has officially left, hope that we follow that with an announcement of our new manager. We have to prepare for our new season. We cannot delay it anymore

    #1759700

    nine nine nine
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    Now Sarri has officially joined Juventus we are in a position to appoint Frank and Jody. It couldn’t be done before in case the Sarri move collapsed.

    #1759701
    Luckydestiny
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    The sooner the appointment is made the better. I would love it to be lamps. Would also welcome rafa with open arms despite what others may think about him. He is a better manager now than he has ever been having to manage that awful newcastle team.

    #1759752

    Chris451
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    The board would not be that foolish to choose Benitez again. I think some of you have short memories. All odds say it is Frank, which I think will take us forward. No better way to get Stamford Bridge rocking again, after Sarri lulled it into a deep sleep. I expect the there will be no looking back, and some dynamic football

    #1759755
    Stuilse
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    Ome small but massively significant detail that all of u have yet to mention about Lamps is his footballing brain, insanely high level of IQ and his intelligence. Frank might not have nearly as much direct experience in managing a football club but he’s everything else as well as the ability to perform under massive levels of pressure at the highest level. Frank certainly wont be out of his depth at Chelsea…especially with Jody Morris alongside him.

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