No clean sheets in the last 11 games… concerning?

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    AK
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    Its hard to score 2 or 3 goals every game and at some point not keeping a clean sheet was going to hurt us.

    How concerned are you guys at the lack of clean sheets & can any body put the finger on why we keep conceding. (Please dont say Lovren as hes been solid for the most part)

    #1802917

    Sean the sailor
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    We aren’t conceding to many chances but we are letting goals in

    We are still defending some situations well. High line cost us last night and villa away but we usually play that very well

    I can’t remember Alison having to make to many saves since he came back

    Performances are a bit concerning as the last two have been very flatL and utd and villa. We are coming into a lot of games now and the squad needs to be used

    We are absolutely flying. We just need to get o keep going

    Fabhino
    Could be a massive loss

    Salah is so inconsistent at the minute aswell, maybe it’s the injury

    #1802936

    gingerlfc
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    It is slightly concerning but would be much more so if we weren’t winning mostly.
    A comfortable 2-0 win would be welcomed.
    I think perhaps not having a settled back 4 and keeper might be an issue. Allison isn’t that long back. VVD doesn’t have a settled partner and we’ve been changing the fullbacks occasionally too.

    #1803003

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    Perfect game to draw, we can reset the counter now. When Firmino scored against Palace Lee Dixon was saying that Liverpool players are experienced enough to manage the game by themselves and do not have to wait for substitutions by Klopp and he’s not far off the mark. I would guess we are not blowing teams apart because the players know it’s a marathon and are just intent on getting the three points.

    Leicester have kept four clean sheet recently that’s why I think they will be the one chasing us. However we outscored them when we met and that is all that matters. Over analysing to determine why we are not keeping clean sheets might be detrimental for the future as I’m a believer in the saying – don’t try to mend something which isn’t broken.

    #1803006

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    I’m a bit concerned but then again I’m not because we have to be able to improve on that right? For the most part the goals conceded have been lapses of concentration, bad luck like yesterday and set-pieces… Its not like we are making the same mistake over and over again or that we are getting overrun in midfield, its mostly individual errors that are happening.

    #1803029
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    Apart from the city game, we’ve not really played defensive a lot. At some stages against Napoli last night we had one man, VVD, on his own at the back.

    It does leave us vulnerable, but I’m not all that worried. Because the extra bodies further up the pitch is a net positive.

    Sure, we shouldn’t play like that if we’re one goal up with 10 minutes to go. But I’m ok with taking risks to get the results we want.

    #1803114

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    It is concerning comaped to last season when we kept a lot of clean sheets. Bedisdes we can not and do not score 3-4 goals every game to be as much certain as we can…

    #1803117

    gingerlfc
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    JC I don’t think we played particularly defensive last year either but still managed to put together an impressive amount of clean sheets along with scoring plenty too.
    Even if we are more attacking this season the lack of clean sheets is very strange. I’d still expect to keep more than we have.
    It’s a strange situation alright.

    No Fabinho this week home to Brighton who havnt been good but I still expect a clean sheet.
    Then home to Everton midweek, who again havnt been good, no reason not to expect a clean sheet also. As we know expectations and reality are 2 different things.

    #1803337

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    Clean sheets are overrated imo. It is often used in conjunction with the term – winning matches comfortably, which is supposed to indicate that a team is on a good run, but City beat Watford 8-0, then Everton 3-1 at Goodison, indicating that they were on course to a 10 successive win streak, but they then lost 2-0 at the Etihad against Wolves.

    The result of one match or a succession of matches has no bearing on the result of the next match. The goals we are conceding might also keep the defence on their toes and make VVD and co avoid complacency.

    #1803344

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    I don’t see how not conceding goals can be over rated.
    It’s literally 1 of the 2 most basic, fundamental tenets of football.
    The other being scoring goals.

    #1803350
    j c
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    Last season, for a while at least, we were soaking up pressure a bit more and weren’t pressing high up the pitch as much as we are now.

    I remember about half way through the season, last year, stats coming out about our pressing being less than usual.

    So the tactics have evolved a bit.

    #1803427

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    What I meant is that it’s preferable to win 3 matches with no clean sheet, rather than winning 2 by 3-0 and losing the third one. If a team wins 3 matches it means they have outscored the opponent every time. But pundits and fans will insert a caveat into those wins, which I consider to be nitpicking.

    #1804031
    AK
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    I dont think anyone one would deny that winning is more important then a clean sheet but at some point we wont be able to score 2 or 3 goals in a game at that point our teams confidence in keeping a clean sheet would be low simply becus they haven’t managed to do that in the last dozen games.
    Let me paint a scenario on Wednesday we are 1-0 up with 10 mins to go how confident will the fans & players be that we can see the game out? Nerves will defo kick in.

    #1804095

    Sean the sailor
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    I was nervous after 65 mins on Saturday AK as Brighton we’re having far to much of the ball and we weren’t creating much. Last ten mins was horrendous

    We need to start keeping clean sheets and quickly. The last 5 mins of games recently have been very nerve racking 😂

    #1804106

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    What matters more, clean sheets or 3 points?

    While it would be good to keep clean sheets, or secure the game earlier, as long as we keep winning, that is what matters most.

    Now let’s beat Everton on Wednesday, clean sheet or not

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    gingerlfc
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    It’s easier to get 3 points with clean sheets.

    #1804158

    Sean the sailor
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    Songman winning is always better chum but we should be coasting some games. The crazy thing is we can play so much better.

    We have actually defended well this season but their goal was absolutely Shambolic

    They played it long from just outside their box and a few people were in no mans land

    #1804202

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    AK : Everton might well peg us back on Wed, but it could also happen even if we’d kept five clean sheets this season.

    What Klopp and the players are intent now is to reduce the number of draws which cost us the league last time round. By taking more risks than last season they are putting more pressure on our opponents, who crack eventually, near the end many times, ensuring there is no coming back as they are ko’d with a few seconds left.

    Many fans and pundits are claiming we are lucky but it would be ludicrous to think that one of, or even the best manager in world football with so much talent at his disposal is relying on luck to win games. Many commentators who have played at the highest level point out that even if there is three minutes left there is no need to panic and lump the ball forward for the team who wants to score, as three minutes is more than enough to get a goal. As I said above with relentless pressure on them for ninety minutes teams panic in the last stages and concede.

    IMO trying to get clean sheets first and foremost would increase the number of draws, there were three goalless matches for us in 18/19.

    #1804206

    gingerlfc
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    Don’t think anyone’s suggesting keeping clean sheets “first and foremost”.
    Think it’s more to cut out these cheap goals which are stopping the clean sheets.

    #1804207

    Sean the sailor
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    Exactly ginger

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