PL manager of the season

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    the specialone
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    I’d really like for someone to explain me what exactly is the criteria to be named manager of the season.Because to see Guardiola win it again is a bit of a farce.You’re talking about a manager who has a blank chequebook to an already capable squad.Sure getting 98 points is very impressive but it’s not the toughest when you by far have the best squad in the PL.

    You know what else is impressive,for a manager to make his club finish on 97 points and still not win the PL.Klopp has two golden boot winners from his team,he’s made his team defensively rock solid and also has the most clean sheets this season(probably ever if I’m correct) and I just realised his team have lost just once in the PL to the champions ofcourse and it happened because of that goal line clearence of stones whhich was a matter of inches.
    I’m sorry,but for me Klopp has done a far more impressive job(don’t want to take anything away from Guardiola) but there are just certain facts that I laid out that you can’t deny.

    Another manager who deserves a mention is Nuno gomez.To make a promoted side get a europa league place and also their record against top sides has been very impressive to say the least.

    But for me Klopp has been exceptional.It though just says how much trophies matter while giving these awards.

    #1752099
    Narthraal
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    Agreed!

    Klopp has actually built this magnificent team through fabulous recruitments and sales and without any oil money to help. While Guardiola, like you rightly said, is just a blank chequebook manager.

    Id like to see him do the same with same budget Klopp has had.

    #1752117
    the specialone
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    To be quite frank mate,I don’t really care about how much each team has gross spent.What I care about is net spend,because then the managers also get credit for showcasing the talent of their players so well that their club was able to spend them for that much amount.

    Accroding to
    https://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

    Liverpool’s net spend stands at a mere 159m whereas City’s is at 505m.That’s almost a 350m difference.Granted this is a bit before both guardiola and klopp took over,nonetheless it’s how much thier clubs have spent.Give klopp that extra 350m to spend in the upcoming transfer window and i guarantee he’d win the title over Guardiola.

    Also,It’s about time city were investigated for breaching ffp rules.It’s all a farce.Clearly the FA aren’t going to do anything so maybe the UEFA will.

    #1752140

    NOLU
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    Posts like this make me laugh – anyone who just thinks Pep is a cheque book manager is deluded. Let’s be fair, he takes great players and makes them better. Liverpool finished along way behind City last season so Klopp breaks the British transfer record for a Defender and the world record for a goal keeper. Nothing wrong with either of those things but lets remember he is hardly on a restricted budget. Wolves have hardly been shy in the transfer market either. Back to Pep, yes of course having a open cheque book helps but I honestly think whoever he took over he would improve them no end.

    #1752147
    the specialone
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    NOLU – This is a debate on PL manager for the season that just finished.No one said pep is a chequebook manager.He’s a great manager who certainly imporves teams and players he coaches.But we’ll never know how good he actually is.Is he the greatest manager ever?There’s nothing to suggest that.In literally every year that he’s managed,he’s had the best squad in the country,one of the best in europe along with the power to sign who he wants.So If he’s won so many domestic trophies,it was not the toughest job in the world.He still has won only CL with barcelona because they had messi,xavi,iniesta.Listen,I’m not taking credit away from what a great manager guardiola is.But I’d like to see him manage maybe An Arsenal and make them win the title with the budgetary restrictions and lack of squad depth.If he does that,kudos to him.

    Also,last season due to the facts I mentioned Klopp has been better than Guardiola.Just because guardiola beats Klopp to the title by one point it dosen’t mean he should win it.

    #1752150
    steveosnakeeye
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    city had an open cheque book long before Pep and wasted huge amounts of oil money to achieve relatively little, the same happened with chelsea until they got Maureen on board the first time and now united who previously have paid the most in transfers and wages and can still go toe to toe are now crap…

    money IS important but ONLY if it is spent wisely

    as for Pep he is the one manager that does actually seem to improve players he buys even if they are already “stars”…….and its not just about buying players who only come for the cash like the early days (Robhinio?)….

    would Klopp have improved Stirling as he has improved since joining Pep? i honestly dont think so

    what Klopp has achieved (trophies aside) is amazing and deserves credit but doesnt mean credit should be taken from city or pep

    if they breached rules then they should face the right punishment but at the end of the day they are not the first and wont be the last

    if Arsenal had gotten Usminov in instead of Kronke we would have likely been in this position and our fans wouldnt be saying this but enjoying winning and competing!

    #1752163

    mufc
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    Rafa is in for a shout.

    #1752172
    steveosnakeeye
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    its a strnage one if you do try to look objectively, Rafa is actually a good shout, Poch, Emery (for being first season straight after long term AW), Sarri, all his issues with his own fans the bloke got 3rd (Above the spuds!) 2 finals being beaten in one by the best team in the league and in the other by the best team in London 😉
    id give it to Hughton 🙂

    #1752225

    captkirk
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    I’m not sure that Sterling’s improvement is only due to Pep. Maybe it’s the natural course for a talented player to play better when he is twenty than when he was eighteen, provided he puts the necessary effort in training and has the right mindset during the whole of the season.

    #1752231
    Narthraal
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    No one said pep is a chequebook manager.

    Well I did, cause he literally has never managed a team that doesnt have a blank cheque. So there is no disillusion here. Anyone who says he isnt is deluded cause the facts speak for themselfs.

    But I never said he wasnt a great manager, cause he is. But I dont think he is better than Klopp.

    #1752232
    macattack
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    It’s between klopp and poch for me. The winner of the CL grabs it.

    #1752265

    Kingo
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    When City win the CL with neutral refs, that’s when Pep will have proved himself.

    #1752370
    the specialone
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    Pep winning the CL with any and all clubs he’s managed throughout his career isn’t the toughest job.Like I said,he’s had the best squads.I’d like to see him take on new challenges though.No one’s denying he’s a great manager and most of all a winner but all I’m saying is he’s never had to do an impossible job.

    I hope he moves on from man city and takes on a new challenge.Not necessarily at club level.He’s clearly not going to go to take over a top4 club obviously if he can get the ones that compete for titles.So maybe go international.

    Though for me there is nothing to suggest He’s easily the greatest manager even in the PL at the moment.The quality of managers is fantastic and the all English European finals prove it.It’s all down to opinion but it would be between Guardiola and Klopp for me,with Poch not far behind as the best manager in the PL maybe europe.

    #1752439

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    Poorly researched post. Who is Nuno Gomez? You are not correct about the clean sheets. That record is Chelsea 2004/2005. They have won the league, League cup and will probably win the FA cup. They have money and have spent it wisely. Although the only player that they have bought this year really and who has come into the already brilliant team is Mahrez and he has not played that much. The way they play football is spell-bounding and this is down to Pep.

    Also, if getting 98 points is that easy, why did none of the Man United teams of the past get anywhere near that amount of points? This is the best Premier league team we have ever seen and will dominate for years to come. This, again is all down to Pep.

    #1752440

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    Take on a new challenge?? The City job was a MASSIVE challenge! They were nowhere near the title when Pep game in. You can’t get much more of a challenge coming from Barca and Bayern to the Prem with a team who were underachieving!

    #1752571

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    I assume you are taking the p1ss Tugay. City were relegation fodder when the Argentine took over? And SpecialOne, you are missing the point. Pep has won the CL with Barcelona. The organisers of the CL like Barcelona or Real to win it. Man City don’t get any favours. In domestic competitions, they get given everything. Their football isn’t spell bounding, nor even spell binding. They are a decent side, but they will never win a trophy like the CL, because they don’t get every decision in their favour to make sure they do. Can you really not see it? Do you really believe the bullsh1t you are fed by the likes of Shearer?I say this not from a partisan rival’s position, but from the position only of a fan of a team that was such crup tonight that it couldn’t beat Sunderland, the only joy in watching Man City play is in watching Sterling go down in a CL match, and the total incomprehension on his face when he doesn’t get the free kick.

    #1752705

    Tugayisgod
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    Haha what another ridiculous post. yeah the only reason Man City win anything is because refs give them all the decisions… Listen to yourself. Grow up. And if you think that they are just a “decent” side then football is not the game for you.

    #1752737

    Personally I think Nuno deserves the award, simply because of the fact that he managed to take a promoted team to 7th and managed to beat many of the Top 6 clubs or run them close.

    Both Guardiola and Klopp deserve a lot of credit for what they did to their teams over a number of years but most of the work was actually done last year: Man City were actually better last year results wise and haven’t changed much, despite the money spent on Laporte and Mahrez in the last few windows (which, in reality, were totally unnecessary but they still got them because they want to have world class players on their bench too).

    As for Klopp and Liverpool, anyone could’ve seen that they were going to be title contenders this year after their run to the CL final last year and that, once they brought in a CB and GK to fix those positions, they were gonna be a top team. They spent some 150m on two players and it worked out, which Klopp deserves credit for; and in any other season he would probably be Manager of the Season. But Nuno deserves it more in my opinion.

    Cheers

    #1752942

    theMartial Art
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    Pep led his team to treble and you suggest Klopp for the award. Ha ha… this is the funniest thing I’ve read in a while. Guardiola deserved it, considering everyone had written off City’s chances of retaining the title at the start of Feb to being at the top by a point at the end of the season…. easy the greatest manager of the modern era and City are lucky to have him.

    #1752991

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    PEP, POCH, KLOPP all this 3 are top manager. LFC were declined before KLOPP came in, and LFC is a much tougher job to revive from what they are now.I rate KLOPP slightly above this 2 manager. Let not talk about MC, If you compared SPURS and LFC 4 yrs ago spurs squad are better. You’ll can say POCH didn’t spend much but LFC spending are all from Coutinho sales. If LFC have LLORIS, and TOBY/VERTONGHEN I’m sure KLopp will not splash out the cash. The problem is that LFC just don’t have this kind of quality players 4 years ago but yet KLOPP get LFC to 2 cups final. Yes he didn’t won, but for him to take a mediocre team to 2 final at that stage I think he deserved some credit. Last season CL final, MU,MC,PSG can even get to final and yet KLOPP did it. Rival fans will say KLOPP is FLOP, but for him to make a mediocre team to play like a world class team not everyone can do it. A real football fans will know what this man has done. Sometimes you need a genius to understand.

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