Pogba

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    united_we_win
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    If anyone doubted this guys quality watch him play for France ,under the right manager he is excelling; brilliant free kick!

    I’m sorry but we need to build around pogba Jose hasn’t a clue! I worry I really do. Pogba Sanchez martial rashford lukaku should be blitzing teams!

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    How about Laurent Blanc at Old Trafford? Is not contracted to anyone, has had a good managerial career so far (won league titles with multiple clubs, including Bordeaux in France and 3 leagues in a row with PSG), knows Man United and what will be expected having played there for a season, plays an attacking-style of football, will get the best out of our French players as well as Lukaku who is also a French speaker (and he also knows English so will have no issues with communication), has contacts with the French National team and PSG which may help to attract a few players from there…

    To be honest – he looks an absolutely perfect fit!

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    I wonder why he hasn’t managed another club since leaving PSG nearly two years ago?

    🤔

    #1617123
    hatters
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    I don’t see how scoring a freekick in a meaningless friendly has anything to do with Mourinho’s management.

    Fact is Pogba lacks bottle and has more haircuts than appearances for Manchester United this season.

    Mourinho has nothing to do with Pogba jogging around in intense Premier League games nor does he have anything to do with his careless passing and complete lack of focus.

    All the talent in the world and none of the application. Perhaps all football games should be friendlies or exhibition games so we can see the best of Pogba.

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    Give it Giggsy till end of the season.

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    MacGuffin
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    I’m sure Giggs will have enhanced his credentials as manager of the Welsh team …

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    @hatters – Mourinho has absolutely nothing to do with Pogba yesterday (obviously) however he does have what to do with bringing the best out of him at United – be it in the position he plays him, the formation and style the team plays with in general or in the motivation given to the individual. At this point in time I’d say Mourinho is failing in all three.

    I’m not against Mourinho being the coach of United so long as he’s successful, however I have a feeling we have seen the best of him come and go already at United; the “team” he’s building is just a group of overhyped mercenaries (as hard as it is for me to admit) and not only that, the football we are playing these days is dire too. Would Blanc bring in a new mentality / motivation? I wouldn’t bet against it seeing that he had both Bordeaux and PSG playing some lovely stuff when he was manager there.

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    I have my doubts about Pogba and his lifestyle/attitude but I have no doubts about his ability. The style of football being played is entirely down to the manager and he is clearly not getting the best out of his attacking players because of this. Jose will get another year, spend a shit load of money in the summer and then probably hang himself when the club realise he just doesn’t want to or doesn’t know how to produce the type of football all this investment deserves. Don’t forget, City may have spent more money but they haven’t come close to spending the amount of money we’ve spent on individuals like Pogba, ADM, Lukaku and eventually Sanchez.

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    hatters
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    @sympathy. Please explain to me how tactics are to blame for Pogba jogging around the pitch and ball watching when we aren’t in possession?

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    redblood
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    No way should Blanc be considered.Much rather Sarri,Simeone,or even Conte if he leaves Chelsea.

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    united_we_win
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    Utter garbage hatters and you know it! Pogba excelled at juve and continuously does so for France; the managers didnt/don’t complain about his ball
    Skills ?Don’t give me the friendly BS! I just gave one example!

    In fact I’ll ask you a question name me one player excelling under joses management?

    I supported his appointment more than anyone but good grief the football is mind numbing! There is still time for him to change but pogba over him any day !

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    united_we_win
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    * Kdb salah etc are two perfect examples of why I choose pogba over Jose.

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    Who was pogba’s coach at Juve?, Conte. If he leaves Chelsea, I think we should head down that route (again). Would love to see Simeone, however, Conte always got the best out of Pogba in Italy, maybe he could bring that Pogba back.

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    @hatters – Pogba has played in a 3-man midfield for most of his career, so his workload has never been one where he has needed to cover a high amount of ground as he would in a 2-man midfield; he always had the backing of other midfielders and didn’t have to do as much dirty work in the midfield. At United, Mourinho keeps pushing for him to play in a 2-man midfield to accommodate a player in the No.10 role at United which doesn’t work for us as our central areas are completely suffocated (since our wingers are inside forwards rather than pure wingers). If we moved to a 3-man midfield we’ll see much better player from Pogba and the team and I think we will also see Pogba do his defensive duties much better because he would only need to provide 33% of the midfield defensive duties rather than 50%.

    That’s my take on it anyway. Cheers

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    @united we win & @sympathy. I don’t care what formation Pogba plays in. A footballer who wants to win football matches doesn’t watch the ball and jog around when his team doesn’t have possession. A footballer like this shouldn’t have teams built around him because he is unreliable and not willing to do the hard yards for the rest of the team.

    It’s bullshit and I won’t stand for it. Pogba is a lazy show off. He shines in useless games and moments; he disappears when we need leaders. He was clearly being carried by Pirlo and Vidal at Juventus. I defended him to the hilt at first but I will no longer do so. You lot can disagree but that’s a matter of opinion.

    Simple as that.

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    @united80. Who coached Ronaldo at Sporting Lisbon? Who coached Messi over the last 10 years?

    You are creating excuses for a liability of a footballer. A proper football player should perform regardless of conditions, tactics, or position. You are insinuating that we should recruit coaches who suit Pogba. That’s bollocks in my opinion.

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    Wonderfuel Gas
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    From what I have read, Didier Deschamps and the French camp have very similar reservations about Pogba and how to play him that Mourinho has. He was on the bench for their other friendly against Colombia and he is far from a guaranteed starter.

    I’ve mentioned it before, but when we signed Pogba a Juventus fan said something very telling to me. “I hope you have also bought him two big brothers.”

    His talent is never in question, but his mental application most certainly is. That has been evident during his time in United’s youth teams, at Juventus, with France and on his return to Old Trafford.

    I’m tempted to say a leopard doesn’t change his spots but that might give him an idea for his next haircut.

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    roygbiv
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    As much as I’m fed up with Jose, I would never go as far as solely blaming him for Pogba’s form, or lack thereof. Pogba obviously doesn’t like playing for Mourinho BUT he has to take responsibility himself if he ever wants to be considered a top footballer. If he wants to be a leader, a talisman, a legend…you name it, he has to stand up to be counted, put in the workload and show that he actually cares. He may come across as someone with a big personality but he’ll have to prove that he is a big character as well – a big player in a big team. Not just a big star on social media with no brains or balls. There are enough of those out there. Time to man up and prove what all the fuss is about.

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    Agree with @hatters on this pogba debate. Can someone tell us what pogba contributed against columbia few days before the Russia game. Pogba doesn’t have a problem playing against players of same standard as the Russian national team but as soon as he comes up against good footballers in the midfield he looks los like as little kid. Dugarry had a go recently and with his ability there should be no debate he should be running games. Pogba’s record for man utd is actually better than his at Juventus. It’s ok playing for easily the best team in the country alongside pirlo and vidal when the at detention is not on you all the time. The fact is pogba is expected to be our main man and he can’t handle the resposnsibility, he’s immature and doesn’t work hard enough. More than anything it’s pogba who needs to change.

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    MacGuffin
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    I agree with hatters also. A great or potentially great player has a passion for the game. His fault is, he’s looking to have the ball all the time. Keano running box to box, Bestie hogging the ball, Ronaldo dribbling when he should pass.

    If the right manager is needed to motivate a player then something is fundamentally wrong. Either the player doesn’t have the talent or he has a gripe and is taking industrial action.

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