July 12, 2022 at 4:53 pm #2113309
How about this then?
The fans got their tickets cheap as they got to see the whole squad play today and not just a select few.
Yup, just as ridiculous as saying that the fans get to dictate how mins the players get to play.July 12, 2022 at 4:56 pm #2113312
Today’s game may be a write-off, but with Klopp and the squad’s winning mentality in EVERY game, don’t expect many more losses, even in pre-season.July 12, 2022 at 5:12 pm #2113321
Rob Fort Worth TXParticipant
It’s true tho reds isn’t it? Tiddly winks, hopscotch, kerby, British Bulldog, and they still would have bought tickets regardless of price and bought them on their brand spanking new, 65k Thai Baht Iphones to boot. They wouldn’t have cared bloody less. The names Liverpool and Man United are in town and that’s enough.July 12, 2022 at 6:34 pm #2113339
Rob: £100 is a lot of money for the average Thai so at the very least we put up a decent line-up. I am not expecting Klopp to play our full strength 11.July 12, 2022 at 6:37 pm #2113340
For a lot of them its the only opportunity to see the players in the flesh so yes..its trueJuly 12, 2022 at 7:01 pm #2113350
Players that played today…
Allison, Trent, Matip, VVD, Konate, Robbo, Milner, Hendo, Fabinho, Thiago, Kieta, Nunez, Diaz, Carvalho, Salah, Firmino
Not only did the crowd get to see our first choice XI but they got to see so much more on top of that.July 12, 2022 at 7:08 pm #2113353
And how many minutes did each of them play? I am not expecting 90 minutes but 45 minutes from some of them.July 12, 2022 at 7:32 pm #2113357
Each played 30 apart from Allison.
He played 45.
Fans don’t get to dictate how many mins players get to play.
To suggest otherwise is frankly ridiculous.July 12, 2022 at 8:35 pm #2113371
Palace are severely depleted for Friday’s clash (for various reasons), let’s thrash them to get some goals out of our system.July 12, 2022 at 8:41 pm #2113375
No respect for the fans who paid to see our team…
The only reason for this match was the money and nothing else…July 12, 2022 at 8:43 pm #2113377
Penny starting to drop for someJuly 12, 2022 at 8:55 pm #2113383
Of course it’s a money making exercise, remember the times when players and managers complained about too many games? Well why else are we now playing these silly tournaments in pre-season £££££££!
Also does this not make a mockery of the rivalry we have with Utd, playing dumb rubber games against them cheapens the game.July 12, 2022 at 8:58 pm #2113386
Today’s match was to get minutes into as many players legs as possible including those who will train and be around the first team without necessarily making senior appearances, all whilst trying to avoid any injuries that playing anymore than 30 mjnutes will have increased the risk of this early in preseason. Talk of money, fans entitlement etc is wide of the mark.July 13, 2022 at 4:03 am #2113406
To put things into context.. in 2019 we played a friendly against Napoli and lost 3-0. We went on to win the league.July 13, 2022 at 4:06 am #2113407
Pretty much the entire first 11 showed up for pre-season this week, started training in conditions that are not ideal and they still played 30mins just to appease the fans. In an ideal scenario, they would not have played until the CP game at least. As for being ripped off, most fans were already aware that if we paid to see the team, we were most likely going to see a bunch of kids play given the timing of the returns for most of the players. It’s still something that only happens about once or twice in a decade so those that want to see the team will still pay for it.
The result was poor but the performance wasn’t for large parts. Saw some good moments from our new signings and some of the youngsters which is encouraging enough at this point. Already seeing that Darwin is going to be a huge threat if we can play him in properly and Carvalho doesn’t look out of place at this level. United came at us with everything they had while we barely got into 2nd gear. If they play that way against us when we’re fully fit and firing we’re going to massacre them again. There’s a reason why everyone sits back against us. Nothing about yesterday’s game is cause for any concern at all. If anything, it’s a good kick up the backside if they’re entertaining any thoughts of complacency again this season.July 13, 2022 at 7:18 am #2113414
The minutes that the players played, the fixture itself and the amount that we charged for tickets are all separate discussions. I can’t believe we charged so much for a pre-season match. That’s an awful lot of money for your average Thai income… Really, it’s crazy money. We’re here debating whether it was worth it for them and honestly, it’s indefinable. it’s a case by case scenario but I do think that although of course the fans cant dictate who plays (I havent seen anyone actually saying they can), from my perspective, this match represented poor value. Who knows though, maybe they all loved it. I wouldnt but I also wouldnt pay that much to watch a PL match, when many of you would have little issue with that.
It’s a person by person situation. I really am not a fan of the incessant rise of ticket prices though and I never have been. The same applies to jerseys. They do this over time and before you know it, you’re paying through the nose.
FSG arrived with this very much a part of their strategy and I’ve never liked it. It has never affected me but I don’t like it for the general masses. So, while some of you don’t at all mind hearing that we charged 100 quid for tickets in a land that has been so dedicated to us,with literally millions of fans, it bothers me to see us gouging them. I couldnt give a shit that they got to see whoever, for a technical amount of time. I just don’t like it, fundamentally. I also don’t like to see us lose to Utd, ever. Of course though, the lads who say the game is already forgotten are pretty much correct, in this situation. it doesnt really matter and if we get our lads to peak fitness by the time the PL is about to kick off then we’ve succeeded, I just wish we didnt have to gouge loyal fans in the process.
It’s kinda depressing in that every time they raise their prices, people pay all the same. They’ll pay whatever to watch us and FSG will exploit that until YOU decide to no longer go… but someone else’s “no” is further along than you. It’s the same with those fucking jerseys. I’m done buying them but they’ll never notice or care because they’ll actually be selling more than ever, with an ever improving distribution setup and market demand.July 13, 2022 at 8:24 am #2113441
In football terms that is a pointless and stupid fixture.
Clearly it generates money and brand awareness.
But Are we really going to be able to incorporate and implement any new formation ideas, new tactics, new positional tweaks….in just days of gathering the team, including new players and newly promoted players? And even if we could, would we want to advertise to man utd and the rest of the league exactly how we intend to setup and play the next season, on day one of preseason?!
We should never be playing premier league rivals in preseason friendlies. It’s clearly a game planned by the suits. We all acknowledge the importance of growing commercially after we allowed ourselves fall so far behind for so many years so maybe its necessary. But games like this are a huge inconvenience to klopp and the team.
Rotating as many as he did was the best way to get something useful out of the game, some match minutes for lots while paying fans get to see the players they want to see. Trying to keep everyone happy.
But Klopp and pep will just want the full team at kirkby to themselves for as long as possible at this stage, its not travelling circus time.
Preseason friendlies are only good for match fitness and trying out youngsters.July 13, 2022 at 9:51 am #2113489
“It’s kinda depressing in that every time they raise their prices, people pay all the same.”
But they don’t.
The fans protested just a few years ago about ticket prices and FSG reneged.July 13, 2022 at 1:53 pm #2113635
Hard to tell much from 30 minutes in a training match, but Carvalho looks like some player.
Darwin also made some good runs, shown some pace and looking strong.
I doubt there’s been much preparation tactically for the game, and probably the players are under instruction not to over excert themselves. Hence the result. But reading into it for what it is, you can see the potential in these new players.
Looking forward to the next one.July 13, 2022 at 2:32 pm #2113655
Rob Fort Worth TXParticipant
kopite, hundred quid is a lot for anyone never mind a Thai but Bangkok has the best annual salary rates in Thailand and the cost of living is pretty cheap. If they couldn’t have afforded it they wouldn’t have gone but they did and it’s not down to Klopp to make it worth every penny (sorry, Baht) for them. He had a bus load of players and he wanted to play as many as possible and he did and he’ll do the same again Friday. Don’t blame him at all.
At the end of the day the Thai crowd would’ve been happier than pigs in shite because they got to see some of their Liverpool and United idols in the flesh.
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