Roman, Roman , wherefore art thou Roman?

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  • #1638946

    nine nine nine
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    Roman didn’t make Wembley yesterday due to previously unheard of Visa problems with his Visa renewal running behind denying him entry to the country.

    A sign of the times?

    Allegedly Roman has taken out a Jersey residency too?

    Insurance policy?

    Hopefully all of the above gets resolved fairly quickly given everything that needs sorting out at Chelsea FC this Summer.

    #1638979
    NIBlue
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    The players post match interviews were very telling yesterday. I personally got the impression that there is a much frustration with the club as there is with the coach.

    Again, only personal opinion, but the way the club has been allowed to be run, Abramovich’s lack of attendance this season and now this Visa carry on asks very many questions !!

    #1638995
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    Whatever the case, Chelsea FC is a very attractive investment option for any wealthy prospective buyer. I posted a while back that maybe Roman could sell up if he’s being distracted by other personal and business matters which are directly impacting his effectiveness to successfully oversee the running of our club. That win yesterday was for the fans and players themselves only. Personally I believe that the players feel let down by manager and club. A vitally important summer in context of the club’s future direction lies ahead.

    #1639069

    nine nine nine
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    This is a political situation that Roman is caught up in and given what happened in Salisbury and everything that got said afterwards realistically his Visa renewal was never going to fly through and importantly it hasn’t been declined.

    If it were to be declined it would make things more difficult but plenty of club owners don’t reside in England and rarely attend games and these days managing any sort of business as an owner remotely is not that difficult.

    Let’s wait and see what transpires the Jersey residency if accurate would solve the majority of problems should a Visa be denied and allow Roman good access to his club.

    #1639081

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    I do not believe for one minute that Roman has lost interest in Chelsea. He has been working a lot on the Russia WC bid and has previously confirmed he will be returning to the helm when those are complete

    As for not making the game, if he was going to leave or sell up why would he be coming anyway…? Roman is caught up in the political fall out from the Russian poisoning affair where everyone is playing tit for tat to score brownie points so I do not read too much into that

    However, if the worst case scenario did come about that Roman wanted to sell up then I totally agree that Chelsea is still a world-wide brand and a very attractive investment for anyone who had that kind of money and wanted to be involved in the EPL, so again few worries on that front either. KTBFFH

    #1639201

    nine nine nine
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    1905, like you I don’t think Roman has lost interest with Chelsea and nor do I believe he has ever had any intentions of selling the club.

    Obviously the political ramifications in respect to the UK’s relationship with Russia could play a part on how long Roman stays on as the owner and if and when the Visa problems are resolved I think Roman will be very involved in what happens at the club this Summer.

    However if Roman did decide he wanted to sell the club there would be plenty of takers and realistically in these days of FFP Roman and any other rich owners financial influence on any club is very limited. Cheers 999

    #1639219
    chelsea1967
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    Yes Roman sitting on his Ocean Liner in international waters just off the English Coast wheeling and dealing with potential employees flown in by helicopter landing on his helipad. Nothing would surprise me.

    #1639236

    nine nine nine
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    Wherever Roman is currently mate I strongly believe that Roman’s finger is still very much on the Chelsea pulse.

    #1639310

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    Very briefly; my view is that, whilst the bottom-line here is political, the so-called ‘Salisbury affair’ is a side show. The real problem is the ground swell of complaints by the international community about London being the cleansing house for alleged ‘dirty’ Russian money. I suspect that all Russian oligarchs are presently under scrutiny because, although our government does well from the presence of Russian business in the U.K., laundered Russian money is said to be being used by Russia to undermine Western conventions and political structure. Thus Britain has been told to sort it out. Despite this, it is important to note that there has been NO reported evidence of the guilt of any oligarch, least of all Abramovich, that any of them is involved. But if you arrive in a country with considerable wealth gleaned from the fall-out of the collapse of the Soviet Union and then buy assets worth millions of pounds, the authorities cannot help but be interested. I say again, this is NOT to say our owner is involved in such practices and his visa might simply be being delayed whilst discreet efforts are made to confirm (or deny) any malpractice. Just a thought…..but closer to reality, I feel, than events in Salisbury.

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    #1639406

    nine nine nine
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    Thanks Bort that sheds a bit more light on it all.

    #1639425

    nine nine nine
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    From The Daily Telegrsph.

    Fan representatives admitted they were concerned their billionaire benefactor could be driven from the club, as well as warning any targeting of him may backfire on England supporters at this summer’s World Cup.

    The Telegraph understands Abramovich must explain how he acquired his fortune before being allowed back into the country following the expiry of his UK visa.

    Rules brought in three years ago are being used to scrutinise the origin of the 51-year-old oligarch’s finances following March’s nerve agent attack on former spy Sergei Skripal blamed on the Kremlin.

    There is no suggestion of wrongdoing by Abramovich but the founding chairman of the Chelsea Supporters Trust, Tim Rolls, admitted on Monday it was “at the back of your mind” that the Russian might abandon the club if he was made to feel unwelcome in the UK.

    “There’s an awful lot of goodwill towards the owner from most supporters and you’d hope that would continue,” he added.

    “You would hope there would be no disruption and no problem from that point of view, purely because of what he’s done for the club and for the continued smooth running of the club.

    “If the Foreign Office, or Home Office, or whoever, want to play games then that’s completely outside football, isn’t it?”

    Chelsea, understood to believe Abramovich remains fully committed to the club, have become less and less dependent on their owner’s cash to compete but his largesse is still crucial to the £1 billion redevelopment of Stamford Bridge.

    Dave Chidgey, who succeed Rolls as CST chairman in 2016, said: “The reality is, yes, there is a political situation and, yes, clearly, he may well be subject to be being targeted. But, given we’re about to have a World Cup in Russia with England going there, I can’t believe the Government would be this aggressive.

    “Why would they do that now? They’re about to have a very high-profile presence in Russia with the England team and about 10,000 England fans.

    “Given the political situation, why would they want to put them at any risk, which squeezing somebody like Abramovich – who we know has close ties to Vladimir Putin – is bound to do?”

    #1639427

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    Bort and 999 – in other words, nor a million miles away from what I suggested off the cuff?

    #1639457

    nine nine nine
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    Indeed Palms.

    Not sure how true this is “His old Tier 1 investor visa, which ran for 40 months, expired while he was abroad, it is understood. As a result, Abramovich was forced to make an application for a new visa under tougher rules brought in in 2015, rather than the more simple process of renewing an existing visa.”

    According to the Daily Mail
    “Mr Abramovich is worth £9.3billion. Technically, he will need to show that at least £2million of his investment in the UK is from legal sources.” ??? Seems lax to me?

    A separate source interestingly claims “Abramovich formally has residency in Jersey in the Channel Islands, a tax haven, but has never taken it up. The Sunday Times put his wealth at 9.3 billion pounds ($12.5 billion) on its Rich List this year. He has owned Chelsea since 2003.”

    If the Jersey residency claim is accurate it might well avoid these current problems if they need avoiding allowing Roman to take up Jersey Residency and still spend up to 90 days in the UK???

    #1639740
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    Yes Palms

    Thats why i posted the story 😉 to back your theory.

    also look here for some interesting reading:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-22/visa-or-no-visa-abramovich-is-winning-on-london-s-stock-market#15269967518112

    Abramovich has added $1.2 billion to his fortune this year, lifting his total wealth to $13.7 billion.

    #1639745

    nine nine nine
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    Bort, saw that there’s no doubt he’s a smart cookie.

    Given this “Mr Abramovich is worth £9.3billion. Technically, he will need to show that at least £2million of his investment in the UK is from legal sources.” ??? And the fact Roman has made do much on the Stock Market over here all of it perfectly legal the above shouldn’t be too tough for him.

    #1640275

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    999 – Much will depend on what is considered ‘legal’ and probably a top legal mind may well be called for. Like you, I have seen it said that money gained on the London Stock Market is considered ipso facto “legal’. But supposing it was through investments using ‘dirty’ money? I have no idea; it seems like a minefield. Much might depend upon the attitude of the authority investigating all of this. And whether he is an Arsenal fan! (If there is a passing Crime Squad hacker….that last comment was a joke, right?)

    #1640756

    nine nine nine
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    Roman allegedly in Israel and looking to take out Israeli citizenship?

    #1642029

    nine nine nine
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    Roman Abramovich moves to Israel taking out Israeli citizendhip. Israeli citizens can visit the UK for 6 moths without any Visa?

    #1642366

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    In Israel, alive and kicking. His new citizenship allows him up to 6 months in the country so it would seem normal service to be resumed…? KTBFFH

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