Sarri's system

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  • #1711156
    aindro
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    We are still in contention for top 4. But we cannot lose momentum anymore. I agree not to judge Sarri now as the season is still half way. And I still think he is the right man for us. But personnally what frustrates me is his lack of flexibility. He faces every match with the same style and after Everton: oppositions know that the key to mark Jorginho. And we start to lose matches. Look at City now, I think Lyon and then Chelsea show the world how to stop them and they start to lose matches. Pep would need to react and adjust now.

    I am happy that Sarri started to adapt and adjust by playing false 9. Even the match against City showed that he could adjust his strategy. But still he played basically almost the same team week in week out. And opposition can read it right away. Also players are tired. We do have good back up players that aren’t too much used. Emerson, Cesc, CHO, Barkley, RLC, IMO they should get more opportunities in this hectic period where we play 2 per week.

    #1711201
    Romansdirtypants
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    It’s not a false 9… hazard is playing as a striker in Sarris system.

    Hazard can’t hack the false 9.

    #1712247

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    With regard to the system in general I think when I compare it to Liverpool and Spurs (for example) I do not see that much difference

    Clearly we are missing that cutting edge up front and do not convert the chances we are creating. I also think we are far to slow in our build up during a game and do not close the teams down as quickly as others

    Apart from that, I think we can compare and compete and bearing in mind how long they have had their managers and squads in place I actually think we are doing well and potentially punching above our weight when you consider that so many teams are having their best start to a season ever…? KTBFFH

    #1712767
    NIBlue
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    CfC you have hit the nail on the head here … our build up is too slow and we do not convert our chances.

    But that is Sarri Ball and a lot of it is down to Jorghino, the man the team is being built around. To me he is at best a slightly better John Obi Mikel.

    He needs minimum of two touches, he is brilliant at passing to stationary players, not so hot with moving ones.
    Scared shirtless to have a go from outside the box when in a decent shooting position preferring to go sideways, backwards or tries to thread the ball through the eye of a needle in a packed penalty area that has become congested as the opposition await our attacking play!!

    As for the fact that Klippity and Pep have had a longer time to work with THEIR squads, that is a fact.

    If only we could find a coach who would win us the League and get us into a Cup Final in their first season in charge …… DOH

    #1712770
    Stuilse
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    Maybe it’s paper talk but I’ve heard Coutinho could be available. Imagine him as an attacking midfielder in Sarri’s system. Would add goal scoring and creative dimensions to our midfield. Would prob cost 140-150m but would certainly help off-set the loss of Hazard…should Eden move on in the summer. I still feel that Cesc has a role to play with Sarri’s type of football but it seems he’s off to Monaco. That’s a big creative loss to the club which will need replacing.

    #1712960

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    Really not sure what we are currently witnessing (suffering) is actually the real Sarri ball or not. I do not believe that the slow build up is in line with what I read about how Napoli played so wonder if Sarri is still adapting to the EPL

    Regardless, we are too slow – end of. We get the ball, play across the back until we let their defence get into position and composed and then we slowly edge towards the half way line. So painful….

    Without a decent striker we then have no target man to even attempt the odd long ball or even a cross into the box so we play across the face of their goal, rack up great possession stats and do not convert the chances we create…!!

    Currently, extremely frustrating to say the least so I really hope this is still something of a transitional phase we are going through…!!! KTBFFH

    #1712983
    Blueowner
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    1905 I also can’t figure out what is different to let’s say how we played under Conte or anyone else, when I see all these back passes and far too many sideway passes it’s very frustrating. On a number of occasions this season we go from a dangerous attack to passing all the way back to our keeper, noone except Hazard seems confident enough to take on players or go on a forward run. Surely this cannot be the so called Sarriball? I know there’s still many games to go but I really can’t see us ending in the top 4 with the way we playing. Even the games we won we are scraping through them coupled with the new bad luck run.

    #1713034
    Romansdirtypants
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    Blue owner… players are dragging their feet again… which is exactly why I say ditch Willian, Pedro, hazard, morata, Fàbregas… all need to go and go now… they’ve seen off Jose, Antonio and are doing exactly the same to sarri.

    #1713098
    Redyteddy
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    still think its a big pity the board could not sit down with Conte and resolved their differences,the guy is a winner and when he managed Juventua and Italy they played attacking football so I dont know what changed in his methods, i never even heard of Sarri till Chelsea got interested in him, anyway hope they sort out the team cause CL football is looking increasingly unlikely not on points for now but on performances especially against the so called weaker clubs.

    #1713101

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    Clearly the ideal solution would have been to resolve issues with Conte but there did appear any common ground towards the end and Conte refused to compromise in any form or fashion whatsoever

    Still think top 4 is feasible so long as we get ourselves a goal scorer and the latest report suggest Icardi is in the frame…? KTBFFH

    #1713127
    aindro
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    Conte? Can you not see he is bitter in his second season? While he won things with us and the guy will always be a winner: he looked angry all the time. Unlike his first season. Look at Mou, a winner everywhere in the world. Man Utd fired him. We had to fire him too, especially during his second stint with us. He became bitter, blamed everything … Same as Conte in his second season.

    While myself I don’t care at all about possession football, beautiful football, whatsoever: I think Sarri was a good choice for us. It is time for us to rebuild. Terry, Lampard, Drogba, Cech, their era is a passé now. Mou second stint and then Conte were just giving us a bit of extension of that era but it wasn’t a rebuilding. Now we do need our current and future players to step up. I am hoping that Hazard will sign to be the cornerstone of our new era. Rudiger and Azpi, they are a rock. Barkley would need to find his mojo again. RLC. We have Jorginho, a player whom Sarri trusts. Kanté, the world best defensive midfielder. So yeah, give Sarri time as long has he can bring us in the top 4 this season.

    #1713130
    NIBlue
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    RDP there is no doubt in my mind that throughout the Abramovich era the players have had far too much power at Chelsea.

    Even JT, Lamps, Cole, Drogs etc had a mighty sway with the owner and the board. The difference is that those guys did it for the best Interest of the club.

    However now some of these petulant brats are all in it for themselves and not the club.

    Conte was treated appallingly by the club, however in the end he did not do himself any favours.

    I do however feel if the club had backed him publicly over the Costa Textgate and had signed 1 or 2 of his first choice transfer targets we would have challenged last season and would be there again this season.

    I am not a Sarri fan, and I hope that I am proven wrong, but under his leadership I don’t see us ever being genuine title contenders.

    As for ditching players, the preference would be ditching the owner and board in the hope that Radcliffe or the likes buy the club and it is then run as a proper football.

    The commercial side need a successful football team, not the other way around, and not even 5050.

    #1713162

    nine nine nine
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    It will take more than 6 months and more than just buying Jorginho for Sarri to fully and succesful implement his playing strategy.

    #1713174

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    Like all managers they have to be given time which is something as a Club we are not good at. Changes need to be made to fully implement the way that Sarri wants to play and that will also include investing in the Club. We can that some of that is happening already but agree Rome was not built in a day and so when you look at the age of the squad this transition could take 3-4 transfer windows

    Will Sarri have that time to see his plans come to fruition…? Big question but unless he addresses some immediate problems such as goals then I would suggest unlikely. KTBFFH

    #1713184
    aindro
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    And what worries me: Sarri said again somewhere last week I think that he did NOT need to sign a striker. IMO we do need a striker now to finish in the top 4. We need to score.

    #1713187

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    Sarri was quoted as saying that he needed a winger more than a striker but that was before the Soton game. Apparently he is now making it clear to the board that we need a striker or someone who can score goals

    Guess we wait and see how the Club react but it is patently obvious that our season could drift away badly if we do not find a solution to this problem. KTBFFH

    #1713201

    nine nine nine
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    Sarri says we need something different offensively that doesn’t mean it’s a striker if Sarri says we must buy a striker guess what the price of all available strikers would go up if there were even any available to sign. #nostrikersignedbringbacktammy.😊

    #1713211
    aindro
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    agreed! Bring back Tammy. He won’t do worse than Morata. I really think that Tammy is the most realistic option for January. Does his loan contract stipulate any possibility of return?

    #1718577
    Romansdirtypants
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    So I thought I’d drop a few thoughts on here.

    Currently, Im thinking that Sarri is attempting to get a grip on player power at the bridge.
    He is 100 percent spot on with his criticism of the players, who we have seen go this way when theyre not getting their way.

    We currently sit 4th with United and Arsenal making a charge. We all expected them to be there or thereabouts at the start of the season so why the panic and angst towards a manager who has got us playing football to a pretty high standard?

    There is no plan B because plan A has worked pretty well up until now. We still dont have a striker capable of sticking the ball in the net and Hazard has all but given up playing as a striker. He aint no striker…

    So… It’s stick or twist time for Chelsea. Ive been advocating selling Hazard and stand by that. Willian and Pedro need seriousl looks at themselves for the level of performances against their wages.

    I hope Sarri gets Gonzo plus one other, a midfielder if he so needs. Then its more changes in the summer. Credit for Sarri trying to implement his strategy on the players, but I think some are just not interested.. which means theyre not team players and therefore need to be sold as that would be in the best interests of the club.

    You read it here first and probably the only place you’ll read it. But, If the club is to break the cycle of replacing managers, then it needs to look at a crop of players who have failed to deliver top four two out of three seasons. They put pay to JOse, Conte and if they continue to down tools, Sarri as well, and Hazard will be off regardless.

    Anyhow, 100 percent behind Sarri and hope his anger splits players who only want to play for themselves. Chelsea players have it so ridiculously easy I think they’re merely protecting their own financial interests.

    #1718593
    Blaze
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    RDP agree with everything you say but the frustration is that if players are not performing they must be dropped, cause their consistent indifferent performances are costing us vital points, want mention Morata or Giroud but other players like Willian, Kovacic, Pedro, Alonso, Jorginho have been woefull in most games yet this guy keeps selecting them as if his rewarding their bad play. I dont know when you played if that was the case but as I mentioned and so have others when we played we were allowed 1 or 2 bad games and then dropped if we did not buckle up, that was then amateur albeit very competitive leagues and here we are now at the very top league in the entire world where players are rewarded by being selected over and over again despite dishing out the same crap every week.There are no excuses for that.

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