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    stev2bath1
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    Not really sure what to think about tonight? Thought at the beginning of the season they would be Fodder but they have had some very good results and I watched the Liverpool Game and they played really well. They just look like they needed a goal scorer which means they will definitely score against us tonight! I Think he will start the same 11 as last week especially as we have a game on Thursday so every one will play this week. I would personally bring in Tierney and maybe swap Martnelli for Saka just to give him a break. I would start Gwen Willock and Ceb but no chance Xhaka will not start so no point in suggesting it. I would Put Laca on the bench and hopefully start him Thursday to give Aube a break. Just want to see a good solid performance from the team and I feel we have been a bit better defensively but performance wish we have a long way to go. COY!

    #1792874

    muffler_1
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    Well they did score..

    Not sure why i bother watching games anymore the way we play is just frustrating the hell out of me.

    Win or loose, personell issues or not where is our tactics and most importantly what is our tactic?

    Not sure I will watch the second half

    #1792887

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    Excellent game by Sheffield U a fully deserved win.

    Emery still has no clue and he never will he is just a cheaper version of Wenger.

    This will be the last game I will watch for a while now. Its not good for my health and I see the same signs with the team as under Wenger and Emery has not improved us one bit.

    #1792888

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    The Wenger years are back. Clueless manager, piss poor team and tactics. 72 million. Top 4 you’ve got to be kidding. This lot, will be lucky to stay up.

    Gooner for life, bloody idiot more like.

    #1792890

    the bsm walk
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    Honestly, what the fuck was that? How awful are we? Finally! Some admittance from others on here Emery is clueless! Standing on the touch line like faulty Manuel… piss off back to Mallorca or some two bob club.

    I mean where to start?! What is his obsession with playing mr number 34? Wtfff! How dare he point at people when he let the market have a free tap in? What is a midfield of Guendozi, Willock and Xhaka going to achieve? Where the hell is our creativity! Chambers out in the full back position, he didn’t play badly but he is certainly not going to provide the same impetus as Robertson or Trent! If you want to play like Liverpool and less creativity then the onus is on the full backs, where the hell was Bellerin?

    Honestly piss poor shite and the only reason why we were third because everyone else is piss poor shite, Emery fuck out of here!

    #1792893

    stev2bath1
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    Absolute Shite! There is no excuse shit goal to concede but we look so poor as they said nothing has changed under emery that was a Wenger performance. We had 75% possession and created fuck all. We have a 10, stick him on the bench for emergencies ! This is so shit I am so fed up with this football I don’t enjoy watching us anymore

    #1792902
    The Oracle
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    Still can’t defend, build up so slow and ponderous it’s easy to defend against. We spend more time passing to each other in our area than the oppositions, sideways, backwards then we give the ball away. Xhaka was disastrous yet again, he has to go. What can Pepe actually do? He can’t take corners, he can’t take free kicks, he can’t shoot. We should never have bought him, money should have been spent on a quality CD. No chance if too4, as I keep saying the loser attitude ingrained into the squad by Wenger is still poisoning everything. We need a clearout of Wenger’s losers and a new quality central defender.

    #1792904

    the bsm walk
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    Oracle ok so I’ll agree with you but then loser Emery needs to piss off with them as well

    #1792907
    The Oracle
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    bsm walk, Dick has to be given this season, Wenger failed for over 10 years before he got sacked. As I keep saying until Wengers dross has been shipped out we can’t really judge Emery in spite of his obvious errors and misjudgements

    #1792911

    the bsm walk
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    But we can Oracle, what is Emery not seeing that we are? Do we have UEFA coaching badges? Do we even have experience teaching youth players?

    Poor tactics, playing players out of position, persisting with garbage players who’ve been given endless chances, not knowing his best 11, not improving our general defending, no execution of game plan, no patterns of playing style, nothing! How is the manager not accountable for this please tell me? As you said in spite of his obvious errors and judgement, are we saying Sheffield Utd have better defenders than us! Absolutely not but they’ve been bloody coached, he’s the coach what the fuck is he doing?

    #1792937

    muffler_1
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    Oracle Emery had a clear view of the team when he took over and how he wanted to develop them and the way we should play. It was the reason we signed him. It was a high pressing game back then. Now we sit deeper than under Wenger and that against Sheffield Utd. We cant pass the ball out of the back and we cant play it long. That basiclly mean we dont even have some form of build up play under Emery.

    Now tell me what has improved since he took over? I struggle to find anything that has but maybe you seen something I have not.

    This is looking more like his time in Sevilla where he did manage a season without a single away win.

    #1792940
    the specialone
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    I have critisism of both the manager and fans.But I’ll start with the bigger one.

    Emery – That team selection was reminiscent of what we use to see under wenger.Insanity – trying the same things over and over again and expecting different results.Some major observations last night.
    1.Guendozi and xhaka again start together.This midfield partnership has never worked and will probably never work.Last season and this,when they start games we don’t really seem to have gotten the results espescialy away.I’ve told you time and again,the most balances partnership is torreira and xhaka.
    2.David Luiz – In terms of what was expected and what we got,he’s got to be the worst centre half signing in a long time.The guy is piss poor at defending.Imagine getting a poor defender who’s past it.He was a good ball playing defender but even in that area he’s become poorer.He simply has to be dropped.I’d pick Chambers,Holding and Mustafi all over him without thinking twice.
    3.Youngsters.All the fans that have suggested for willock to start.Like I said before,this isn’t football maanger.The guy was anonymous,infact i’ve not seen a more anonymous performance from a player.He probably had the least touches of the ball in the entire team.SakA.Although he’s a better prospect,he’s still raw.It’s frustrating.I wouldn’t touch any inexpereinced youngsters for the league games again.And the game yesterday proves it.
    4.Leno’s distribution and positioning is piss poor.He also has no command whatsoever.The goal we conceded could’ve been avoided.

    Fans – There seems to be an obvious overreaction after every game.Put things into perspective and analyse the performance!!Beause no one seems to be doing that.
    This sheffield utd team have been good this season.They drew at stamford bridge and gave a very good performance against Liverpool only to be beaten by a late goal.
    As for our performance,it wasn’t bad at all.We created chances,pepe missed a sitter in the beggining.His overall game is brilliant but he needs to work on his finishing.Stay back for extra sessions on his finishing which has been the issue since he arrived.We should’ve had a penalty for the shirt pull on sokratis but VAR yet again proving to be an absolute farce.Mike dean gave them every 50/50 decision.The crowd got to him.And this is one thing i want to say,Emery dosen’t seem animated on the touchline,and the players don’t seem mentally prepared to come to loud places and fight for decisions.
    There are some ridiculous analysis such as people still mentioning xhaka.Somene who had a decent game.As soon as he went off,we had guen and ceballos in midfield.I’ve said it they can’t play together and they proved it yesterday.They’re too similar.
    We were piss poor when that sub was made.Atleast when we had pepe and xhaka we were looking dangerous and looking to score.

    I criticise emery for the team selesctions,and even substitutions.The guy seems to be shooting himself in the foot and has only himself to blame.Like I said,the perfromance wasn’t all bad but some decisions are just repitive and not working out.
    If he dosen’t change certain personel for the next game,he’s asking to be sacked.
    I’d drop Luiz,ring back bellerin and tierney.Play torreira and xhaka with guen or ceballos just a but upfront.I’m also split on ozil.The facts are that yes he is a quality player but he’s just so unreliable.Simple fact is even if we sell him we’ll need to replace him.Which means that there is the quality gap there.So until he’s here,play him.Because I’d rather trust expereinced players than inexpereinced ones who are only not taking their chances and are dissapointing.

    #1792950
    steveosnakeeye
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    woeful and frankly im boredof this now, Emery needs to make big changes to HIS ethos, training and tactics very quick or can fuck right off…end of

    #1792971

    muffler_1
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    TSO we are not over reacting if it was one game then yes i would agree to that but its not.

    As for the selections of the team Emery is just as blind as Wenger was to certain players he is just a cheaper version of Wengers last years. Ljungberg at least stood up to Mr Dean while Emery was just scrathing his head.

    I said Sheffield deserverdly won but to say that any of our players had a decent game is a bit rich as nobody was switched on. Making a few good things here and there is not decent by any of my standards at least.

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    The Oracle
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    Bsm walk as I keep saying sorting this mess out will take 10 years and 3 managers, such was the appalling mess Wenger left us in. As I keep saying until Dick offloads the dross he can’t bring in the players we need. Dick didn’t spend £70m on Mustafi & Xhaka, no one wants these losers and they have contracts. We can’t get rid of Mkhitaryan except on loan, another disastrous signing. Then there is Ozil, Dick didn’t give him £350,000 per week, it’s not Dicks fault this waste of space won’t try, now we hear he’s happy to sit on his contract until it expires. The wages these 4 are on prevents the club signing what we need.

    Muffler actually Sheffield Utd do have better defenders than we do. We haven’t been able to defend for over 10 years, Chambers is just back from injury and is more of a utility player, Kolasinac can’t defend and was a poor signing, the other 2 aren’t good enough but all Dick could afford.

    It makes me laugh that the same people that excused Wenger failing year after year for over 10 years want Dick out after just over a season. With the players and attitude Dick inherited he was always going to struggle. He may well not be up to it but at least give him his contract, Wenger had several after he should have gone. If you want to know what’s wrong at Arsenal look at Ozil, he’s happy to never play as long as he gets paid.

    #1793021

    the bsm walk
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    Oracle, that excuse doesn’t really wash.The fact he’s been lumbered with shite. Why is he still playing Xhaka then? If he can banish Mustafi and Ozil who are serial underperformers what’s his obsession with Xhaka? You’re saying that poor Emery has been lumbered with the dross, so I agree with you, what then is the explanation for continually playing Xhaka?

    I’m sorry you’re talking like you’re the only one person who wanted Wenger out, I wanted Wenger out even before the first time we won the FA Cup, besides – this isn’t a competition or a scoring game on who can spot what first before everyone else, I see it as I call it, the reason we got rid of Wenger because of such dreadful performances over the years, right? We were meant to get a manager in who would try and address that issue but nothing has changed. His record vs Wenger is not much better SO why have we got a new manager and no improvement?

    #1793025
    The Oracle
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    Bsm walk, I didn’t say he was doing a good job I said he can’t be judged fairly until Wengers dross has gone, I also said you can’t judge a manager on one season and a handful of games. Dick has made good signings, Guendouzi, Tierney, Martinelli, he has given young players a chance but he has made mistakes. Sokratis is just a cheap makeshift journeyman who isn’t good enough, Luiz has never been a good defender, Pepe is a disaster and we didn’t need a wide man. Playing Xhaka is a huge mistake he’s useless, making him captain is insanity. Dick realised Mustafi is useless, the penny should have dropped by now regarding Xhaka, he truly is crap. I don’t agree with this endless passing around in our own penalty area, madness, Sokratis and Xhaka can’t do that. As I keep saying and have always said it will take 10 years and 3 managers but changing managers after a season will only make it worse. Mustafi, Xhaka, Mkhitaryan and Ozil earn £900K PER WEEK that’s £48MILLION per year. Until they’ve gone we can’t move forward. You say we have a new manager but no improvement did you honestly think there would be with so many of Wengers losers still at the club? The likes of Ozil don’t care, that’s toxic, the reason we lost last night were down to they wanted it more, the Wenger mentality is rife inside the club and is damaging. Now our players are regaining fitness we need to see Bellerin, Holding, Tierney and Lacazette come into the side, Lacazette must come back, Pepe must be dropped and Xhaka must be sold or even given away asap.

    #1793027

    muffler_1
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    That does not fly when you dont see any signs of improvement under Emery its just not acceptable. You are doing the exact thing as we blame Emery and Wenger for. They think doing the same thing over and over again will get a different result and you think Emery will turn it around when there are no signs that this is the case.

    This season has started like it ended last year although we have been better point wise we are still playing like headless chickens. It does not matter who he plays because they dont know what to do, they look quite frankly scared which was after the Watford game and it was the same here. Blame it on youth is an easy cop out when the experienced ones are doing it as well. Something is fundamentally wrong and its not only down to the players. Its like they suddenly dont know how to play football anymore.

    If this continue it will get worse because Laca or Auba wont sign new deals for sure when it looks like this. Then we will have a new Ozil/Sanchez scenario on our hands. So this is bigger than just Emery if he cant sort this out he must go and signs are already there that he cant

    #1793039
    The Oracle
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    muffler, you’re not getting this. You won’t see any improvement when you have the same overpaid poor players who don’t care at the club. They have to go before things will improve, they won’t leave because they are overpaid and who is going to take them off our hands? No one wants them, no top side would have bought them. Wenger wasted hundreds of millions, we don’t have the money, our wage bill is huge we can’t reduce it. Why do you think we ended up with Dick, he didn’t have a job, who else could we get? We can’t attract a top manager without Champions League football. Had we gone for Klopp when we could have got him we wouldn’t be in this mess but the usual suspects on here said “Klopp useless, Arsene is far better blah blah blah” Wenger is the reason we are in this mess blaming Dick after just one season is stupid, what can he do. Remember the words I used when Wenger was sacked IT WILL TAKE 10 YEARS AND THREE MANAGERS TO PUT THIS MESS RIGHT and that won’t start until the Wenger toxicity has been removed

    #1793049
    the specialone
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    Muffler – No,there has been an overreaction for almost every game.And that’s because there is this huge misonception that this squad is actually good.No it’s not,bar two or three positions,it’s filled with overrated/Overpaid/Inexperienced players.You said it yourself,that this squad isn’t good enough for the top 4 and the only reason we have a chance is because other teams are faultering.Well,why is it always other teams?Why can’t we have a slump as well.There is nothing to suggest that this squad should be in a better position than we are in any competetion this year.

    Just for the record I’m not making excuses but I know how to judge our team with what we have.

    Where are those people gone who said start youngsters like Willock and saka.Where were they yesterday?It’s proof they can’t be relied upon.This includes all other inexpereinced players as well.

    As for the performance,yet again a massive overreaction.Our xG(chance creation) was more than what Leicester created when they went there.Leicester having lesser chances still won 2-1.Liverpool went there a couple of weeks ago.Sheffield had 11 shots at them,and Liverpool had 14(just three more).Yesterday,we had 10 shots against them and they had 8.We had 2 more.It was a case of poor defending from our side that led us to concede the goal.It was a case of poor finishing from our side.They had one good chance and they took it.We didn’t.
    This constant criticism of emery for just about everything is getting tiring now.His tactics weren’t bad,His team selection and substitutions were quesitionable.

    It’s nothing short than a case of being a scapegoat of.Not saying there’s no room for improvement,there is always.But if another manager came in tommorrow he’d be judged completely differently.I guarantee you that.

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