November 24, 2019 at 10:37 pm #1801984
We still need Cb´s and fullbacks not to mention all positions we need to fill in midfield. Of the three Ole signed James is by far the best with AWB second and Maguire the very worst. Didnt thought Smalling was better than Maguire but at least he wasnt lazy and could sprint.
Back to the drawing board to find the right players.
We bought the wrong Leicester CB for sure.November 24, 2019 at 10:52 pm #1801985
@N1xer- Never mind the Smalling/Jones comparison mate, can someone please explain to me by what logic we loan out Smalling whilst Jones, Rojo and Bailly are still at the club AND then decide that Harry ‘Ark Royal’ Maguire is so much of an upgrade on Smalling that it’s a sound move to absolutely spunk 80 million smackers on the oafish, slow fucker?!
I keep reading that Ole has done so well in the transfer market that he should be given what he needs to build his own team. Oh really?, 80 million on a CB who can’t outrun my old dead granny and 50m on a full back who needs oxygen every time he crosses the half way line doesn’t look too fucking great to me. Only Dan James has come close to enhancing his reputation and therefore his value since he came to OT, simple as that.November 24, 2019 at 10:58 pm #1801986
I also forgot to put Lindeflop into that long list of useless CB’s at the club, he is just as bad as the rest and a soft as shite, gutless pussy to make it even worse.November 24, 2019 at 11:05 pm #1801987
Don’t think we can question the signings. No one at the time thought Maguire and AWB were bad signings.
It is a worry with Maguire though how he’s not been the commanding centre back we though we were getting.November 25, 2019 at 6:45 am #1801989
@Manny – I think quite a few people said that Maguire was grossly over priced at 80m, and that assessment is looking spot on now. He is not even an upgrade on Smalling never mind worthy of the tag of being the most expensive defender of all time, that’s looking like a sick joke now.
As for AWB, I must confess that I knew very little having not seen much of him last season at Palace, but having had chance to see him every week now I’m sorry to say that his overall game is just not good enough, and for 50m we should be getting much, much more, especially offensively.
Not saying he should be dropped, nor am I writing him off just yet, but he needs to up his game big time to convince that he’s going to become anything close to what we all want him to be, simple as that.November 25, 2019 at 11:43 am #1802077
Blacky – So they’re all shit then?! 😂November 25, 2019 at 12:32 pm #1802096
@happy – Are you saying that they are not?. Watch that shambles again as well as 90% of all the games we have played since Ole got the job and it’s the only logical conclusion that can be drawn.
We are just a pitiful, leaderless, clueless rabble going nowhere other than backwards under this completely hopeless regime, simple as that.November 25, 2019 at 1:03 pm #1802102
I don’t think we expected much better though did we? We need to trust in the process and see where Ole is in 18 months time. Surely no point in ripping it all up and starting again – again!
Maguire needs time to settle in too.November 25, 2019 at 1:15 pm #1802108
Incredible game, but on reflection consistent with expectations for the season. The problems won’t go away until we get through at least another summer transfer window.
We still need an energetic striker, who can play away from home in games where you need to scrap and fight for the ball.
Our central midfield is always one injury away from being overrun by the opposition, and McTominay, who’s suddenly the best player in the team was a huge miss.
Maguire and Lindelof looks a bad pairing, not helped by the fact midfielders get to run freely at them too often and pick out easy balls through the channels, but the sooner Tuanzebe gets back in the team the better. I felt sorry for Phil Jones, he looks like a player totally ravaged by injury and unable to play at this level, but if we didn’t constantly have a conveyor belt of crocked center backs, we wouldn’t have to keep wheeling him out.
On to Astana for another look at the youth players for next season, might be a few pairs of mittens coming out though, forecast says -10°C for the early kick off on Thursday.November 25, 2019 at 1:34 pm #1802114
@happy – At precisely 5.38pm yesterday you said “Ole out”, now you want to give him another 18 months?, do me a favour! Exactly what “process” are you talking about?, where is the evidence of anything tangible going on other than baffling team selections, tactics and transfers?.Fact is, there is nothing to rip apart because nothing has fundamentally changed for the better under Ole and the vast array of chinless wonders sat next to him on the bench.
As for Maguire needing time to “settle”, you were saying exactly the same thing about Phil Jones for years, and more latterly Lindelof, and we can all see for ourselves how horrifically that has panned out. It doesn’t matter how long you give Maguire to “settle” he will still be a slow, cumbersome oaf who is going to get continually exposed, which will only become even more apparent the older he gets.
He’s nearly 27 yrs of age already and should be at his peak now, that’s the frightening part. We have paid a world record 80m for top of the range and all we have ended up with is a rusted up old wreck, simple as that.November 25, 2019 at 3:11 pm #1802141
We cannot seriously consider giving this current regime another 18 months,surely we are not that blind? For Ole to deserve that,he will have to have a massive clearout in January,leading to Rojo,Matic,Jones,Young,Mata, leaving in January,and then Bailly,Shaw,Pogba,Lindeflop,Fred and Sanchez in the summer.Also,Martial has to be considered for sale if they is/are decent offers on the table.Reminds me of Ozil & Xhaka @ Arse,just doesnt give a fuck.November 25, 2019 at 3:56 pm #1802157
Blacky – The problem is we could sack Ole tomorrow and get Pochettino in and you’d be the first one calling for his head within 6 months after his first rocky patch. So then what?
Do you just want a conveyor belt of managers every season to add to Moyes, LVG, Jose and now Ole?
Surely someone needs to be given the time to actually make a squad THEIRS? Like, every single player in the squad is THEIR player. Isn’t that what Klopp and Pep have now? Or at least very close to it…November 25, 2019 at 5:00 pm #1802173
Wouldnt surprise me one bit.November 25, 2019 at 5:08 pm #1802175November 25, 2019 at 5:47 pm #1802184
@happy – I gave Mourinho at least 18 months before I realised that it wasn’t going to work out, not 6 fucking months! Fact is, Ole has no more valid credentials to manage this club than a petrol pump attendant has of being given the job of Chief Executive of BP.
All this misty eyed, nostalgic ‘Ole’s at the wheel’, ‘give him time to build his own team’ bollocks is just a turd polishing exercise in futility that can never succeed, and every man and his dog including those still backing him knows it full well, but they just haven’t got the balls to admit it, yet.
You are trying to compare Pep and Klopps situation to that of Ole, but that ridiculous comparison only highlights your cluelessness. They both had the CV’s and the credentials as managers to actually be given such roles in the first place, and then given the time to implement their philosophies. What has Ole ever done as a manager to be given one of the biggest jobs in world football and then trusted so implicitly to deliver as you suggest?
His record since he got the job full time absolutely stinks, and the points total is close to that of a relegation fodder team over that period. Already this season we have lost to Palace, Newcastle, Bournemouth and West Ham who are all shite, and drawn with a pathetic Southampton team who shipped 9 goals at home not long after we couldn’t beat them. Yesterday we were all but torn a new arsehole by a newly promoted team full of misfits and journeymen, who’s overall budget wouldn’t buy Slabhead Maguire’s left knackersack, simple as that.November 25, 2019 at 6:34 pm #1802195
MacGuffin – can you get back to Blacky please on his thoughts on Ole and your backing of his suitability to the role? Cheers mate.November 25, 2019 at 7:07 pm #1802202
@happy – What’s @Mac got to do with anything?. I do not ever recall him going from wanting a manager sacked to insisting that he should be given another 18 months all in the space of about 12 hours!
We already know full well what his position is and he has been 100% consistent with his point of view all along, which I fully respect. Where I do take issue is when I see people continually flip flopping at the drop of a hat just like you are now doing and trying to take the moral high ground with regards to the potential sacking of Ole when we all know full well that the next time we are getting spanked in a game (which won’t be long to wait) you’ll revert to wanting “Ole out” yet again, deary me.November 25, 2019 at 7:13 pm #1802203
@Happy We’re currently mid table mate. 18 months and we could be in real shit and a top manager mightn’t be available at that stage. Ole’s plan of looking players that are young, quality and hungry should be a basic requirement most clubs look for. This culture reset bollix is just an inditement on the mismanagement since Fergie retired. The fella overseeing it all is the same guy who created the Disneyland narrative before and blew hundreds of millions on a lucky bag of shite and the wrong managers.
Ole’s track record since being appointed is relegation standard. He just blew 80 million on a defender and we look shakier at the back than ever. His selections are baffling and in game management non existent. The constant we’re man utd chat and looking back at the past isn’t going to take us anywhere. Lovely fella but the wrong one to lead us.November 25, 2019 at 7:46 pm #1802211
Blacky-I dont blame Ole one bit,this job is just far too big for him.
N1xer-Spot on mate,in 18 mnths we could be relegated.We simply cannot carry on doing this,struggle @ home and defeats away.November 25, 2019 at 8:25 pm #1802215
I’d just like to get Mac’s response to your thoughts Blacky, that’s all.
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