Sheffield United

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    the specialone
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    Seriously,where does this disillusionment come from that we have a better squad than the likes of Chelsea,Man utd.There’s a reason we got thrashed in last year’s europa league final and that’s because we were outdone by a higher quality side.Sure chelsea lost hazard but they gained pulisic.Not a like for like but decent enough.
    They have a better keeper in kepa,they probably have a better defense and they certainly have a better midfield by far.Even their strikeforce is with expereinced quality players.They’re also balanced.
    Man utd have a squad just on par with us.
    So I’d give all three of us just about the same chance to finish in the top 4.The truth is that emery has a disadvantage because he has the weakest midfield.You cannot instill any philosiphy without a weak midfield.I mean just compare our midfield to the likes of jorginho and kante.Absolute joke.The fact that Luiz performed much better there last season says it all.

    So let’s burst this myth.I mean it’s no wonder people have ridiculous expectations expecting the team to be so dominant.I mean the way fans speak it should be a near perfect performance.

    The sad part is that even if this club were to sack emery tommorrow the new manager will be judged very very differently.He won’t have the pressure of making top 4,won’t have the pressure to win a trophy.With the same squad.If emery starts ozil tommorrow and he gives in anonymous/shit performances.Fans will blame emery.If emery does everything the fans are suggesting in terms of team selection and we don’t perform he’ll be accused of knowing nothing about tactics.For me,his career is over at the club and fans should really be embarrased.

    We’d have become the new man utd.Will be sacking managers for fun.

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    It is debatable on Players and Teams some will agree and some won’t but that fact is, it is debatable and especially with Chelsea. I feel we have a better squad or at least as good a squad. I was not actually lauding Chelsea as a team or squad my whole point was the team performance. Last nights Chelsea’s team was not their first choice, they did not play well because they had outstanding players, they played well because they had a structure and a plan and everyone knew what they were doing. Frank has done this within a few months. We cant keep saying we are shit because the Players are shit and he has not had enough time. We have been outplayed by teams that have worst players and it’s not debatable like Watford. I just don’t believe we can keep blaming the players for as poor as people feel some of them are he picks them and his job is to get a tune out of them and he is not close unless you like Jazz!
    As for United they have exactly the same issue as us that Olly is not close to getting the best out of the team with the players he has.

    #1793756
    steveosnakeeye
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    totally agree Stev and what ive been saying

    he isnt a bad manager per say, hard job after AW but enough time has gone by and changes made (not all) for im to SHOW us what he wants to do, have a settled 11 and a style and tactics, i could take some bad results (not performance) if i could see signs of that and i cant so time to see if someone else can do more …but again at the end of the season

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    The Oracle
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    Stev2Bath1, it’s not just the quality of the players at Arsenal that is the issue, it’s also their attitude, their desire, their will to win. We don’t have that because Wenger eroded it with his ‘winning isn’t everything’ mentality. Players believe that, he ingrained it into their mindset. I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand but as long as we have the toxic quartet on our books we can’t buy due to our wage bill and FFP and we won’t improve. That’s why Dick has gone with youth, their mindset wasn’t affected by Wengerism. Where is the Tony Adams die for the club attitude in this team, Bould, Keown, Vieira, Dixon, Winterburn, Bergkamp, Parlour, Ljungberg could all captain Arsenal, they would all give everything. Look at the current lot, it’s bad enough Xhaka is in the side never mind captain but who else is there. We lack top quality players but what’s worse is the couldn’t care less lackadaisical attitude. Wengers loser attitude won’t be eradicated until his loser players are gone.

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    Oracle.. Listen to what you are saying. Its Wenger’s Fault for the players attitude 18 months after he left???? Is he some sort of Wizard! You really need to let that Go !
    If I was boss and the players had the wrong attitude I would not play them. If I am stupid enough to play them and we lose and are shite I would get the sack and I would deserve it! Do you think Klopp would play them or Pep? No they would not he would change there attitude or let them go as I would ! The style of play and the game plan can still be there even if you don’t have the players good enough to execute it. I would accept that but that is not what is happening.

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    The Oracle
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    Steve2Bath1, you’re not paying attention obviously. Is Ozil currently playing? No he isn’t, when did he play this season and what was the performance like and what was the result. Why do you think he isn’t playing? ATTITUDE. Is Mustafi playing? No he isn’t because he played like someone who couldn’t care less and is now out in the cold but is still being paid. Is Mkhitaryan playing? No we couldn’t sell him even though we tried, loaned him out but still paying the bulk of his £200,000 per week. The only one playing is Xhaka, does he demonstrate desire, belief, will to win. No he doesn’t, he strolls about barely raising a sweat. As I and Jeff keep telling you this attitude is INGRAINED in the players Wenger brought to the club. Those 4 are paid £900,000 per week win lose or draw or whether they play or not. Torreira after one season has developed the same attitude. You’re Aaron Ramsey you want to play, you want to play in your rightful position but you don’t because Ozil who couldn’t care less is coasting so you give up. Until they’ve gone we don’t improve whoever manages us so get used to it.

    #1793795
    steveosnakeeye
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    sheffield united have a style of play and are well drilled (especially defensivly)

    its not the players
    the previous coach
    its the current encumbant that MUST show more than he has for the way HE wants to move forward and play

    todays press conference had him on the defensive saying he wants to play attachking football….great, learn how to fucking defend first then try it!

    #1793815
    The Oracle
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    SteveOsnakeOil, Learn how to defend??? You need defenders first and we haven’t had any in the last 10 years. Bellerin doesn’t defend well, Mustafi is useless and doesn’t care, Sokratis is a limited who but needs someone covering behind him. Kolasinac is a wing back but can’t defend and is permanently out of position. A fit Chambers, Holding and Tierney may help but with a poor holding midfield player in Xhaka and defenders who can’t defend how can Dick possibly defend any better. The folly of spending £72m on Pepe is there for all to see. Who made that decision? Money should have been spent on CENTRAL DEFENDERS, maybe then we could defend better.

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    Oracle, the team currently with the best defensive recored in the PL is Sheffield United. There are managing this with a bunch of players who came up from the Championship so in essence you can coach and instill a defensive discipline with average or lower PL level quality players. We could have played another hour against them on Monday and not scored, this is waht good coaching can achieve. We actuallyt have a very good holding midfielder, Emery just chooses not to play him. He has the players, he just doesn’t know how to get the best out of them.

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    Madmaxsdaddy
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    Am I going to get ridiculed for this opinion? Probably. Emery is a decent cup run manager. That’s it. He is unlikely to get us into the champions league and has no chance of keeping us there. Is our squad good enough? Borderline but a really really good manager would get a lot better out of them. My ray of hope? The board. Believe it or not I think that Raul, vinay, and edu will make a change soon. As soon as champions league is in jeopardy, then emery is out. It doesn’t matter what we think and if we think he should be given more time I just think he will be gone.
    In the short term I genuinely think Mourinho would get more out of this squad. I would hate to see him at the club but I’m just saying…

    #1793899
    The Oracle
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    OttawaGunner, the reason Sheffield Utd have the best defence in the PL currently is because that’s all they do. It’s 11 man defence, that’s why they don’t score very often only Newcastle & Watford have scored less. Plus they have predominantly British defenders who have the right ATTITUDE, they don’t have anyone earning £350,000 who is happy not to play

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