Sherwood gone, who next?

This topic contains 12 replies, has 7 voices, and was last updated by jimmytwoshoes jimmytwoshoes 5 years ago.

Viewing 13 posts - 1 through 13 (of 13 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #680362
    astonvillaward
    astonvillaward
    Participant
    • :

    Something needed to happen, but will anyone do a better job? We need the kind of impact Tim had when he came in last year. We started playing decent football and winning games. But we have a much harder run now for a new manager.

    #680521
    AchillesGil
    AchillesGil
    Participant
    • :

    Moyes is the bookies favourite, followed by Rodgers and Pearson. In our current predicament, I’d be very happy with Moyes. We have to be realistic, very few top quality managers even if available would want to manage us in our current position, and the Villa job has been a been of a poisoned chalice the last 10 years or so. Moyes is currently under pressure in Spain and I think its not realistic for him to jump ship and move back to England where he is experienced and has proved himself. It wouldn’t be an exciting appointment, but I’d honestly take mid-table mediocracy for a few seasons rather than a few seasons in the Championship. We don’t need another gamble like Sherwood, we all know we need experience. If the takeover does ever happen, and we get wealthy owners, then thats the time to be looking for a manager of a higher calibre, but until then Moyes is the best we could hope for.

    Pearson: Just no. Rodgers: Good manager, but not convinced he’s the right man for the job at the moment.

    #680656
    avillafan
    avillafan
    Participant
    • :

    I really thought Sherwood was up to the task, he was certainly confident at the start and he did well to keep us in the Prem last term but blimey he’s lost the plot recently. I’m glad the club has reacted quickly because bottom at Xmas is a different kettle of fish and appointing a new manager now means we have enough games left to pull this around. Personally after Sherwood and Lambert I’d like to see someone with plenty of experience at the helm. I think Moyes is a good shout as he did well at Everton but was never given a fair run at UTD, he knows the premier league inside out and has worked on a tight budget before. I understand the Ex Lyon manager is being looked at but we need Prem experience so it’s Moyes for me 🙂

    #680800

    keom
    Participant
    • :

    any new manager has good period at start then when the players and fans start to understand it either continues or dies a death like it did with tim

    #680842

    keom
    Participant
    • :

    the board seem to want something on the cheap thats why they got moyes,my guess is they will go for either pearson or bob bradley,the later being american may well be their first choice for me moyes or dematteo before i posted allerdyce not popular with you villians but just look at the start he had at sunderland,who ever comes in has to be a siccess if not and you get relegated the value of the villa drops dramtically,.hope board gets it right this time.moyes is the only one with good prem experience,good luck whoever you get

    #682168
    jackdaww
    jackdaww
    Participant
    • :

    the root cause of our position is with the owners.

    since martin o’niell we have had a succession of low cost managers.

    lambert was kept too long and TS sacked too soon .

    what manager is going to fix this broken club .

    the frenchman garde has no experience .

    i dont fancy moyes or rodgers.

    allardyce or pulis would have been my choice to keep us up until we get new owners .

    whoever we get has to fix a leaky defence , goal shy attack and very low morale indeed.

    there is a slight hope that kevin macdonald could do it alone , he is liked by the players.

    #682192

    pumpster11
    Participant
    • :

    The manager’s job at Villa has become a poisoned chalice. I’d be amazed if Moyes/Rodgers wanted to take the job. The owner/chief exec have decided how they want to run the club and procure the players, so anyone coming in would have to fit into that hence why Garde is now favourite for the job.
    Personally, I liked Tim and he gave us that immediate lift and a cup final appearance which we shouldn’t forget, however this season, both his team selections and tactics (including substitutions) have become increasingly bizarre. No defensive midfielder to organise on Saturday, defensively shambolic, any of 3 Swansea players could’ve scored the last goal.
    We need a simple 442 or 451 with players playing in their natural positions.

    #682528
    jimmytwoshoes
    jimmytwoshoes
    Participant
    • :

    Sherwoods simply had to go, you cant lose 8 out of 10 games with the only home point coming against the one team below you in table (not that they are now) There was nothing that Sherwood did that suggested he would turn things around, in fact we seemed to get worse.. telling players to be better is no way to motivate.. he was not up to the job and was going to take us down.. as it stands he leaves us in such a poor state that we probably have too much to do to stay up anyway. My choice is Moyes buy Garde could be worth a punt.. PLEASE PLEASE NOT PEARSON!

    #685684
    jackdaww
    jackdaww
    Participant
    • :

    it seems our dismal board of directors want any manager as long as he is french .

    whoever we get will have to perform miracles to keep us up , its a long way up from bottom.

    most of our new players are bottom six level at best .

    exceptions are grealish , hutton , guzan , gana and possibly gill , adama , crespo .

    will the owners stump up for a proven striker ?? i doubt it .

    #686569
    AchillesGil
    AchillesGil
    Participant
    • :

    Well Garde did well at Lyon, has Premier League experience as a player and by all accounts speaks good English. He’d also hopefully get the best out of our French summer signings. I think we could do worse, but I also think it would be a bit of a gamble. In terms of avoiding relegation I’d rather the safer bet of Moyes if it was an option, but he might not want to abandon his stay in Spain just yet. As Kevin McDonald says, the sooner someone comes in the better.

    #686896
    jimmytwoshoes
    jimmytwoshoes
    Participant
    • :

    jackdaw(aka another david?)
    Guzan has been our keeper over the past 3 seasons or so, 3 season we have finished bottom 6, so this suggests to me he is a bottom 6 player.. his performances have been very poor since Christmas too.. Adamas potential is high but at the moment im not sure he is prem quality let alone bottom 6.. Crespo had a shocker in the one game he started (all be it Tims tactics were awful that game.. as they have been all season) so what you are basing his quality on I have no idea unless your a big watcher of lower table Spanish football.. Gana has potential but will go missing in games..and needs to learn Prem league.. Hutton would not get into a team not in bottom 6.. and would probably not get into any other prem league teams at all.. I like Gil but he has never had a run in the team to prove himself,, but I agree with Grealish! I also think Clarke and Amavi (needs protecting) are not bottom 6 quality

    #687775
    jackdaww
    jackdaww
    Participant
    • :

    agree on gana and grealish .

    not clear on if you are saying clark and amavi are better than bottom 6 or just not prem .

    my assessment of crespo is based solely on the southampton game , i thought he was our best defender , with obvious class.

    dont agree on hutton , he has been one of our best performers , both in defence and an attacking force .

    we cannot blame guzan , or any other players because of our poor record .

    i liked sherwoods statement that the club is in a hole – absolutely spot on .

    he is evidently loved by all except our dreadful board .

    i think he will go on to be a top manager .

    #687862
    jimmytwoshoes
    jimmytwoshoes
    Participant
    • :

    I meant Clarke and Amavi are good players that could play in teams further up the table.
    Sherwood was not loved by me (nothing personal I found him funny and charming and really wanted it to work..), he didnt set us up the same twice which was confusing for the players at best.. the 3 at the back against stoke at home was just bizzare.. make no mistake about it we were going down under him.. let look at facts, we lost 11 of 15 games this season, The 4 we didnt lose 1) Bournmouth (we were very lucky..) 2) Notts County (had to go to extra time against a league 1 team) 3)Birmingham City (booed off at half time and came up with some bizarre comment that we were deliberatly rubbish first half to confuse them) 4)Sunderland at home which we drew (the only team that were below us in table until last week, and who sacked their manager) Nothing he did or said gave any indication things would change.. but yes he was right we are in a hole and a lot of that lies at his door.! Dont forget Benetek was out until the end of october last season and not fit until January..and we weren’t anywhere near bottom this time last year.. he had to go.. but i would have hoped a plan was in place post his sacking!

Viewing 13 posts - 1 through 13 (of 13 total)

You must be logged in to reply this topic.