Signings?

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  • #1863805
    The Oracle
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    So the transfer window is open and it looks as if we are signing Willian. Do we need him, is he worth it and who else will we buy/sell. Let’s discuss it. Give me your ideas about incomings/outgoings.

    #1863888
    cavey
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    Cheers mate.

    Congratilations with the 14th FA cup. Its nice to get it. This window i dont even know where to begin and frankly as you always write it. As long as we got the dross we need another 10 years etc.etc.etc.

    First of all i do see how our youth works well. And i hope the is going to keep it that way.
    More youth to first team. And secondly we really need to get rid off the the deadwood and do i have to mention their names?

    For the thirdly. ….. yes where do i begin? After the global lockdown and the restart. The clubs suddently changed their previous playstyle and showing more prospects all over the places. It could be the pressure is off due to the lack of the audience/fans and you do see shining examples in scottish league, bundesliga and etc.etc. I do hope we dont get all in for the existing well establisment players in the top clubs. Because they could be new Ozil´s.

    What i really want our club is to do is nuture and sharpening of the current youth players in for ex. What you all witness with the great goallie Emiliano. And i really sure he isnt the only player who could just step up to the first team. Anyhow due to the pre lock down situation we had with our first team and anyone with some sense could easily replace our first team. And i do hope we really stick up with our youth policy, because they are showing more passion.

    But really who knows when our club is runned by an idiot who thinks nepotism works well when you have contacts to certain agents.

    Fingers crossed and take care of eachother hopefully we will be back at cheering and singing the chants very shortly when this horrific shit stops.

    Cheers

    #1863889

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    Well i dont think we need Willian and at 32 years he is on a downhill already and If he gets 3 years well thats even worse.

    I honestly dont think we will see much unless we sell first.

    I would get rid of Sokratis, Kolasinac, Guendozi, Ozil, Mustafi and then the ones on loan like Miki and Elneny even Laca If we get decent money for him.

    Players in well the ones we are linked with like Coutinho and Partey are quite a gamble

    #1863936

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    We do need creative players as Arteta has a game plan that works against teams that can out play us but what we seem to struggle with is teams that sit back against us and we don’t have enough creativity to break those teams down. Willian will make our squad better but is not long term solution. I believe it is Arteta that wants him so we should back him and I personally think he is a decent option at least short term. I think we need another No 10 option not sure smith Rowe is ready and I don’t know who we could get. We need another options at centre mid And ideally another ceballas type option. We have to get rid of so many before we can buy even then we won’t have money. In defence I would take Sarr on a free but any other options will be depending on who we can get rid of.

    #1863940

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    Disgusted at the clubs hierarchy with the announcement today. Our owners worth 6 billion quid and we making penny pinching cuts sacking hardworking loyal staff – not on, Kroneke again milking the club dry.

    That said, we can’t stand still with signings. Biggest two signings are Auba and Ceballos. After that we need creativity, so possibly Courtinho. I don’t mind Willian we are short there but not if it ends up costing a packet. I’d love us to be in for Grealish but that’s probably dream land.

    As for sales, I think Guendozi and Ozils time are up. We don’t need all the centre half’s so probably Sokratis but I am quite fond of him. I’d be tempted to let Torreira go of an offer came in. Maitland-Niles hopefully to stay and can play DM.

    I wonder honestly how many would sell Xhaka now? Such a turn around one of our most important players now.

    #1864019
    The Oracle
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    Staff cuts could simply be avoided by getting rid of that waste of space Ozil. He’s on £18.2million per year and he doesn’t actually play, I doubt the 55 being made redundant earn £2m per year between them. As I’ve been stating for some time we’ve got to dump the dross. We can easily do without Sokratis, Mustafi, Kolasinac, Mkhitaryan, Elneny and Ozil. I’d still dump Xhaka as he’s average at best and average isn’t good enough, we need someone with far more pace and running power. Other players I think we can afford to lose are Bellerin, Torreira and possibly Lacazette. That lot could bring in £100m and the savings in wages will be huge. We desperately need to keep hold of Abameyang, sign Ceballos permanently, buy a young quality CD and bring in two top quality central midfielders. We should have dumped Luiz but that’s no longer an option. This window is vital, there must be action and it must be decisive.

    #1864035

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    £2m is a drop in the ocean considering the amount of money paid to not only Ozil but all players and especially agents. Clearly it’s not vital but the hierarchy don’t care. That’s not Ozils fault. That’s Kroenke and his henchmen. This would not have happen 5 years ago.

    Unless someone offers stupid money I think we’d be crazy to let Bellerin especially or Xhaka go they’re vital. Any replacement would cost as much. Also Lacazette has proven against Pool, city and Chelsea what an asset he can be in big games.

    #1864053

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    Arsenal is owned by an american and anyone who has worked for an american company knows that staff are the lowest priority for them.

    The timing of it and the fact that they through Arteta sold the idea that Jobs would be saved If they took a pay cut should be more worrying. Who would trust these owners now and it could very well spill over on Arteta that the players think that he is just Kroenke in discuise.

    Just when you feel a little happy the Kroenke muppets bring you down.

    As for mentioning get rid of Ozil and Jobs will be safe thats just what Kroenke wants blame the players salaries. But who gave them these salaries? Kroenke and his bitchen!

    #1864071

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    You’re right Muffler it could well spill over to the players and that’s why it’s not only immoral but completely short sighted and stupid. I bet Willians agent will receive more than £2m we allegedly save.

    #1864127

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    I think pretty much the we would consider offers for any of the whole squad and I think this will be the driver to who we will buy. The issue is I don’t hear of any major rumours on any interest in any of our players especially the ones we would definitely let go, like Ozil, Sok, and Gwen. I don’t think we can decide who we will buy until this is decided primarily because we cant afford it. We can’t keep circa £500k of wages per week sitting in the stands no where the first team squad we are not City!

    #1864176

    kopite
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    Oracle: In peace. But which club is gonna pay Ozil half his current wages even if you guys offer him on free.

    #1864386

    Jeff
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    I think this has been aired frequently recently. Our recruitment policy is seen yet again to be determined by links with super leech agent, Kia and/ or if they’re Brazilian. This is complete crap and why this club is being run into the ground by people who are incompetent and who could not care less. We need replacements and upgrades for Luiz, Mustafi and Xhaka, plus possibly Lacazette, whom I think we have seen the best of.But what happens recently? We give a new contract to Luiz, Mari and Soares- all Brazilian and with Kia. Who else was in for these players? Who in their right minds would pay them ridiculous sums of money when they are rubbish/ average? Now we have paid around £20m basic for 3 years for a 32 year old winger! Brilliant strategy, we really need wingers or players who can play on the flanks don’t we? Then Coutinho is still rumoured to be arriving. An over-rated lazy player that no leading club wants. Guess what, he’s Brazilian and represented by Kia. Now wonder all our international scouts have been sacked- we only need Portuguese speaking players whoa re on the books of the super leech agent. Then we sack 55 staff saving us around £2-3m. That’s after “snapping up” that fantastic Southampton reject, Soares, who the club’s supporters have said is rubbish and pay him how much over three years? At least £10m. This club is a shambles and Arteta should walk if this has happened over his head.

    #1864400
    The Oracle
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    Signing Willian whilst over ruling Arteta regarding Ainsley Maitland-Niles is utterly disgraceful. Fifty Five employees made redundant, an Arsenal man through and through in AMN someone who has been at the club since the age of 5 booted out even though he starred in The FA Cup Final and Semi Final. Meanwhile Ozil just sits there grinning over his slimy face and clearing off to Turkey whenever he fancies. Ozil is the biggest disgrace in football, a disgusting gutless coward. Well done Wenger you total pillock. I’ve been stating for 2 years DUMP THE DROSS OTHERWISE NOTHING CHANGES. What do Arsenal do? They give the dross new contracts and push out players we should keep. You don’t force out young English homegrown players to make way for 3rd rate Brazilians whilst letting Ozil take the piss out of the club. I’m appalled

    #1864494

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    Letting homegrown players leave over 3rd rate Brazilians has nothing to do with Ozil or Wenger. I am as frustrated as you but you air your anger at the wrong quarters. This would not have happened under Wenger, once he went the board could do what they like and they have. They don’t care.

    #1864499

    stev2bath1
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    10 years later you will still be blaming Wenger ! I do remember his policy was sign them young and then only offer one year contracts when they got to 30. He made more good signings than bad in his 10 years and signed the best ever Arsenal player you will ever see in your life time! You need to get over it Wenger has long gone. As I said virtually every player is up for sale if we get a good offer. AMN is not booted ???? If he wants to stay and Arteta wants him to stay Then regardless of whether the club accepts an offer he Can stay If he wants to as he has a contract. I actually want him to stay but is he going to be be first choice so if I was him I might actually want to leave if someone offers him first choice prem football. As for Raul as I said no one complains that wolves do exactly the same thing. The proof will be in the pudding let’s see how the signings do before we say they are Shite. I am not saying they will work As of course they won’t and signing over 30,s is not the way I would go but prepared to see how it goes before I say it won’t work.

    #1864532
    The Oracle
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    Of course it has. Wenger sold entire Youth Cup winning sides and replaced them with 2nd raters from France or Africa. It was Wenger who signed Ozil, it was Wenger who mollycoddled him and pampered him. Then on top of that he gave him a contract worth £350,000 per week and the loser couldn’t even be bothered to try. It was also Wenger who signed Xhaka, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan and overpaid them. Wenger is the reason we are in a financial mess with a poor squad.

    #1864553

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    How many home grown youth players that Wenger sold went on to play at the top? Rightly or wrongly, Wenger mollycoddled Ozil to get the best out of him and as for his contract and if you believe the rumours Wenger thought it was too much and was overturned by Gazidis.

    I know you like to blame everything on Wenger but really making 55 staff redundant and selling AMN is absolutely nothing to do with him.

    #1864581
    The Oracle
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    Reine-Adelaide, Bennacer, Gnabry off the top of my head. Sold for peanuts, current value approx £125million+,probably more. I don’t know how you lot can be so naive. It was Wenger who signed the dross we are now lumbered with, he paid hundreds of millions for them, overpaid them and pampered them. He then allowed players we needed to run down their contracts, how many players left citing Wenger and our lack of interest in transfers for leaving? He’s the reason we aren’t in the CL so yes of course our financial state is down to him. And to suggest Wenger was over ruled by Gazebo is laughable. Wenger appointed Gazebo, he couldn’t take a piss without the dictators permission

    #1864666

    kopite
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    Of the 3 you mentioned, Gnabry springs to mind and even then, he wanted regular Football. I know I’m on rival territory but I find Oracle’s blame on Wenger a bit harsh.

    #1864686

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    I think Wenger must have slept with his Mrs and he is never letting it go. Even signings like TH and Pv does not make up for it. If you really know the club then you would easily understand the circumstances of the sales. Gnabry had 2 years injured a bad loan and still got offered a new contract and turned it down. Rein Adelaide was injured and not good enough to make first 11 and bennacer was no where near the first team. Any way no more Wenger chat

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