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    stev2bath1
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    Our squad is to thin to compete in two comps next season and as every body knows we need signings. Personally I would bring back Saliba and AMN will be in his last year and keep him as a cover player for right and left back and midfield if needed. I would sign two centre forwards two centre mids and a winger to replace Pepe. If we can upgrade existing players then great but I think this is min in terms of numbers.

    #2098926

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    Arteta may want Saliba back but it does not look like Saliba wants to be back sure he has a contract but Im pretty sure given the treatment by Arteta that Saliba does not like him. We all know what happens with players who speak their mind about these things. As for AMN again not rated by Arteta as he thinks Cedric is a better option. So i have doubts that either of them will stay.

    We dont have any strikers now so that has to be prio 1 and not wait to sort that out later.

    Pepe needs to go and so does Xhaka so that means a winger and at least two top CM.

    As for what to get DCL and Jesus, De Jong but again probably not get either of them so I will just wait but If they for Talent not yet ready only then the shitshow will just continue

    #2098930

    muffler_1
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    Elneny signed a 1 year deal so there is that

    #2099832
    AndyC
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    RB, LB, DM, CM, ST

    With El Neny and Eddie now signing on it means 1 less for each position. looks as though Aaron Hickey is coming in, so that’s the LB position filled.
    RB is a tough one, Lamptey or Aarons have loads of potential and fit the recruitment model.
    DM i would like Bassouma but don’t see it happening. CM there has been plenty talk of Tielemens and for the striker my first choice is Martinez failing that i like DCL. but looks as though Jesus could be our top target.

    i trust Edu and Arteta to get it right, they did well with last summers recruitment. Only Tav has been a let down out of them. They did brilliantly getting rid of players nowhere near good enough, with a few more to shift on.

    we got Saliba coming back as well, although i wouldn’t give a shit if we sold him. His value has certainly gone up and he hasn’t done much other than play in a farmers league, I’ve watched a few of his games, and whilst he is a unit and good on the ball, he wonders and his awareness/concentration is a problem, especially coming into the prem with the pace its played at.

    I’d also do all we can to get Gnabry back home with us. He can play anywhere across that front 3 and is bloody good. worth mentioning there is some beauties available for free to help bulster the squad. Kessie, Tarkowski, Erikson, Isco, Roberto, Belotti. Bernadeschi, Simons would happily take them all.

    #2099876

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    Eddie has not signed anything we offered a contract thats where we are.

    Edu seems to have cocked something up when signing Marquinho as he apparently had signed a pre contract with Wolves..i would laugh If he causes a transfer ban for us. So sorry Andy i cant trust Edu Im surprised anyone can.

    #2099895
    AndyC
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    That Brazilian kid signed pre contract with wolves apparently. Don’t see how we get a ban for that we e done nothing wrong the player agent have if all things are true.

    Last I read was that Eddie had signed a contract or at the least it was all agreed. If it ain’t then so be it, we will need 2 strikers instead of the 1. Got Balogun coming back as well with some first team football under his belt.

    I trust them to do what’s right because they recruited well last summer. That’s open to opinion, which I accept but my view is the signings bar Tavares we’re all good investments for now and the years to come. They also cleared most the deadwood.

    #2099908

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    Well there is a similar case at CAS right now where such a ban is temporarily not in place until CAS decides. It also depends on who Wolves takes actions against. Sao Paolo came to us because they wanted money and not loose him for free. If we knew about the precontract and if thats proven then we can get a ban. Not just us the agent and Sao Paolo.

    As for Eddie until communicated he has signed I dont jump the gun. Regardless he aint our saviour.

    Well its kind of easy to clear out Deadwood if you pay them to leave or give them away. Hardly a feat to be proud of.

    #2099941
    the specialone
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    Arteta and Edu got our recruitment right last summer LMFAO.That has to be the biggest joke cracked on here for a while.They got it horribly wrong.The only two successful signings have been Odegaard and Ramsdale and we spent a lot of money on both of them as well so it’s the least expected.Ben white,Tomiyasu,Taveres,Lokonga have been utter flops.The squad management has been shambles.It’s common sense,if they got our recruitment right we’d have finished in the top 4,but we didn’t.But I guess for NON-AMBITIOUS fans the bar has been set.They will consider anything as successful,even a fifth placed finish.All pundits think Arteta overachieved with this squad.Tuchel considers our squad so weak that he has ruled us out as title challengers for next season yet has named five teams to be in the race.
    Please my fellow gooners,stop with the delusions.

    As for what we need to even challenge for the top 4.
    I’d say two strikers,A LW,Two midfielders,RB,Back up LB and retain Salliba and bellerin at the very minumum.Shift tomi to a CB because he’s not a RB.

    Nketiah is a good player but I don’t trust him to be a back up second striker.He’s done a decent job but went missing against spurs and newcastle.
    Offer him a new contract and loan him or sell him so that we get what he’s worth.

    To be a bit more specific.
    My choice of players would be .
    Two strikers between Osimen/Jesus/Nunez/Morata.
    A lW would definitely be a proven PL winger with Pedigree like Zaha.He’d be a chaos causer for the opposition.Imagine having him on one wing and saka on the other.
    Two midfielders between Tielemans/Aouar/Bissouma.

    A RB like Djedje spence or anyone with experience.
    A back up LB like Aaron hickey or I’d even take Zinchenko.

    Do I think all this is possible for us?Absolutely espescially under the reported 180m transfer budget The clowns have at their disposal.And ofcourse any outgoings possible but I don’t trust we’ll get anything because we’re the worst club in the world at selling.

    Do I think all this will happen?Absolutely not.
    These clowns are incapable of it.How Edu is still in the job is beyond my understanding.

    Arteta will get the sack next season for failing to make top 4 and that will not prove to be the solution.It’s a cycle.

    Guys remember this post,quote me on it.Hold me to it.Do whatever you want cause I’m not hiding even though it’s certainly a premature prediction considering our window isn’t even done yet.But I have no confidence in the personel to make the above happen.

    #2099950

    muffler_1
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    Morata and you complain about our previous transfers? Do we not want good strikers or just cheap useless ones?

    #2099953
    the specialone
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    Muffler – I know many people see him as football’s biggest passenger but I’m not suggesting him for a first choice striker obviously.He’s a decent back up.He offers another dimension.He’s tall a good header of the ball and on his day can be a good finisher.There’s a reason why he’s always wanted by the biggest clubs in the world and been has numerous caps for spain as well.

    The reason I put him is because he would come cheap compared to other strikers and would be most suited to our budget.If given a choice I’d obviously consider the other three but I cannot see us buying two other of my suggested names without saving funds for the rest of the areas mentioned.

    As I said,midfield is key and the fact that we’re merely trying to bring in just one midfielder is laughable.I still laugh at the fact this club went in for Lokonga rather than someone like bissouma whos had a stellar season for Brighton.Oh what could’ve been.But this club has a habit of going in for Unproven players and incase they work out they want a pat for finding the gem which very extremely rarely seems to be the case out of all the player’s we’ve recruited.

    #2099981

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    He is on a downhill at 29 if we want that type player we should go for DCL. More expensive sure but used to the PL and not a failure like Morata was at Chelsea.

    He is as you say a sub at best but he has not had a good season in 3 years.

    Morata is a Chelsea reject and I have had enough of seeing those kind of players join us. If we were to get an actual good player that has played there then sure but we have never ever done that.

    If he joins we can just add to the list of players who quite soon will be on the not good enough one. He will not take us anywhere and we might as well try to keep Laca as backup If he is out pick.

    List of clubs is impressive given that he has mainly been a sub at those clubs. But for me not good enough and he will not improve what we had this season which should be out aim.

    My picks are Jesus and DCL that will give us diversity for a fee yes but a lower risk compared to Morata

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    the specialone
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    DCL would cost 50m atleast when in reality he’s not worth more than 30m and even with that I’m being generous at the back end of a very average season.But ofcourse the English premium just like we paid for that clown Ben white.We paid a premium of 300% on Ben white.

    Do I like DCL?Sure,I don’t mind him.Will add another dimension but the price has to be right.

    Another one of my suggestion would be Gianluca scamacca.Would probably be the cheapest of all the alternatives and he’s very very underrated and just what we need as a back up striker.Has all the attributes.Pace,power,Height and great link up play.He’s basically like a quicker Giroud.

    But all of this dosen’t matter,it’s not as if those idiots are listening to our suggestions.
    It seems this club has offered Nketiah a new contract worth 100k which is absolute bonkers in my opinion.He’s a decent striker but not worth 100k a week.

    The deal seems to be all but done.The only way I could’ve imagined that to happen is if Arteta promised him he’d be our second choice.
    So we replace Laca with Jesus.

    What about Auba?His world class goals.He use to get us 20 goals per season.Who is going to replace that.

    That is by no means an improvement to our attack and just goes to show how clueless Arteta and Edu are at Recruiting.

    Said it before,I trust Arteta to coach a squad(Even with his certain limitations) but if he can’t get the recruitment right then he can be shown the door.

    All he’s doing is wasting money by paying Stupendous fees on certain players that we won’t be able to get rid of.

    As for Edu,there is no two ways about it.He should’ve been shown the door two seasons ago but the fact he is still in the job there is only the kronkes to blame.

    #2100389

    muffler_1
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    DCL had an average season mainly due to injuries. Which is maybe why we can get him a bit cheaper compared to If he had scored 20 goals.

    Then again we have Edu so there is that.

    As for Eddie he is not worth 100k in any world which is why we are the only ones offering it.

    I have zero hope that we will sign anyone with the quality we need. If we end up with Eddie and Morata which is far more likely than DCL and Jesus the Arteta and Edu will not make it past christmas

    #2100779
    the specialone
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    Yes,and it’s no wonder Nketiah wants to sign a new contract as you said no other club offered them that much.

    The reason why so many players even think of joining Arsenal is because of the extravagantly high wages we offer them.Make no mistake,it’s not because we use to be as attractive as we were probably a decade ago.Espescially without CL football.

    The question is why are we still doing it?I thought that era was gone.Well it won’t be gone until a donkey like Edu is at the helm.

    It’s important to note whichever players that have left,we paid them 90% of their remaining contract.

    So basically,Arsenal were paying Ozil’s wages while he was paying for Fenerbache until he got booted off due to poor attitude from there as well.
    And Arsenal were paying Auba’s riciulous wages while he was being to top scorer for Barca.
    This club will never cease to amaze me.

    We are the worst run club in the PL.Even worse than Man united.
    As simple as that and until that realisation is met nothing will improve.

    #2102608

    stev2bath1
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    Not sure anyone else in the world thinks Tomi was a bad signing? I personally do prefer attacking full backs and so far he looks very Wan Busako. But I still dont think has not been a bad signing in any shape of the word. What has been bad about him apart from the injuries? Nketia for 100k a week will cost us 25 million over 5 years. We could not but a second striker for that then we would have to add on there wages which might cost another 25 million. Financially its a no brainer. We don’t and never will have unlimited budget so doing this saves us money and allows more funds to be spent elsewhere. Plus I have not totally given up the idea he can do a job for us. I am not 100% convinced on Jesus he is a good player but not sure that’s what we need. I do think we need more of a big man in the squad especially if we only sign one striker. Rumors of Hickey, Tiel, Jesus all seem possible which means they probably wont happen!

    #2102616
    the specialone
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    The only people who don’t think Tomi and Ben white are not Bad signings are Arsenal fans only.Ok,Tomi was not the worst signing,I’ve said it time and again he’s decent defensively but we still could’ve done much better in that area.His injury record is atrocious.And if you ask me,if anyone thinks he has justified his 20m price tag they’re wrong.

    As for Ben white,utterly overrated.Ridiculous singing.None of my mates who support other teams rate him.Gary nevilla and carra keep having a go at him for not being good enough.For him,there is no justification that he was the worst signing of the lot.

    Simple fact is we didn’t finish in the top 4 after spending 150m which is a lot of momey and even gave us the tag of being the highest spenders in Europe techincally.

    On top of that,none of our fans actually rate this squad.They don’t want to criticise the recruitment yet think we’ve somehow overachieved.There’s no logic in that,it’s double standards.
    That means we’ve gone wrong somewhere and that’s the recruitment.But I think our own fans are so tired of criticsing the recruitment that they have just started to turn a blind eye now.

    As for our summer targets,it’s laughable and I have no hope.I wouldn’t spend over 25m for jesus.He has one year remaining on his contract.He’s useless to city.They’re basically getting rid of a player they don’t need and our demanding 40-50m.Any club that pays that much will be the biggest donkeys out there.
    And our reported bids,Hickey for 25m and 40m for scamacca.No way.I absolutely admire scamacca but not for that figure.

    The problem is as soon as they see Arsenal come knocking they ask for double.
    The only reason players come to us are we either double the bid that other clubs offer or we double-triple the players wages.
    Pathetic if you ask me.

    #2102766

    stev2bath1
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    Think the Scamacca thing is a hoax. We are desperate for a striker and every body knows it, city don’t need money so we are screwed. We can not go into The season with just nketia so we have no choice. I am hoping Arteta still has a few friends there and they still may be interested in getting him to follow pep so may do us a favour.

    #2102885
    the specialone
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    I don’t know why the scamacca thing would be a hoax,what possible reason could we have to be linked with him.Yes,although there are various reports out there saying we’ve bid for him it’s still to come from Fabrizio or Ornstein who are the most trustworthy of the lot and it probably won’t come.

    My suggestion was that scamacca would certainly be a good signing.As a back up I have to say.Then we need to get another striker as well.

    We could realistically get both of them for 50m with a good negotiator.Rememeber one is in the last year of his contract.City might not need the money but they wouldn’t want a disgruntled player on the bench,they’d rather get rid but paying anything more than 20-25m would be absolute madness.

    Scamacca,Honestly if you ask my italian players don’t go for that much.Not only italian but generally European players.They don’t have a premium.Only English players have it.
    So he should not cost over 25-30m honestly.

    But again this is Arsenal.We don’t know a way to attract players other than to throw extravagant bids and wages at the player.

    But you’re right about one thing,if we go with Nketiah being as second choice into the season,it would be all but end of any hope for top 4.
    It’s literally the same thing as in Jan,espescially we had a whole other transfer window to rectify the mistakes yet we would not have learnt from it.

    #2102926

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    Apparently Scamacca is going to Inter or wants to stay in Italy so its a bit like the Vlahovic thing but if Inter can get Lukaku that would rule them out but Milan may also be interested so we shall see. Obviously its all rumour’s and its early days so things can change.
    You are right with Jesus, that price is reasonable with any normal club but City don’t need the money and will happily keep him in the squad and lose him for nothing. They also know we are desperate have no obvious plan B so they hold all the cards. Its exactly the same situation with Tielemans but even though they can afford it, I don’t think Leicester would risk losing him for nothing so we have a bit of a stronger hand there and we also potentially have a few more midfield options.
    Its very hard to criticize negotiations as we don’t and wont know the stance of the clubs. We also need to be prepared to say No and I think we could in Midfield but up front we will have no choice and unfortunately every body knows it.
    Ultimately we all just want the players signed, if we pay it we can afford it.

    #2103220

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    We actually dont even have Nketia until its official and Scawho does not sound exiting at all

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