Silly Season

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  • #1968106
    steveosnakeeye
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    In and ideal world yes but as we have to sell to buy them just get it done

    There is arguments willock could take his place and Dave us money

    We might score goals from mf then 😁

    Apparently juve in for xhaka too now so could help bump up the price nearer to what it should be?

    Let’s be honest doesn’t matter if sold or not or replaced or not iur club will sell low buy high and wrong and the merry go round does another turn and Xhakas name will be replaced by the next high earning non deliverer in an Arsenal shirt

    #1968266
    the specialone
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    This is not just about one game for Xhaka.He’s been doing this for a long time without being appreciated by fans.Anyways,On the game itself.He basically came up against arguably the most deadliest midfield duo in Kante and Pogba and came out as star of the match.France have never lost a match when those two have started.Yes,he was officially awarded that even though there were been many contenders the way the game went.It is just a representation of what he’s capable of.

    I think over the past year or so the majority of Arsenal fans have really shifted their opinion about him to a positive one.
    Personally,the reason why I don’t want him to leave is because I know this club will be incapable to replace him.No one should force him to stay.Always said if a player wants to leave get rid, but for the right price and that is the most important part.
    Right now ,the offer from Roma is 12m euros plus 3m in add ons.
    That is just a laughable offer.I don’t get It why Arsenal even entertain these types of offers?It’s a joke.
    He’s been pretty good since Arteta taken over.He’s having a stellar euros that has only driven up his price.He’s in his peak.He has three years left on his contract.The next club he joins will be able to use him the full length of his contract considering how injure free he is.
    These factors only point to one thing,If we accept anything less than what we paid for him it’s an absolute loser.That is 35m.I’ll say it again, a top team would get more for him.

    Lastly,No lokongo or willock will be able to replace him.It’s a joke to even mention those names.They might be able to replace guendozi.But Not an experienced leader.He’s a different type of player,deep lying playmaker which are not that easy too cout.I’m talking about the style.Besides,I said it before that we need to add to the squad not merely replace.
    Arsenal will completely mess this up yet again.

    #1969082

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    So Saliba going on loan again so much for Artetas words that he woul be given one and then we give Guen away for a low fee.

    Nelson apparently leaving as well since he wont sign a new deal and his house is for sale.

    Odegaard stays at RM.

    And we have signed zero players apart for being close to some LB we never heard about and some young mf Henry recommended. Then 50m White of course that now Everton wants as well. How can this fill anyone with confidence.

    So much for doing deals early sorry but what muppets do we have in charge. Cant sell and cant buy and full of lies.

    It will make it easier and cheaper for me because I will skip next season all together when it comes to watching it. There is no exitement surrounding our club just misery.

    #1969241

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    So now there are rumours of a third bid from Villa on ESR..

    Normally at any other club you would think there is no way he is leaving. But us Im sure we will sell If its a high offer and for us thats just on the 35m mark. Now why would any club bid 3 times If they were not given encouragement from either AFC or the player/agent.

    If that happens then Arteta, Edu, Kroenke and Vinai are done. I will never ever forget it and I will do all i can to hound them all out from the club.

    #1969333

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    To be honest Muff,
    I am over this speculation on players in and out and offers and utter BS.
    When I see the player with his name on a shirt and holding it up for all to see, then I’ll accept him as an addition.
    Silly season, just gets everyone heated and causes unnecessary aggravated debate on conjecture created by pundits trying to stir the media pot. Same every year.

    Stay cool brother. Let’s get angry when we have the real information.

    Gooner 54.

    #1969357

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    True gooner but two offers from Villa is quite official and i dont trust the muppets in charge enough not to sell If they go with an offer of 35m.

    They have shown on many occasions how stupid they are so I would not put it past them.

    #1969397

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    This is why it’s called Silly Season! No one literally seems to have a clue what we are up to, and No one has an idea of Arteta’s Plan. So I am also waiting until I see it on the club page ! Our recent summer transfer windows, at the time, all looked ok and generally the opinion was that they had done a good or ok job. We now look back and think they were shite so even after the window what ever it looks like it will be about what he does with team and he will need to make it work pretty quickly or he will be out!

    #1971006

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    So Nuno Tavares from Benfica in as LB cover.

    Have no clue about who he is and his skills though only time will tell.

    #1971161

    stev2bath1
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    Looks like wan bissaka but he can actually cross and he also seems to have a right foot. As usual you tube shows all his good bits yet to see his faults

    #1971176

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    I prefer these kind of signings over Bertrand ones. We have done those before and very few has worked out.

    #1971179
    steveosnakeeye
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    Apparently we have also bought lokonga a midfielder £15m

    #1971322

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    Niether that would actually make a difference.. for me its cover for Tierney and then replacement for Guen.

    So far Edu and Arteta has not managed to bring in a top player through negotiation. Not even last year they managed that, I dont count triggering a release clause as negotiating.

    So that for me is a worry

    #1971738
    the specialone
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    There could not be a bunch of more stupider people running things at the club.Our signings are underwhelming to say the least.In other words, it’s just the same mistakes again and again and expecting a different result.

    Don’t get this club’s obsession with buying young inexperienced players.Have we learnt nothing from Guendozi?

    Taveres might as well have a lot of potential, but I’d have Bertrand over him.Expereinced and proven.Considering Tierney’s age I’d rather have someone older guiding him.I mean, what this club is going to sell Tavares for a profit?Is that why we bought him.I doubt we’ll sell him for a profit,even if we do it won’t be more than 2m.

    Lokongo?Another inexerpeienced player.I genuinely can’t believe we actually spent more on this kid than we sold Guendozi for.
    Reminder that Guendozi was valued at 45m by Analytical sites in 2019.
    We sold him for less than a quarter of that.Shambles.

    Get prepared to finish outside Europe again.

    #1971778

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    Name one player that we have bought in Bertrands age that has worked? Maybe Luiz has been half decent other than that nobody.

    Willian and Liechsteiner comes to mind directly so there is no guarantee regardless of the age and experience.

    #1971975
    the specialone
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    Well,You’re generalising.It’s about getting the right signing.But to answer you’re question, Luiz has been pretty decent and also Cedric has been good.How many other players have we signed in that bracket of age.

    It’s about the ideology really.Tierney is only 24,tell me would you rather have a proven experienced player as a back up or a young inexperienced player.
    I’m not writing off Tavares,he may as well be good but I’d rather have the right balance of experience.

    With the departure of Luiz,Our defence seems devoid of experience.
    I mean just looking at the lineup,It scares me the kind of players we will potentially have.Holding,chambers,Gabriel maybe Ben White.

    That’s a laughable defence going into a season.I just don’t understand why this team dosen’t sign proven experienced players.

    You could get Joachim Anderson and Vestergaard for the price of Ben White.I really rate vestergaard particularly, but this club is just senseless when it comes to transfers.

    Again,I’m not even saying Ben White is not talented, but for Brighton to reject a 48m + addons offer for him.What are they smoking?More than that, what is this club?
    He’s had one decent season, the rest is all down to potential which is a huge gamble.
    I’d love Ben White at our club,but if only we manage to get vestergaard and Anderson as well.And maybe sell chambers and Holding who IMO both aren’t good enough.

    #1972012

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    Cedric is not over 30 so he hardly counts in to the over 30 bracket Im speaking of. What Im saying is that what you get in experience is good but you also get a player on his last legs looking for a comfortable high paying deal in the final years of his career. Where the fight is not there anymore ands thats more common than getting a Zlatan like player where the motivation is as high as ever.

    As for the other things I agree with you but I dont see us doing that. I just see Arteta and Edu behaving like Willian on the pitch. They are there but not really there.

    #1972045
    the specialone
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    Arteta’s Interview on transfers was underwhelming.He says he has to work with what he has.It basically gives the impression this club yet again has to sell to buy and that we’re unable to move players on.

    It’s strange, because we have so many saleable players but just not the right people to execute it.

    I trust Arteta as a coach fully,However I do not trust his decisions in the transfer market.I think he needs someone above him good enough to guide him, everyone above him has to get the sack.Enough is enough.

    Having said that,I just hope this idiotic board stands it’s ground when it comes to selling players.I get some want to leave, but it ain’t Christmas.
    You either get the right money or do not sell.Xhaka especially.He’s just had an impressive euros.This club cannot expect less than what they paid for him.35m or no deal.Bellerin too.Regardless of what people say about him he’s still talented and minimum worth 30m.Inter are trying to sign him on loan?LOL.Clubs could only have the audacity to do that to Arsenal.

    Just look at Kane,he’s basically said he wants to leave.Yet Levy knows contracts are meant for a reason and reportedly rejected a whopping 115m already.

    The difference between how these two clubs are run is heaven and earth.

    #1972074

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    As for Bellerin and Inter they just got 60m from PSG so a loan request from them should never be accepteted.

    Edu and Arteta needs to tell them players wanting out that this is the amount they want and that they stay put If its not met. It cant be harder than that. But Arteta does not help by stating that anyone not onboard can leave

    #1972240
    the specialone
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    Inter done remarkably well to sell Hakimi for 70m + add ons.What’s ironic is mid season he was majorly linked with Arsenal for 40-50m.

    The fact is that Inter needed to sell atleast one major player.And they are not going to replace him with someone with some half baked player.They are in for Bellerin because they know he is quite talented but just needs that final push.

    He’s a 30-40m player.But see that’s what’s most frustrating.Even their audacity to try a loan for him just because he’s an Arsenal player.If he was any other top club’s player they wouldn’t even bother asking for a loan because they knew for player of his profile espescially age It would be impossible.
    In other words, if Bellerin was any other top club’s player, he’d be sold for not less than 35 to 40m.

    #1972349

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    Apparently Neves is plan A and Bissouma plan B that for me right there tells me tha Arteta and Edu will make it worse. I bet niether of them are here by christmas.

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