Steveo- what' s happened to this site?

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    Jeff
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    Hi Steveo- just wanted your views on what’s happened to this site? I’ve been on here since 2005 and this must be the most abject it’s ever been with hardly anything of note to warrant anyone coming on any more. We have the regular scores prediction before matches, which is a bit playground stuff really, but what else? All the regulars have departed by and large, some of them very good, like barber and andy 528, really knowledgeable posters. Even joke ones like englands best have emerged elsewhere on occasion? Is it because of bans, lack of any worthwhile debate as if one does post, it’s quite often shouted down by the usual suspect or two?! I’ve been too busy and away a lot recently but have rarely felt the need to post as there’s nothing of any substance on the rare occasion I do have a look.

    I’ve been very fortunate as I’ve only been to two games this season- the Liverpool one and yesterday! What a game, normally after such an incredible match this site would have been covered in posts- today, nothing. I can’t remember when I have enjoyed a game more in many years. Fantastic spirit and play by most, man of the match Torreira again, but as one blog suggested, perhaps the real man of the match was Emery. How refreshing to see substitutions when they are needed, as opposed to the old codger waiting until the 70th minute, come what may. Now, if our unambitious board can support him with money to replace the likes of Mustafi and Sokratis and get a quality left back in, we could make games like yesterday a regular occurence surely?

    #1703770

    the bsm walk
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    I think the logical answer is a combination of a couple of things… the format and plus the garbage some posters would write on here made it hard to come on here and write their thoughts.

    Certainly, I’m like you, used this site probably since around 05, seen it deplete and go downhill rapidly. It won’t be anywhere near the same, nowadays I just read one or two posts that are here and don’t bother contributing anything else. Cheers mate!

    P.S Was at the game too, haven’t heard the Emirates like that in a while, absolutely electric.

    #1703814

    steve68
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    what a fantastic game for you both to be at lads.i think that’s one
    of the best performances i’ve seen from an afc team in a NLD.we
    battered them if truth be told.jeff,i thought it was great to see a
    manager change things half time.i don’t know about you guys but i’m
    a bit puzzled why mkhitaryan is starting ahead of rambo but i have
    to back emery given the fact he’s the most important person at the
    club.

    in aub we have a world class goalscorer and how good is torreira?he run
    the midfield for us yesterday,and i have to say xhaka was outstanding too.
    i think we are around 3 top players short from competing for the title.
    still think we need a top quality wide player and it’s a shame sanchez
    wasn’t still here because he would be brilliant under emery.

    agree with you guys on this site.as jeff mentioned the likes of barber,
    andy and al the gooner as well as many other’s don’t seem to come on
    here anymore.even myself have lost interest although i am pretty busy
    this time of year.would love to see everyone return and debate afc issues
    with a bit of class that our great club is known for.i’ll only debate with
    the one’s that can debate with reason and leave the rest to their own.

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    Jeff
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    So Steveo, over to you- what’s happened? Even Oracle has departed apart from predicting scores!

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    steveosnakeeye
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    its all very simple,

    the change in format was messed up costing months and most of the regular posters.
    Then the few that were left was a small mix of decent posters and wums

    the fact only a few teams now have active pages is criminal, not even record champions City have posted in months, the spuds too

    as for our page lets all be honest with each other, it was not a nice place to visit for so long, to much bickering and the 10 year AW in or AW out brigade with lots of personal attacks and little said about football

    we now have a new era, new manager different players, DoF and can no longer predict the season before it begins, so we now have much to talk aout and enjoy!!

    the posters that only hate AW no longer have anything to moan about, the ones that hated certain players have less to maon about

    Oracle has not departed from scores, but seems its all he wants to join in with, best off asking him?

    good few lads on here i miss including Al the Gooner,

    its all very very simple, if every poster wats a place to come talk arsenal then it is hte responsibity of each and every poster to come and post, air there thoughts and YES treat each other with respect while we do so people dont stop posting

    its all there for everyone if you are all big enough and good enough to do it

    as for predictions i stole it from the united page as it is one of the most active and the lads on there seem to enjoy it and forms part of the debates on games they have, people dont have to join if they find it childish, its a bit of fun at the end of the day

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    The Oracle
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    Very simple answer Jeff. There has been no point posting since Steveosnakeoil allowed The Stupid One to become a part time moderator. TSO was allowed by snake oil to decide what threads could appear and what could be discussed. If you didn’t agree with TSO and no one did he whined and the posts were removed. Since then I haven’t bothered posting and neither has anyone else. As you can see from The Arsenal v Spurs thread he’s still at it. Get rid of this cancer and the page will come alive, keep him and no one posts, everyone on here knows he’s the problem.

    #1704398
    steveosnakeeye
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    Doing my best to be level here Oracle and i certainly dont think I show favouritism, but if you see it that way thats your perrogative, you are both as bad as each other and both want the other and others banned which is half the issue

    i dont want you, him or anyone banned, you need your heads knocking together

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    The Oracle
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    I blame both of you, allow someone to continuously write rubbish and then introduce censorship and you won’t have a site and that’s what’s happened. Tiptapgoal appears and immediately TSO is having a childish argument with him. You are jointly responsible and the only way this page can be saved is to moderate it correctly without bias. As long as TSO is here no one else will both, everyone knows it. If you can’t or won’t moderate the page properly get someone who can.

    #1704415
    steveosnakeeye
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    feel free to email the editors i never wanted the role and what exactly do you expect me to do with TSO? i have no powers to ban

    for a bunch of adults some of you make me ashamed to be an Arsenal fan

    be responsible for your own stuff (everyone) and this site can be good, or keep blaming others

    #1704417

    the bsm walk
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    Haha Steve, but TSO is just a wind up merchant that claims it’s his way or the highway and nobody else knows a single thing about football.

    He’s just boring, claims to watch more football than anyone else on here and keeps banging on the same drum.

    Remember when this guy would post hundreds of different threads a day? He’s like a big kid.

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    the specialone
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    Truthfully speaking,this forum has turned to shits because of certain posters who think they know all about football,and insulted anyone who disagreeed with them.As soon as they didn’t agree with the opinion,they use to insult the other poster and it use to go into a different vaccum altogether.Insults back and forth.It’s about completely deviating from a football topic.There are many posters on here who I don’t agree with,but atleast i have the maturity to scroll past,unless ofcourse they think they can sit behind a computer desk being keyboard warrirors and throw insults.Go on you can rewind back to any thread,i couldn’t bother to but if you want proof go back to any random thread and see who starts throwing insults and completely deviate from a football topic.

    I’ve never called out anyone unless they mention my name sitting like cowards behind a computer screen no matter how much rubbish they might post.Shifters and Bsm are prime examples of it.Shifters basically threw his toys out of the pram because he was after xhaka’s life and use to start five threads a day about him.And then he went whinging out,which was actually good for this forum.Anyways any argument he made have all proved out to be wrong,Like when he said xhaka is useless and now with torreira beside him we are seeing just how useful he could be.Apparently he only posts predictions now,his predicitons are so horrendous that I just had a look at the table and he’s nowhere to be seen lol.Pretty much sums up his lack of football knowledge.
    As for BSM.Yet another poster who loves to deviate away from proper football discussion.I actually tried to be nice and debate about iwobi for the sake of this forum and his condescending self comes out.Are you guys seriously so bored in life,that you have to start picking fights on a football forum to pass your time.Pathetic to say the least.
    You guys have ruined this forum by failing to respect opinions of others.

    Like SteveO,I’m actually ashamed you call yourself gooners.

    #1704517

    stev2bath1
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    TSO that last line is actually hilarious as you seem to think none of this is about you or anything you may have done?
    In reality we are all to blame. TSO for years spouting a controversial opinion especially the same “opinion” after every game about appealing or surrounding refs that no one else seems to agree with and us for constantly reacting to it.
    I have tried to be much better and just ignore that bit of his posts but stupidly did bring it up this week as I thought that in the derby we did do that, showed lots of aggression and appealed but reacted to you because in all the positives for the results and the game you had you still had that one negative again and decided to put that in your post on the game. What I don’t do is throw insults as you all said it just goes into farce at that time. Maybe TSO you might not bother to bring up the appealing point again as we all know where you stand and every one agree to stop insulting people if they don’t agree with the post, then we can all be good.

    In relation to the whole sight It must have been the most crazy commercial decision in the world to change the format when everyone who used it complained it would not work. Then when they were proved right and it did not work refuse to concede and change it back. The guys must have more money than sense and make money elsewhere!

    #1704554

    the bsm walk
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    Yes there you go again TSO, everybody else’s doing but your own. Clearly the majority have more problems with your posts then anyone else’s.

    Give it up… it’s pathetic.

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    the specialone
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    In the past couple of days…there have been more posts about non football then about football espescially after an electrifying NLD win.Everyone gave their opinions on there,fair enough.No one insulted anyone.Until tip tap idiot comes out of retirement and starts throwing insults.Then his sidekicks join in,and then it’s a completely different vaccum altogether.

    Get my point,are some people so bored in life that they need to start insulting each other on a football forum To pass their time.Some seriously mentally ill people on here,shifters is the captain of them.Why is he still posting,didn’t he go whinging out because his threads got banned lol

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    the specialone
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    bsm walk – Do you have some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder.I neither called you out,spoke nothing about you.Infact,i actually tried to have a reasonable discussion about Iwobi on the other thread,so that a football discussion starts going again.Yet your last five posts have been about me,and how I think it’s everyone else’s doing.I have not once tried to deviate away from a football topic.You are,and you are constantly doing it.It’s becoming pathetic,if it’s not me then you’ll find someone else.

    You’ll probably say I’m being self righteous,but you do realise that 95% of my predictions come true.All that time backing my arguments with proper facts and stats and wasting time on here against the “majority”s opinion and I’ve been proved right.I’m also amongst the top in predicting results.So I’m certainly making a lot of football sense.

    I’ve said many a time,stop aiming digs at people over a computer screen,and actually contribute to a football argument.And you call me childish…Exactly the point I made in my last post.

    #1704597

    Jeff
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    Steveo- I agree we should all be adults and not jump on anyone if they post something that we do not agree with. However, there is only one poster that constantly did that and did again this week. The reason I don’t bother to post as much, if ever, not that I was a regular anyway is that now it seems devoid of any content. Most have disappeared, not because of the new format as that has been around for some time, but because of the perpetual name- calling from one particular individual as we have seen again these past few days. You and we all know who the problem is. Either you have a site with lots of reasoned posters or you have one mostly people submitting score predictions and precious little else. if it is the latter, what’s the point, surely the bosses somewhere must require a certain level of participation to make it worthwhile?

    Onto tonight- not confident, we saw how we followed a very good performance ( Liverpool) with that dismal match ( Wolves). I hope we have something left in the tank as that awful sardine of a manager will no doubt instruct his team and Fellaini, of course, to kick us around or in the case of the Belgian, elbow all and sundry. No ref will be brave enough to combat 70,000+ screaming Mancs. I’ll take a draw tonight!

    #1705526

    Gooner54
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    I was not going to participate in this site again after the disastrous changes i’ve seen in format.
    However, I think it is only fair to provide comment, and not just walk away.

    I did not like the change where we lost comment thread, as in the old site.
    I have now, got used to this set up. However, we seem to lose the biplay. Why I don’t know, but original comment board was more interactive.
    I do not like the score predictions. It seems to add comment markers and when opened, is just some score with no substance.
    I would, and have suggested a separate category for score predictions. As the “Wenger out” topic was handled. This frees the page up for substantive comment.
    As for posters who get up your nose, well, we all do it. Some more than others.
    I believe any comment has value, even if it vindicates my argument, or shoots it down.
    However, it should be done in a way that is not abusive to the topic, or the compiler. To say you don’t read certain post, shows your lack of respect and fear of contradiction.
    I have been pleasantly surprised, when a comment has provided me with insight, I would have missed. To blanket ignore a poster because I have not agreed with him, or her in the past, shows a closed mind. Shifty and I often disagree, yet he has provided good argument and, has often made me rethink my view. This is the essence of debate.
    My two cents worth.
    I still read, Teamtalk (as can be seen) and miss the old format. I don’t mind having my tail twisted, England’s Best, Shifty and TSO all have done so. Al was a good biter, miss him too. I wonder did he get his Elephant(private joke from old days).

    Steve I write this, to request you look at the score thing. The page dived after its arrival. It has its place, but in a separate section, in my opinion.

    Gooner for life. Gooner 54. Respect.

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