Summer 2020

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    gingerlfc
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    I think I mentioned previously about interest in Ben White. He helps with the homegrown quota which is an worry within the club at the min.
    Diego Carlos is also still on the radar but for slightly different reasons.

    Liverpool have scouted Leeds centre-back Ben White at “almost every game”

    #1839443
    Razor
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    I can see why they like him. Really quick and comfortable on the ball for the most part. His reading and covering of the space is his strongest asset IMO. Something Lovren can’t do and Gomez struggles with at times. Probably the main reason why they’ve taken such an interest in him. Home grown as well. Still has 1 or 2 glaring issues in his game. Under pressure, he can’t keep in control of his passing, instead opting for the infield clearance. He might get away with it in the championship but in the PL that’s a dangerous ball to play. While he covers the spaces well, his technique in duels is really poor especially for someone his age. He let’s the opponent get ahead of him and dictate the duel and doesn’t have the physicality to recover control of the situation, instead over-committing to a challenge from behind. A lot more to work with than a lot of defenders for sure but far from the finished article.

    #1839568

    pinezes69
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    I read that Inter offers 26 mil for Gini!! I think that they are either stupid or naive. He is 30 years and he has 3-4 years to play football at a high level. The price is ridiculous.
    Besides 100 mil for Mane! Mane and Salah cost at least 150 mil each one and Real gives 100 only. They must be joking.
    Regarding a new CB I believe that Ben White is not the best solution at the monent. We must buy an experinced one to become stronger. We can buy and loan him for 1-2 years to PL teams. Matip and VVD are 29, Gomez 23 and the new one not more than 27, ages which are very good for defenders.
    Of course we must reduce our average age by selling/leaving Clyne, Lovren Lallana, Shaq and bringing players like Werner….

    #1839582

    gingerlfc
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    Razor when you look at the guys likely to leave after this season is complete (Clyne, Lallana, Lonergan) you can see where they may be concerned re the homegrown quota. I can see us only bringing in 2/3 senior players so at least 1 of them is likely gonna have to be English.

    #1839620
    Razor
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    Well yes but actually no. TAA needs to be registered from next season onwards. So does Kelleher. Grabara coming back from loan would cover Lonergan’s departure. Curtis Jones likely to be promoted and won’t take up a squad space. As unlikely as it is Wilson might still be afforded another chance. Shaqiri and Lovren likely to leave means we’d have 2 extra foreign spots in addition to the spot we didn’t use this season. Not saying we won’t sign white or aren’t looking at him. Just saying there’s a lot that would need to be worked on before he’s ready. It’s pretty evident to me why he’s only breaking through now and not even at the top level.

    #1839637

    gingerlfc
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    A quick breakdown of the “homegrown” rule…
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homegrown_Player_Rule_(England)

    The Irish and Polish keepers will qualify due to being at Liverpool for more than 3yrs before the age of 21.

    It’s not very clear in that link but I think there is a stipulation there has to be a certain amount over the age of 21 to be included in the twenty five man squad?
    Pretty sure Raheem Sterling didn’t count as part of Citys homegrown quota when he first moved due to being under 21.

    #1839640

    gingerlfc
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    Albeit from 2yrs ago, this article seems to suggest that the players need to be over 21.

    Liverpool’s homegrown players, meeting the quotas & Klopp’s room to manoeuvre this summer

    It mentions that Trent or Gomez couldn’t be included then.
    I guess that rules out quite a few of the younger promising players we’d have under 21 like Curtis, Williams, Elliot etc.

    #1839663
    Razor
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    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/428957-new-premier-league-squad-rules-explained

    As far as I know players don’t need to be registered if their 22nd birthday is after the next finalised submission of the squad list. For example, TAA didn’t need to be registered this season. However he officially turns 22 in October which is in between the 2 transfer windows so he needs to be registered. There are 2 periods for registration; during the transfer windows. Players 21 and under do not need to be registered in the squad of 25 to be eligible to play in order to promote youth. I.e. Jones doesn’t need to be registered until the January transfer window in 2023 as he doesn’t officially turn 22 until then.

    We’re allowed a maximum of 17 non-homegrown players in the 25 man squad. As far as I know there isn’t a minimum number of players that need to be registered. If we choose not to fill a home grown spot it just won’t be used. Concurrently the same applies for foreign spots which is what we did this season by leaving 2 foreign spots empty and then signing Minamino to occupy another. For reference Arsenal registered 6 home grown players and only registered a squad of 20 for this season.

    #1839671

    gingerlfc
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    Yea thought there was something about being 21.
    I guess that does rule out the likes off Elliot, Jones, Williams etc. being registered but as you say Trent can be next season.

    We still may need to consider this when bringing players in this upcoming transfer window.

    #1839723

    pinezes69
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    https://www.empireofthekop.com/2020/04/10/mario-gotze-a-candidate-to-replace-xherdan-shaqiri-in-summer/

    I hope this do not happen. Gotze failed at Bayern, has been at Dortmund bench this year and IMO it is better a chance to be ginen to Wilson and not bringing player to preplace Shaq…

    #1840141

    pinezes69
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    Diego Carlos to Liverpool?? If it is true then our defence with 4 CBs must be bewtter than it was. We will rest in some games VVD something which was not possible due to injuries and Lovren of course….

    #1840148
    Razor
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    Doubt Carlos is a target. Only seen a bit of him but he’s far too quick to commit to a challenge. The number of fouls he gives away should be enough indication of this and that in itself is a red flag. It’s indicative of a lack of composure. For his price tag and age I think we can do better, especially with Gomez and Matip still available.

    As for Gotze you don’t need to worry. The massive slap in the face he gave to Klopp at Dortmund is enough for him not to sentimental about such a decision. He reportedly rejected us in the past as well. Add to that his permanent muscle injuries and there’s absolutely no reason anyone at the top level should sign him. Maybe Spuds would take a punt but even then they’d be stupid to do so.

    #1840161

    gingerlfc
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    Diego Carlos is very much on the radar.

    #1840204

    Sean the sailor
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    No interest in any sig Ings or anything until
    We know what’s happening with the league

    Just have no appetite for football int tvis sll gets resolved

    #1840270
    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Sean, in total agreement. We could announce deals for Carlos, Mbappe, Werner, Messi, Zidane (I won’t let that rumour ever go away) and Maradona and it wouldn’t faze me. I need our 19th title before I get excited again.

    #1840283

    pinezes69
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    Apart from havig the highset players average adw along with City about 28 years we have some dilemmas.
    Our front 3 are 28-29 years old not old but not young. If Klopp has in his mind to sell somebody not in summer but next year then we must go for Sancho because he will be sold this summer and it will be very difficult to have him in the future.
    Mane and Salh will leave with no less than 150 mil and around 30 years old.
    Werner is a separate case and he must come for 50 mil.
    We can/must sell some players but if we want to have Sancho we can not have players like Ruiz and Diego Carlos but cheaper and probably the same good like Upamecano and Pellegrini for me…Ben White will be 4th choice.
    The same happens with our midefield where Milver is 35 and Hendo plus Gini 30 years old.
    Therefore priotriy must given either to defence/midfield or attack.
    Harvey is too young, Jones is better to be loaned to a EPL team like we did with Wilson who must have a chance this year.
    I do not think that Sancho will join us but I have my concerns about the age of the team.

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    pinezes69
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    #1841026

    pinezes69
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    From what we finally learnt Coutinho cost only 107 mil and not 142!! We sold him very cheaply when Barca desperately needed him. We should have demanded at least 120 mil for him and the deal was not so good for us. 35 mil will never be remitted to our bank account!!!

    #1841035

    kopite
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    Some of the clauses have been fulfilled so we definitely received more than £107mil, somewhere around £124mil if I were to hazard a Guess.

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