July 27, 2022 at 3:33 pm #2117740
Nine I think we wanted 2 defenders minimum and 3 if azpi went, with kounde as azpi’s replacement when you look at his profile. If we could have agreed terms with city and sevilla and both players I believe we would have them both. Ake would have been intended to be used left of 3 and kounde right, with koulibaly and silva in rotation in the centre with koulibaly playing outside on either side when needed. Like you said it is irrelevant but I don’t believe for a second it was ake or kounde, I think tuchel wanted them both with azpi moving on.
Not really sure our interest in kounde was increased following the break down with city, if ake was first choice then we could have valued him at least equal to kounde and if we offered city what we offered sevilla I think Ake would be with us.
Although as time goes by we are getting more desperate and I’m sure we have accelerated interest in a few defenders.
Imo we will sign one more defender for sure who can play on left and then a replacement for azpi if he goes.July 27, 2022 at 3:37 pm #2117745
I think Fofana is a decent alternative to kounde 👍July 27, 2022 at 4:10 pm #2117759
I think Tuchel’s aim was always Kimpembé (of course, besides Koulibaly), somebody he had worked with and he trusted. But again it’s irrelevant now. Koundé, Kimpembé, de Ligt, none of those, we just have to move on. If we can get Fofana, on paper he is ideal. Has Premier League experience, young, tall. He had bad injury though last season. But if we really want him, let’s just not kid around, let’s submit a bid not far to Leicester valuation. They need money it looks to me with rumours Schmeichel leaving for Nice to free up salary space.
I said not to do any business anymore to Barcelona. Somehow, today I change that opinion. If Azpi wants to leave, if Alonso wants to leave, let’s just sell them with a good price. We need to clear our deadwoods (here translated unmotivated players). Tuchel clearly has issues with unmotivated players, so let’s start the season clean slate. Those wanting to move, if there’s buyer submitting right price, just sell them. I even start to think Azpi leaving would be a good thing for Mason Mount, to start to wear captain band from time to time after Jorginho & Kanté. Last time we won the league, Gary Cahill was our captain. A Brit. Mount captain would give a lift to the squadJuly 27, 2022 at 5:11 pm #2117770
Looks as though juve are considering werner on a loan, Newcastle rumoured to be interested but they don’t offer champs league.
I think moving players on is even harder than getting the right ones in right now.July 27, 2022 at 7:23 pm #2117798
Lucky,only those in the know can tell us the answers as to why we didn’t make an offer for Kounde on the first day of the window when we had already agreed terms with him last Summer and why we only made an offer for Kounde after we couldn’t agree a fee for Ake. But it really doesn’t matter now.July 27, 2022 at 7:33 pm #2117803
If Fofana is identified as the defender we’re going for,he’ll take some prising away from Leics,more than what we were quoted to get Ake from Man.City I bet…Fofana just signed a contract extension holding him to Leics for 5 more years.Could all be a smoke screen designed to throw watching others off the scent while we pursue another targetJuly 28, 2022 at 5:31 am #2117862
I don’t see Leicester letting Fofana go however his a decent enough player for Chelsea, I notice a lot of clubs going for not so well known players or even players I never heard of for the longer term, they young, cheaper, physically capable and have some experience, so why not?July 28, 2022 at 1:41 pm #2117980
I just read this morning that Tuchel just got divorced very recently and now is in vacation with a new GF. Hopefully his personal situation will now be improving so that he can focus on Chelsea.
Idem here, can’t see Leicester selling Fofana, but if we tempt them with ridiculous money (70m I guess), I can’t see why not. Leicester need money. Otherwise they wouldn’t be considering selling their captain Schmeichel, who is one of highest earners there. It’s around one week to go, so I can’t see we can get somebody before the season starts but probably between then and September 1st, we’ll have no doubt one or two additions. Leicester need money, Inter (Skriniar & Dumfrey) need money. So yeah I can see them selling to us as long as they are able to find replacements.
Koundé (not that it’s relevant anymore), if Barça’s bid is lower than ours (to be confirmed, I am not 100% sure but I read about it somewhere yesterday) and Sevilla accept it: something is not fair here. Something smelling. Why …. But we’ll never knowJuly 28, 2022 at 2:59 pm #2118005
Aindro Tuchel already has a new soul mate, a Brazilian beauty, they been in the media pictured together. I hope his not losing his dedication on the club for the lady.July 28, 2022 at 3:31 pm #2118015
Blueowner I really hope the contrary, that he is more focused on Chelsea now as his situation becomes more stable. The divorce has been granted & now he has moved on, he is with a new GF.
One thing I would like to bring up, it seems to me that Chelsea always try to negotiate for players we want to buy? We need a CB, Inter need money, why don’t just submit a bid close to their valuation if we really want Skriniar??? Same with Leicester, if we really want Fofana, just submit a bid close to their valuation of the player? It’s like buying a house here, except that if we know that there’s housing crisis and it’s the seller market: we won’t try to negotiate too much as someone else will buy that house under our nose if we try to negotiate too hard.
I am just afraid that we really wanted de Ligt and we still can’t get over it. To see Fofana’s valuation that’s very close to de Ligt’s, we think: he’s not worth that much … The fact is Tuchel needs a new CB besides Koulibaly.
Anyhow having said all that, I still think we should give chance to Chalobah, Colwill & Ampadu, our academy graduates. As well as Gilmour & Gallagher in midfield & CHO forward. I believe strongly they will prove us wrong. Look at Mount, James: quality players. Look at Tomori at Milan. Look at Abraham at Roma. Guéhi at Palace.July 28, 2022 at 3:56 pm #2118025
Yes lifting a load off your chest does turn you into a real positive inspirational renewed man, hope thats the case with Tuchel too.July 28, 2022 at 7:52 pm #2118080
Yep, rumours say that Chelsea failed in our first bid for Fofana. This just underlines again my point, do we want the player or not. If we do, considering all difficulties (player would prefer to sign for a bigger team, seller club doesn’t want to sell, seller club prefers to do business with another club etc etc etc) and all these will lose us (Tuchel especially) a lot of time, I think we should just right away submit a suitable bid, close to the asking price.July 28, 2022 at 8:14 pm #2118085
I¨m over the moon that Kounde xhose Barcelona. Get Fofana at all cost. Quality centreback, and he’s youngJuly 28, 2022 at 8:50 pm #2118091
hyllested: Koundé is also young though, only 23 :). But I agree since the first time (last summer?) we are linked to him: there have always been reservations about his height (lack thereof).July 28, 2022 at 10:55 pm #2118112
Kounde all but confirms that he was Chelsea bound until he spoke to Xavi, who was instrumental in him changing his mind and signing for Barca. Personally, I don’t think Tuchel did enough to get this deal over the line (perhaps because he wasn’t fully convinced on Kounde?). Or maybe he just doesn’t have much pull to attract players, as it seems that even players that he has managed in the past aren’t too keen to rejoin him.July 29, 2022 at 5:15 am #2118118
I’m not sure where this news about us needing money is coming from. We’re not looking to sell Schmeichel, Schmeichel is looking to sort out his next club as his contract comes up at the end of the season. The talk has been on for the last year about us sorting out his replacement as he had a shocker last season, so if that’s the basis for your thinking we need money, it’s misplaced.
Fofana is contracted now until 2027, he’s incredibly young and has suitors galore after him if you believe the press, so there is no way we would let him go for anything other than silly money and in this market 70m is not silly money, so expect our valuation to be even higher. Remember, we don’t need to let him go, so Chelsea will have to really add on some fatJuly 29, 2022 at 6:17 am #2118120
Foxy I also never believed Leicester needed money and yet every year they selling their top players, maybe you can explain, just asking cause I don’t know the reason.July 29, 2022 at 6:20 am #2118121
Im quite happy for any player that prefers another club not to be signed on so I’m delighted Kounde is not coming. I have anyway a preference for home based players if they can do the job and there’s only one way to find out and that is to play them.July 29, 2022 at 8:33 am #2118138
Foxy, perhaps the cumulative £100m of losses over Leicester’s past 2 financial years and the fact that Leicester are the only Club in the PL not to sign a player in this window has misled some on here?
Below is what Brendan Rodger’s said recently.
“But the manager said he would never criticise the club, and understood the realities of City’s situation as they seek buyers for the players they want to offload in order to give them the financial wiggle room to bring in new recruits. If they cannot do that, Rodgers said they would struggle to compete at the higher end of the table.”
Fofana is one of several central defenders Chelsea to have been written up by the media given his serious injury and the length of his contract and the fact Leicester need to strengthen their Centre back area rather than weaken it,it will probably go no further than suggestions in the media.
But if all else fails we can turn to young Colwill.July 29, 2022 at 8:39 am #2118141
My worry on Fofana would be that he has only recently recovered from a very serious injury and was out for a while.
Given all the circumstances be surprised if this one goes anywhere. Even if Leicester were prepared to listen to offers the price they would likely set would almost certainly be silly. Having said that if Leicester want to strengthen they seemingly need some funds to do so as intimated by Rodgers himself.
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