Summer transfers

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    homerjay540
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    @hookeddevil If Real Madrid were interested I’d be happy for them to pay us in installments over 2 or 3 seasons. I can’t imagine a part exchange deal being done. The only player I’d really want off them is Valverde (possibly Vinicius or Rodrygo but I haven’t really seen enough of them to comment)
    @zico, I think McTominay has all the attributes to be a great holding midfielder. Agreed Matic doesn’t have the legs, we’d be vulnerable especially on the counter

    #1833975
    Zico
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    Dont think McTominay is a dmf mate. He is good at running around kicking opponents legs. Maybe Carrick can teach him reading the game. I rather have Tomas Partey.

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    Know it’s a bit off-topic but – anyone else feeling a sense of renewed hope since Bruno Fernandes came in with regards to transfers?

    Looking forward to next summers window, especially if we get Champions League football.

    #1833983

    homerjay540
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    @zico, We’ll have to agree to disagree re McTominay.

    That said, I do agree Partey and Zakaria (maybe Ndidi also) are quality out and out DM’s. If we have money left after signing a striker, right winger and central midfielder I wouldn’t complain about signing a DM also.

    #1833987

    hookeddevil
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    Actually think it’s quite an interesting time with Pogba. Now we’ve signed Bruno he’s really going to have to pull his finger out. If he wants to get a move away then he’s going to have to prove he’s worth the fee we’ll demand. This means he’ll have to out perform Bruno so hopefully we’ll see more of the Pogba that we’d all hoped he’d be rather than the one who sulks. Might even see him busting a bollock to get back and defend.
    If he doesn’t sort his shit out then the Madrids of this world just won’t want him…
    Homer – I don’t think it’s the terms of paying us that would bother Madrid, I just don’t think their president is interested or willing to pay £100 million+ for him.

    #1833993
    redblood
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    Are you on medication? Sometimes,I love taking the blue pill now & again,lol.

    #1833994

    happyhurling
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    For some reason i think we’d get ripped apart in midfield if we had Bruno and Pogba playing. How would it work? They can’t both be ahead of a holding midfielder as he’d be overrun when they both went forward. I guess they’d score goals though, so would be entertaining at least.
    Pogba as part of a midfield 2 with Bruon the No. 10? But then who misses out, Fred? He’s probably been our best player in the last few months. McTominay or Matic i guess.
    Dunno…

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    redblood
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    tMA-Your world class player Pogbabooooooooooooooooom hasnt played for a good few months now,and we dont seem to be missing him that much.Lewandovski,Suarez,Aguero,Auba, are all all over 30,especially Suarez is nearly 34 and is finished @ the top.On top of all that,Kane has been injured,but Im thinking about the future
    D.Zakaria is simply a beast.

    #1834002

    jm1502
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    Its simple happy, as long as you don’t assume a midfield 3 or, even more frightening, a midfield 2. It’s 4-2-3-1 mate. The 2 protecting your back four and the 3 supporting your striker. Or a 3-5-1-1. All fluid of course because that’s the way of the modern game. Just a case of finding the right players for the system. I’ve always thought 4-3-3 was a nonsense and I can’t remember seeing many teams play that system. People think the scousers do but they play with a packed midfield, with the dwarves all breaking from the middle.

    #1834005

    happyhurling
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    JM – Yeah i think 4-2-3-1 is our best formation. Although we do quite well from the 3-5-2 as well don’t we. So where would Pogba play in the 4-2-3-1? Behind Bruno as part of the midfield 2? I’m not sure he’s got the discipline or work rate for that role. And right now i’d have Fred in there over him…

    #1834015

    jm1502
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    Depends who you want in your 3 happy but Pogba would definitely not be in the 2. Besides, I still think Pogba will be gone in the summer. The key is fluidity. Just because you play a 2 in front of your back four, doesn’t mean they can’t get forward. Pace, athleticism and great engine, coupled with technical ability, that’s the modern player. And if any of ‘em don’t bust the proverbial gut, they’re out. Bruno’s shown the way.

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    yorkshireman200
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    I like the back 3 formation but I can’t help thinking Tuanzebe-Macguire-Bailly is a far better combination than having Limp and Shaw in there. Also, unless Pogba has a great Euro’s we will struggle to sell him, certainly for the money being talked about. I suspect this “injury” and his scumbag agents antics have turned most clubs off a player who only plays for himself anyway.

    #1834037

    N1xer
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    Agree. Pogba was meant to be out a few weeks and it’s been months. This is all clearly a way to try and drive the price down. He clearly doesn’t want to play for the club. Hard to even imagine how Pogba and Fernandes play in the same team unless we are planning to try and dominate and control games. Those two would never work in games like Sunday. Think Pogba will be sold to fund Sancho and a striker. Don’t see us signing anymore than that. Potentially a few youngsters but nothing more

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    Pretty sure that Ole said after the City game that the next stage of development for the side is to dominate games. Pogba and Bruno playing as 8/10’s/box to box with someone shielding the defence. Should be more than enough to beat 90% of teams. The point is to make the attacking relentless so the other side dare not or can not swarm forwards.

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    theMartial Art
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    @redblood – YEah Lewandowski is in his 30s, but he’s still the best striker in the world.

    Pogba does not want to be at United so we should cash in on him this summer and we would demand £100m from his sale. However, we cannot deny the fact that he’s world-class player. There are not many midfielders with the class of Pogba. Maddison, Grealish and van de Beek would all walk into United’s team and would not be short of United fans to carry them to M16.

    Nonetheless, its crazy to suggest selling Pogba and Martial to buy Kane. I prefer someone who can play across the front three. Someone like Timo Werner. Anyway, if we recruit creative players then it could negate the need for an outright goalscorer, since we have Rashford, Martial and Greenwood.

    BTW, how is Ndombele doing at Spurs? You were furious we didn’t go for him in the summer. Turns out you’ve been singing to the wrong tune 😂😂😂

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    theMartial Art
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    @happyhurling – Pogba and Bruno are more than capable of forming a formidable partnership in United’s midfield. If Pogba can stay fit then the midfield will be amazing. Could play McTominay, Fred, Pogba and Fernandes in a midfield diamond or a midfield 3 consisting of Pogba, Fernandes and one of McTominay and Fred.

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    killyboye
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    If they are to be successful then we need a proper DMF, Fernandes will bust a gut to get back and he can be the link between defence and attack but Pogba won’t. He never has, in Juve he had Vidal and Pirlo watching his back, never getting too far forward. My concern then is that it would limit Fernandes as an attacking midfielder, that he would be a half and half, a jack of all trades and master of none. I think we’d need one of Ndidi or Partey to cover the back four, and we’d need a much more solid CB than Lindelof to partner Maguire. If Fernandes continues to cut a swathe through the PL like he’s currently doing then I don’t really see a place for Pogba to be honest because we pay him too much to be a bench warmer. I don’t believe this change of heart either btw, I think Raiola has tested the waters and there’s no takers so they’re going to try and negoatiate a new contract as we can’t and won’t let him go on a free. I’d sell him off (if we can) and get a proper box to box midfielder in. Fernandes as an advanced attacking midfielder with McTomminay/Partey/Ndidi covering the defence. With Sancho on the right and Rashford on the left and Fernandes in the middle behind Martial or Greenwood we COULD be, as happy puts it, good to go.

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    happyhurling
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    killy – Yeah that’s the point i was trying to make re: Pogba and Fernandes in the same team. And in current form Fred is probably the first name on the teamsheet after Bruno.

    #1834200
    killyboye
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    Agreed happy but long term I don’t think he’s the best option there. We definitely need a defensive midfielder. I think Zakaria, Ndidi or Partey would be the best options there and to be honest I think Leicester would take us to the cleaners for Ndidi so I’d be going for Zakaria or Partey

    #1834215

    hookeddevil
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    McTominay and Matic (apparently agreed but not signed a two year deal) are our DM’s, like it or not they’ll still be there next season. Fred, Bruno, Pogba (assuming he stays, probably Grealish if he goes) and Bellingham (assuming he signs) will be the box to box midfielders. Exactly how they’re deployed will depend on the opposition.
    Something like Bellingham, Sancho and a CF (probably Ighalo) will be the extent of our summer business. Lingard, Pereira (maybe, Ole seems to like him), Smalling, Rojo, Jones, & Sanchez will leave (sale or loan).

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