The Premier League Thread

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    Alfie07
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    Yes Sean, Chelsea looked better last night. Looked like he player fewer academy players.

    We had a good start, loads more energy in the team and a young average age. More pace and very fluid.

    Wan-Bissaka and Maguire are a breath of fresh air for us.

    Yes, good to chat. Shame it now seems to be after a Liverpool trophy win!

    #1775069

    Sean the sailor
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    Ye Alfie Pitt this forum
    Was not a bit more active

    Enjoy the rest of the season

    #1775077
    Alfie07
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    Yeah, shame the main board has died a slow death. Too many silly arguments put people off.

    Monday will be a big game for us. We struggled to break Wolves down last season, be interesting to see how the new tactics work.

    #1775206

    Sean the sailor
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    Ye it’s a very difficult place to go mate

    They got a good result last week. It’s a tough place to go but I think utd will win 2-0.

    Interesting to see martial up top. Has all the attributes to be a very good player in that position

    #1775288

    nine nine nine
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    “I’m really impressed with how Chelsea played in the games with tough teams in United and Liverpool,”

    “They didn’t win but I was really surprised with how good Frank Lampard’s team played.” Pep Guardiola.

    Kind words from Pep. Chelsea are still missing Rudiger, James, Willian, Hudson Odoi and Loftus Cheek and Kante had his first full game on Wednesday with no pre season and he will only get better with games.

    Obviously not being able to buy in the transfer window has hampered us but it’s also given chances to several young players to stake their claims and it will give Frank the chance to clearly spot the gaps that might need filling once the ban ends.

    I think Chelsea will win more a lot more games than they lose especially when we have a fully fit squad realistically though the top 4 might be beyond us this season the top 3 seems pretty easy to predict and 4th place looks like it will be between United and Arsenal.

    #1775501
    Alfie07
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    Man City very dominant but Spurs holding on for a point.

    #1775516
    Alfie07
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    Can’t believe Spurs got something from that game. So one sided, but that’s football for you.

    #1775521

    CM
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    Spurs were lucky indeed. Would have been injustice if VAR wasn’t around.

    #1775522

    Sean the sailor
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    What a silly rule though lads. It’s bit his hand but it’s totally unintentional. I know it’s now a rule but ffs, it’s ridiculous

    Alfie, agree mate. No idea how spurs got a result there. City were excellent but two very avoidable goals they conceded

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    Alfie07
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    What I don’t get is that they made a big fanfare that any ball to hand is handball now, any, but Watford were denied a penalty when the ball clearly hit a WBA players arm in the first week.

    So inconsistent, even with VAR.

    #1775524

    CM
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    Agree about the rule, but I believe it came in to place because of the small margins in regards to what was intentional or not intentional. But will players exploit this, if a players arm is in a natural position and one of the opposition players kicks the ball towards his arm intentionally in the penalty area, would that be considered hand ball too?

    #1775526

    Sean the sailor
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    Exactly lads, inconsistency is still there.

    I don’t think the Chelsea pen was a pen during the week

    Adrian was off his line for the last pen which he saved.

    The handball Alfie is referring to. He clearly jumped with hands up in the air.

    #1775527
    Alfie07
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    It’s just bizarre. Any time the ball hits the arm, regardless of intention, was meant to be handball this season and yet they give one and not the other. And that is with VAR. The human side of VAR will always muck it up.

    #1775528
    Alfie07
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    Sorry, I take that back – partly. Just seen this:

    “A player is seen to have committed a handball if their arm is in an unnatural position, including having their hands behind their back.
    Handball will be given if the ball strikes any hand which is over shoulder height.
    But former whistler Mike Reilly has assured fans that the ball-to-hand decisions we saw this summer in France will NOT be given as spot-kicks in the Premier League”

    Strange that hands behind back will now be handball. What are players meant to do? Leave hands where they naturally go and trust the ref?

    #1775529
    Luckydestiny
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    Exactly alfie, its a stupid rule. If it wasnt over ruled no one would have protested, not even spurs fans.

    #1775541

    nine nine nine
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    Great point this by Alfie “But former whistler Mike Reilly has assured fans that the ball-to-hand decisions we saw this summer in France will NOT be given as spot-kicks in the Premier League” It’s a ridiculous rule and goals like City’s third which was ruled out that shouldn’t be happening.

    #1775542

    mufc
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    Good stuff guys, we should all post at least one message on the main forum after a batch of games.

    Anyway a general question to you all. How much of an influence do you think players can have on making the ref look at the decision via VAR Can be like cricket, where you an appeal can influence an umpires mind.

    #1775544
    Alfie07
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    I think the handball rule is now purposely inconsistent. Attacking teams which gain an advantage by any handball (deliberate or accidental) will always be penalised, whereas defending teams in the same handball situation will not be penalised for accidental handball.

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiu_qXe-IvkAhVPyKQKHZsxCwQQzPwBegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport%2Ffootball%2F47429316&psig=AOvVaw0qO-XC7mD978YDgg7D_fkL&ust=1566201325093844

    “What we are looking at particularly in attacking situations is where the player gets a clear unfair advantage by gaining possession or control of the ball, as a result of it making contact with their hand or arm.”

    The changes mean gaining control or possession and then scoring as a consequence of handling the ball will not be allowed – neither will a goal scored directly from handling the ball, regardless of intent.

    Another change to the laws of the game means that if the player’s arms extend beyond a “natural silhouette”, handball will be given, even if it is perceived as accidental.

    Elleray says this is an effort to put an end to defenders placing their arms behind their backs in fear of giving away a free-kick.

    “We’ve changed it to say the body has a certain silhouette,” said Elleray. “If the arms are extended beyond that silhouette then the body is being made unnaturally bigger, with the purpose of it being a bigger barrier to the opponent or the ball.

    “Players should be allowed to have their arms by their side because it’s their natural silhouette.”

    So refs are expecting players to trust them when they have their hands by their sides. Erm, good luck with that.

    #1775545
    Alfie07
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    So, if the WBA handball was at the other end of the pitch, and they scored from it, the goal would have been disallowed for handball. But it was deemed accidental in their own box. Deliberately inconsistent!

    #1775697
    Alfie07
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    I thought Leicester were a little unlucky this afternoon. Finished really strongly. Though extra time for Chelsea midweek didn’t help their cause today.

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