The Premier League Thread

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  • #1775725

    Sean the sailor
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    Leicester were excellent in the 2nd half. Chelsea started really well and needed the 2nd while On top

    Great game

    #1775726

    CM
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    Leicester are going to be challenging top 6 imo. Good manager and great young squad. They have made some decent signings over the years. Chelsea just looked jaded. Mount looks some player.

    #1775727

    nine nine nine
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    Chelsea ran out of steam today they were very good in the first 20/25 minutes and could have scored 2 or 3.

    The goalscorer situation remains a problem and Chelsea probably won’t be able to try to solve that problem until next Summer. And even then who is there out there.

    I think Istanbul definitely played a part today and Leicester came on very strong in the second half and deserved at least a draw. No one will get an easy game from them and their draw at Anfield last season was one of the reasons Liverpool didn’t win the title.

    Mount looks like he’ll be a top player Chelsea supporter as a boy and at the Club since aged six.

    #1775728

    nine nine nine
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    As Alfie highlights accidental handball in a defensive situation won’t be penalised whilst in a goal scoring situation it will be penalised which seems strange to me.

    #1775879
    theMartial Art
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    I’m no Man City fan but I thought VAR would do away with obvious mistakes. Instead we getting marginal dubious calls and even more unsatisfying decisions than before VAR. And the spontaneity is gone. Its awful. And where was the VAR when City should of had a penalty? This is quickly becoming a joke. I’m guessing it’s going to be VAR champions from now on. F this.

    #1775883
    theMartial Art
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    Lampard has zero tactical nouse, he might make it to Christmas on his reputation as a Chelsea great alone but will eventually fail. Although Chelsea lost their best player and have a transfer embargo, this is basically the same team that finish 3rd and won Europa league. I wont be surprised if Roman bring Mourinho back for the third time.

    This Chelsea team can’t keep up their intensity if they get an early 1-0 lead. Gone are the years where you’d expect to see a Chelsea hold a 1-0. Also, the large gap between the back four and midfield keeps showing up and allowing the opposition to get a run at the defense. I don’t know it’s just Lampard urging them to sit back or if it’s just a general overall lack of organization. Kante can only cover so much ground.

    As I said, Chelsea might be in the mix with the best of the rest clubs like Everton, Leicester and Wolves this season.

    #1775890
    chelsea1967
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    We are two weeks into a season and drew with Liverpool mid week over 120 minutes. If your post is designed to create a reaction and get all the Chelsea supporters storming on here in Frank’s defence then, it worked and probably not a bad thing for the site. Court Martial for you lad. We will be fine with quality yet to return from injury. Nice try in inciting a riot 🙂

    #1775946

    nine nine nine
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    Let’s forget the 120 minutes in midweek v Liverpool, the travelling back and forth, and time difference, that 10 of the players who started yesterday’s game played on Wednesday night, the fact that Chelsea are still missing Rudiger, James, Lotus Cheek and Hudson Odoi with at least 3 of which being likely starters.

    “It’s true we used a long of energy this week,’

    ‘We had the match against Man U and then travelled to Turkey for the match against Liverpool when we played very well. We were a bit tired against a good Leicester team. We had a good first 20 minutes. After Leicester were very good in the match and in the end a draw is not a bad result.” Ngolo Kante

    The above is before taking into account that Chelsea have lost probably the best player in the PL in the Summer responsible for 42% of Chelsea’s goals last season and are under a transfer ban.

    I can’t think of any top Manager who has inherited the problems Lampard has inherited in their first season and most sensible football fans and probably 99.9 % of all Chelsea fans know now is not the right time to judge him.

    As for Mourinho returning to Chelsea there’s more chance of Manchester United winning the Champions League this season than Mourinho returning to Chelsea for a third time.

    Chelsea fans are realistic enough to know that given all the circumstances chasing 6th place is probably the best we can expect this season and they don’t have unrealistic objectives and they know that Lampard ie building a new team which won’t fully take shape until next Season after Lampard has a full squad to choose from and the time to identify the gaps in the team/squad that need filling which a Summer 2020 transfer window and probably in excess of £200m might solve for him.

    #1775981
    theMartial Art
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    Let’s forget the 120 minutes in midweek v Liverpool

    Liverpool also played 120 minutes, how did they manage to win their game then?

    the fact that Chelsea are still missing Rudiger, James, Lotus Cheek and Hudson Odoi with at least 3 of which being likely starters.

    I agree Rudiger is Chelsea’s best defender but what makes you think James, Lotus Cheek and Hudson Odoi would likely being starters.

    “It’s true we used a long of energy this week,’‘We had the match against Man U and then travelled to Turkey for the match against Liverpool when we played very well. We were a bit tired against a good Leicester team. We had a good first 20 minutes. After Leicester were very good in the match and in the end a draw is not a bad result.” Ngolo Kante

    Chelsea have turned into what Arsenal became under Wenger ie soft and over hyping young players. The team is lightweight. Outmuscled by Leicester as they were outmuscled by United. Keep convincing yourself it’s the effect of the midweek game but I doubt it. Too many pedestrian players. The team don’t have the quality to finish top four. Poor attack and poor defence and too many ball losers and poor passes.

    The above is before taking into account that Chelsea have lost probably the best player in the PL in the Summer responsible for 42% of Chelsea’s goals last season and are under a transfer ban.

    Nodoubt the transfer ban is having a bad effect on Chelsea but you have already replaced Hazard by Pulisic. I’m sure you were not expecting Chelsea to sign the likes of Neymar, Mbappe, Salah, etc to replace Hazard. It was well known Hazard would leave in the summer so your club identified Pulisic as his replacement. So, you cant make Hazard excuse for Chelsea’s poor form.

    I can’t think of any top Manager who has inherited the problems Lampard has inherited in their first season and most sensible football fans and probably 99.9 % of all Chelsea fans know now is not the right time to judge him.

    What are these HUGE problems Lampard inherited at Chelsea? He has all the other players who finish 3rd and won Europa League last season. Hazard is replaced by Pulisic. Utd replaced Ronaldo by Valencia and we know Hazard is not half the player Ronaldo was.

    As for Mourinho returning to Chelsea there’s more chance of Manchester United winning the Champions League this season than Mourinho returning to Chelsea for a third time.

    I wouldn’t rule out Mourinho returning to Chelsea, he’s jobless after all and 99.9% of Chelsea fans love him. As I said, a couple of heavy defeats at the hands of Arsenal and Spurs, things will get ugly for super Frank.

    Chelsea fans are realistic enough to know that given all the circumstances chasing 6th place is probably the best we can expect this season

    You’re right. You have to accept you are not top 4 team this season. Mount scored a goal, but he’s also not Chelsea material. As for Abraham, the sooner he’s benched, the better for Lampard. That’s how he’ll lose his job.

    NB: Funny that Lampard is trying to play a system he criticized as a player (watch “frank Lampard talk about avb” on YouTube). I wonder how much he knows about high press and line. He seems to be clueless once his formation is neutralized. Frank should play the system that he so much benefitted from as a player.

    #1775986
    theMartial Art
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    @chelsea1967We are two weeks into a season and drew with Liverpool mid week over 120 minutes

    Yeah Chelsea are one of the most tired looking teams in the PL. There appears to be no drive or energy in them. And you’re spot on. Only two weeks into the season and I wonder why your team SO TIRED playing 120 min against Liverpool. Let’s see how they do against Norwich.

    This is what happens when you have no natural goal scorers in you squad , looking at this team the only source of goals are coming from Willian or Mount and thats an average of 3 goals each per season.

    BTW, Batshuayi is much better than Abraham, who would be nowhere this team if he wasn’t English.

    #1775991

    nine nine nine
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    That’s it from me with you Martial I’m not playing your game and I’m not going to feed your desire to try and troll Chelsea posters on here by responding to you in the way we saw previously between you and Liverpool posters on here albeit that there may be one or two good points in your Chelsea posts.

    But 5 posts criticising Chelsea in a week and in particular criticising Frank Lampard seems excessive but you keep them coming if it gives you some sort of satisfaction.

    Anyone who thinks 99.9% of Chelsea fans love Mourinho and would welcome him back obviously doesn’t know how the majority of Chelsea fans think.

    There’s still a respect for what Mourinho achieved at Chelsea from the majority but equally the majority of Chelsea fans wouldn’t want him back a third time.

    You have seemingly moved on to Chelsea now after your attempts at trolling Liverpool left you with egg on your face. But troll away you won’t get any more responses from me.

    One of the rules of the forum is “Do not post purely to antagonise others. The forum is meant to sensibly debate football, not point score against your team’s rivals.” But I’m sure you would never intentionally do that.😊

    Enjoy the season TMA I think United will have a decent one.

    #1776037

    Devon Hammer
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    It seems man yoo have found the perfect replacement for Ashley Young in Daniel James. And I don’t mean for his dribbling or crossing ability!

    #1776088

    CM
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    Yet minutes earlier he was taken down and did not receive anything. Moutinho goes down holding his leg, did not get touched, feigned the whole thing and receives a free kick. Moss is a shocking ref I’m afraid. Extremely inconsistent.

    #1776093
    Alfie07
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    James was clipped, I thought. Replay showed it quite clearly.

    Anyone know why Moutinho wasn’t given as offside in the build up to the Wolves goal? VAR seemed to spit it but not give it? Sterling was given offside last week and was much closer to being level.

    #1776099

    Sean the sailor
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    I thought he was offside Alfie but seemingly because it’s his arm (he can’t score with his arm) then it’s offside.

    Thought utd were the better team. Wolves just sat in most of the game.

    #1776100

    Sean the sailor
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    Cm, Moss is a joke. Always has been. Terrible ref

    #1776103

    CM
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    Agree Sean.

    Clattenburg recently made some comments about Moss recently and questioned how he is ref, mainly focusing on his fitness. Another incident he let slip today was James getting knee’d in the back in front of him. The guy is not a PL standard ref.

    #1776109
    Alfie07
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    I thought his shoulder was 6 inches offside as he was leaning forward, Sean. Though TBF to Moss he gave a handball and booked Wan-Bissaka when he used his shoulder/chest in the match, so maybe they thought the shoulder/chest is part of the arm.

    He was leaning forward though so part of him was offside. VAR lines had him clearly offside so no idea why they chose not to go with VAR this time.

    The human side of VAR makes it too inconsistent. We were meant to get a season of proper results, yet it is no happening.

    #1776159

    Sean the sailor
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    Ye I thought it was offside aswell. Was it discussed after the game?

    I turned it off as Neville was banging on for 30 mins about why Pogba took utds pen. Silly analysis

    #1776160

    kopite
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    “That’s it from me with you Martial I’m not playing your game and I’m not going to feed your desire to try and troll Chelsea posters on here by responding to you in the way we saw previously between you and Liverpool posters on here albeit that there may be one or two good points in your Chelsea posts.”

    Nine nine nine: Why don’t you speak to Marshy about getting him banned. Sure you’ll get the support from a good number of posters, me included.

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