Transfer window Rating

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  • #1773104
    the specialone
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    Now that the transfer window is closed,atleast for the English market there certainly won’t be any ins.How would you rate this transfer window?

    Ins – Pepe – 72m
    Tierney – 25m
    David luiz – 8m
    Martinelli – 6m
    Ceballos – loan
    Gross spend – 111m

    Outs – Beilik -8m
    Kos – 5m
    Ospina – 1m
    Asano – 1m
    Amaechi – 2m
    Bennacer – 4m
    Iwobi – 35m
    total – 56m

    Net spend – 55m circa if the reported figures are right

    Status from last season
    GK – We’ve let go of Cech.Dosen’t make a huge difference but technically we didn’t really improve.Not a priority but that’s my take

    Def – We let Kos go and signed luiz as a replacement.Considering the circumstances it was a good deal and replacement for the short term.We also signed tierney,an injury prone albeit someone touted with loads of potential and a fantastic attitude.However,it’s a position we least needed to strengthen.
    Again Technially,we didn’t really improve.We failed to sign a back up to bellerin,and a Centre half.

    Midfield – We let go of Ramsey who was in his prime,and replaced him with ceballos.Although I do rate Ceballos.That again is not really an improvement.We also let go of a very underrated player in Iwobi.
    So if anything,we’ve gotten weaker there.

    Striker – We signed pepe,our record signing.Certainly improved there but it’s a signing which we should’ve made last season.I’m glad we let Nketiah go out on loan and to be really honest i don’t at all understand the martinelli signing.Spending 8m on a player who’s realistically going to get from little to no game time.A poor philosiphy yet again,unless we plan to loan him and sell him for a major profit in a couple of seasons.

    As for player departures,I think we’re still living in the 90’s.The figures we’ve sold some players at 1m,2m.A club of Arsenal’s stature should be getting more,in today’s markey.I also think we sold iwobi on the cheap.If you compare him to zaha he has a better goals+assists ratio and his transition from the middle 3rd to the final third is very important.We should’ve gotten atleast 45-50m for him.In today’s market that is.

    Summary – I see a lot of Arsenal fans are labelling this a “great” transfer window.Like seriously,do they even objectively analyse our transfer window?As I’ve proved above,we technically have hardly improved.The only real imporvement area has been to get that winger,albeit a good one.But we lost a good player in Iwobi.
    Overall Yes i am satisfied,but I wouldn’t put any pressure on Emery to perform wonders.I’d say the only advantage he has is that he’s coached this squad for one season atleast.But in terms of squad improvement,there has hardly been any.The top 3 would be between City,Liverpool and Spuds.And 4th place can be between the rest 3 of the top 6.

    Transfer window Rating – 6.5/10

    #1773144

    stev2bath1
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    Some people are very hard to please. This was a great window considering where we were a few weeks ago. Emery will have to carry the Can if it all goes pear shaped. No manager gets every thing they want but he has got close to it so I hope and think we could push on from last season which a few weeks ago I could not see.

    #1773264

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    TSO, I said we had a great window and no I didn’t amalyse it, I said it without thinking as it was the first thing that came into my head.

    How have you “proved” that we have hardly improved when there is so much judgement used? “Ramsey in his prime?” “very underrated player in Iwobi.”

    You have defended Mustafi time and again and you rate Xhaka. Did you rate Denilson, Cygan or Stepanov?

    I’m sorry but we would be mid table at best if you had to choose who plays.

    #1773309
    the specialone
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    You know you people say it’s a “great” window.It’s fine,you have your own optnion as your entitled to it.But atleast back it up with some analysis and facts.i’ve clearly listed how in each and every position who all we’ve got and who all we’ve let go.

    Ramsey at that age is much more valuable than Ceballos who’s younger and dosen’t have that much experience espescially in the PL.IWOBI is underrated.I’ve proved it far too many times you’re welcome to go through the history of my posts I’m not going to repeat it.

    On the contrary,It seems some people are too easy to please.First this club gives us the impression of a hopeless situation at the club.And fans are disgruntled,all they see is some new faces and that’s all it takes to please them.As i said,if you were to carefully analyse each and every position we have not at all strengthened massively and to label it a “great” transfer window is comical.Great in what sense?

    #1773326

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    I would say it was a 7/10 window.

    Mainly because I dont think we really adressed the issues in defence for this season.

    I would have liked to see the back of Miki and Mustafi before selling Iwobi. But i can understand that getting these two out will be difficult at least if we need to get some money in to balance the books. However Iwobi should have generated more money than he did. He has improved but what he lacks is that he sometimes just runs and looks at the ball and dont see his teamates and thats what was annoying about him.

    As for Tierney I have not seen him play so i cant judge him.

    Luiz not the defender i wanted and to be honest a loose canon waiting to explode.

    Biggest loss will be Ramsey and I dont think we have replaced him.

    Pepe i have not seen either so i really dont know what to expect.

    Martinelli while young i have liked what I have seen in preseason but again not ready in that sense.

    Willock i have hopes for so i really hope he is given a chance to stake a claim for a spot in the starting 11.

    Its a start but wheter this window was enough i really dont know. We have a lot of deadweight in the squad still.

    #1773455

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    So we all agree the team and squad is better than last year so we must agree it’s a positive window. Even if it’s an illusion TSO there is no denying Stan spent money and we have a better squad so job done. No one is saying It’s perfect but compared to what it was going to look like it’s an 8. Who we needed was a mater of opinion and it looks like they don’t want another right back where as I think we need one and I did not think we needed another left back but they wanted one. the centre half they wanted we couldn’t afford so that seems to be the only position they did not get what they wanted but they did get someone better than we have. I am gutted Iwobi was sold but understand why. His goal/assist return for a winger is poor but he is young and has potential. There is a reason zaha is nearly double the price I would suggest These managers and their scouts know More than us.

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    the specialone
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    Muffler – Well,atleast your honest with yourself.I feel a lot of Arsenal fans are just believing the hype.Like how many have actually watched the signings we’ve made enough,or even a bit at that.Be honest.I personally haven’t watched Tierney at all,a but of pepe and ceballos and none of mattinelli.David Luiz ofcourse for obvious reasons.

    Stev – It is a massive illusion,and people need to stap believing it.There has hardly been any quality improvement.Arsenal fans expectation before the window was so smashed that all it took was some “new faces” to please them.We let go of Kos and signed Luiz.Where’s the improvement?We signed tierney that dosen’t help us at this point of time.We let go of Ramsey and signed ceballos.Where’s the improvement?We let go of Iwobi and signed pepe.Obviously the only area of improvement but nonetheless gutted we didn’t let go of Ozil Mik instead.
    The problem is,Arsenal fans refuse to look at the transfer window objectively.All we’ve done is let go of expereinced players for unexperienced ones.Has there really been a quality improvement?Not Really.
    The new regime has conducted decent business,but I’ll stop at that.There has been no “ambition” or “intent” shown yet again if people actually understand what those two words mean.
    Really,I’m not trying to have a go at the club.I just look at the transfer window very reasonably,and so should you.

    #1773472

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    I think it was a real shame to sell Iwobi and it took the gloss off what would been a good window because we have signed some decent players. Let no one kid themselves though, Stan has not paid a penny. Our nett spend is under 50£m and comes from what the club has earnt, not him.

    I’m pleased with the players we’ve brought in but with the players we’ve lost I’m not sure the new players have improved us. I think for us to have a good season the youngsters are going to have play well and I have high hopes in Willock.

    #1773718
    the specialone
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    Thank you for stating some actual facts Fatop.Such as Kronke has not spent any money as some people claim.He’ll never spend any of his own money.It’s been well established.

    I back this board currently espescially raul but they’ve certainly given out an overimpression of the window.Like You said our net spend is also circa 50m which was just above our reported budget.

    And you put it perfectly by saying the iwobi sale took the gloss off.I’d simple classify this window satisfactory,nowhere near great.

    Also,there are rumours floating Inter have submitted a 50m bid + 15m addons for xhaka.No thank you.I’d classify this window into a horrendous one if this sale ends up happening.Selling our most important midfielder,everything flows through him and the fact that They’ve bid that much proves his worth.

    I wouldn’t sell him even if we were to sign a suitabe replacement for that amount.Not xhaka for sure.Cant see this club selling either unless they’re incredibly stupid.Enough of selling good players.

    We need to get the major players of our wage bill now,it will be seen how Raul deals with The likes of Ozil and miki

    #1773892

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    I’ve be not heard the Xhaka rumour – I cant see it myself as he’s too important but when Emery won’t name a captain until the window closes you do have to worry. It would be really stupid if we did as I think we’d miss him.

    #1773971
    steveosnakeeye
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    first off….TSO i owe you a packet of monstor mucnh! what flavour?!
    my view is a decent transfer window and from what i and many others expected far better than thought!

    happy with all the Ins though would have preferred a real good solid CB too instead of sideshow but for the money its great experience and cover….

    dont mind that Iwobi has gone, he is OK but wont hit the next level required IMHO and decent money, we have much better prospects at the club and you can only have so many…

    not heard anything about Xhaka going but (i know its a divisive subject/player) but would still be happy to let him go….

    hearing rumours that Ozil could go to DC united…if he went this would be a fantastic window given the constraints we have as a club…clear the wages and slowly you feel a younger team with more purpose is starting to emerge……

    7.5/10 (if Oz goes 8.5/10)

    #1774108
    the specialone
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    That’s OK steveO.Labelling the transfer window decent is fine,even good to an extent.But to label it great is ridiculous,all we’ve done is let expereinced players go and replaced them with new Faces.Dosen’t mean there’s a massive improvement in quality.

    Personally though I still can’t believe some people don’t rate xhaka.If you watch the game closely he’s so so underrated.Don’t focus on his mistakes which he has cut out anyway,just his general play.Everything flows through him.Last season he had the second most touches on the ball in the PL and wasn’t even in the top 5 for posession lost.Everything flows through him,his range of passing is fantastic.I’d label him an even better passer than ozil.there’s a reason Inter want him,not rocket science.Wouldn’t let him go at any cost.

    #1774139

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    I think people call it great because we though it was going to be shite. We have a better team even if that’s only slightly better and that was not looking possible a few weeks ago.
    Xhaka is boring now lets not spend all season you trying to defend him. I actually think he is Ok and agree that he has a good passing range but you watched the game so you cant say he has cut out his mistakes???? Lets move on from him!

    #1774367

    T_Adams
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    We don’t have Saliba yet but he hasn’t been mentioned and looks very promising.

    #1774392

    OttawaGunner
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    Overall more transfer activity than expected and if we get rid of Mustafi and El Nenny then the net spend is pretty low. Unlike some I think the signing of David Luiz could be a masterstroke. We have been missing “big characters” in the dressing room for a long long time. Luiz may have the odd rush of blood to the head but he is a proven winner and we need more players with that mentality. Also when Saliba shows up next week he has a ready made mentor in Luiz. Iowbi leaving I’m not too fussed, he had ample opportunity last year to nail down a place and he failed to do so. To add to the Xhaka debate, the man is stealing a living, neither an offernsive or defensive midfielder, constantly fails to anticipate plays and track runners so ends up hauling players down in bad areas – need I go on. If there is a 50M offer on the table, get him on the first plane to Italy.

    #1774462
    steveosnakeeye
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    Nketiah on loan at leeds, scored 2 last night in the cup, we really do have promising youngsters at the club and im excited for Saliba when he come in next year…if we can get one of our younf english CBs injury free for a season, holding or chambers then maybe one of those can step up…big ask though, but with luis and the greek things arent to bad and i think once we have our first choice RB and LB playing things will improve again and provide a more solid defence…excited to see a fit Tierny play

    #1774541
    the specialone
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    Stev – “I think people call it great because we though it was going to be shite”.
    Lol.So next season if this club says we have a zero transfer budget and ends up spending 50m will you label it as an extraordinary trasnfer window.A lot of Arsenal fans seem to have gotten carried away.It was a decent window I’ll stop at that as I’ve explained it every reasonably and logically.Aston villa spent 142m or something this summer,and remember its us who needed a squad overhaul.

    Anyways,My initial impression is good with the likes of Sanlehhi but won’t get carried away.Will judge them in two years.

    steve0- Always said Nketiah is the youngster that’s impressed me the most.It will be interesting what we end up doing with him.If we end up selling him it should be for a massive value.Apparently jeff rene adelaide might go to lyon for 25m.What a joke.Just sums up how pathetic the previous regime was.
    Excited with Nelson and willock.Also Tierney,have not seen him play even once but he seems to be highly rated.Espescially his attitude.So let’s see how he turns out.

    #1774557
    steveosnakeeye
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    Tierny came in to Arsenal and impressed the team by setting a new standing jump record previously held by Auba!

    not much of a thing but least shows he can defend headers at corners!

    slow news day!

    #1774597

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    Looking forward to seeing Tierny but think it will be a learning curve for him. At Celtic he is playing against shite every week, your team having 80% possession and your mistakes not being punished will be very different at Arsenal. He will need time to adjust. So I am keen to see how he copes. I had heard people who watch Scottish football say he is great going forward but not a great defender and another guy say the opposite. One thing the Scottish players all have is great attitude and no doubt he will work his nuts off for the team. Thought Monreal played well Saturday would keep him for one more year and I would sell Hulk as we could probably get good money for him but pointless keeping 3 left backs.
    TSO as sad as it may seem it is about expectation and ours were low so hence what they did was if not great, then you can have your good! We keep winning and we will all be happy!

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