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  • #1758946

    muffler_1
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    Im saying that we dont have a player of that abillity to lead at all in the team. Xhaka does not motivate when things go against or it being tough. Please give exampels when he has. Its more to it than just motivate. If you see a player fight for every inch regardless of how its going thats shows other players as well. If you are lazy and dont do the work yourself how can you then think that any player would do the work if you yourself dont? Lead by example is just that not just telling others what to do.

    #1758949
    steveosnakeeye
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    im not Xhakas biggest fan, though i did think he was a little improved last year

    im not sure saying he is Swiss captain and the Swiss are a good footballing nation really helps an argument, they are a bang average team at best!

    if i could i would get rid and upgrade him, given the current market and transfer funds though i dont think he is as important to move on as others in the squad though…

    being linked with Saint-Etienne’s 18-year-old French defender William Saliba, by all accounts although young he is a very good prospect

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    the specialone
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    Muffler – Just hypotheically speaking,if xhaka can’t track back it’s because it’s not his strenght.He’s one of those players who never hides,is always available for a pass.He has great vision on the ball,and despite being a player who plays in front of the defense he’s always a forward thinking passer trying to make things happen.His mistakes got relatively(hugely) lesser because he had someone like torreira beside him last season who can do the dirty work(although towards the end he drifted out a bit).In switzerland he has freuler who’s capable to do the same.Many if not all fans who had a go at him the season before last have reversed their opinions about him because he’s shown his true potential last season.He was also the best player in the final against chelsea for us.For me he offers something unique,a bit like Matic.if you analyse our plays and many good plays aways flow through him.For me there shouldn’t even be a debate about him,but for some once a scapegoat is made there’s no turning back.he could’ve sit on the bench and still got blamed.My problem also with Mustafi is I wouldn’t mind him seeing replaced but don’t tell me him going would be the end of the problems.Who are we going to get in?Don’t tell me The overglorified englishmen holding and chambers will cover for him.We will concede even more goals if they start.

    steve0 – Switzerland are ranked 9th in FIFA national rankings,above many top teams with a prestigious history.In what sense is that bang average?Just because they don’t have the “best team on paper” dosen’t mean they can’t be a good footballing side.For me,they have players who are not bigged up too much but are quite talented indeed.They also beat first placed belgium 5-2 to qualify for the Nations league final.They usually perform well in international tournaments and get out of their group stages atleast.
    While i’m at it,We should have a serious look at some of the swiss players.We should’ve got shaqiri last season itself.freuler is a very good player.Even de roon(dutch).But most of all I like the right back Kevin Mbabu.I’ve seen him play for young boys and switzerland and he’s impressive to say the least.Even recently in the nations league final he was constantly making overlapping runs and tracking back as well.We should seriously go in for him.

    #1759044
    steveosnakeeye
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    newcastle away in the first game….

    #1759145

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    Not his strenghts to track back how hard is that its about running and cover space he does 90% of that and then suddenly decides to let the opponent go free. Thats beeing lazy and not do the work 100% thats not a leader quality to have.

    Is he the only problem no of course not even Mustafi is we all agree the problem is all over but thats not the debate here. We are debating if he has leadership qualities or not in some aspects he has but not in the major ones. No one in our team has that.

    Would you listen to someone that tells you to not switch off when the one telling you does it more often than anybody? To properly motivate others you need to lead by example as that then gives others a good path to follow.

    Xhaka does have attributes that are good but again not the issue here its about leadership. So Im not out to make him a scapegoat just saying I expect more from a captain that Xhaka in my view dont offer. Is he the worst choice no he is not but thats not really a high standard we have in the team so its not really a contest.

    I cant pick one in this team that would be a suitable choice for captain as we have zero leaders. Pick Xhaka sure all it does is highlight the fact we settle for for second or 4th best in all aspects of this club and that needs to change

    #1759180
    steveosnakeeye
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    Xhaka is a mid table player at best and thats what we are now….

    NO other top team would have him in the squad or 11….

    we can do so much better bu8t we wont and we dont have the cash anyway

    TSO your last few posts are the same as ever, you have the audacity to attack Arsenal fans about Emry or certain players YOU like.

    its OPINION and yours is in the minority (doesnt make it wrong) but would mind ever so much if the rest of us arsenal fans have an opinion about OUR club and players?

    cheers

    #1759222
    the specialone
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    I don’t want to get too much into the Xhaka leadership argument,I’ve said my piece and to be honest it’s not the most important thing right now.In short,I do think that footballing ability or a lack of has little to do with what a player can offer on the pitch.Xhaka switching on and off,he’s made way less mistakes than before.And for me in the current crop of players i can’t think of anyone else to take the armband,as I’ve said the swiss manager also thinks so I’m certainly no talking gaga.

    SteveO – I get it people don’t like to see things repeated on again,but I’m not the only one.There are old posters who constantly come back and blame the likes of xhaka and mustafi as though they’re are only problem and as soon as they leave we will magically become superior.So i find that boring as well,and I’ll find every reason to counter that.As for the things,a 40m budget.I or anyone else should not have much to discuss about that.I know I’m repeating myself but only because a lot of empashsis should be placed on the fact that a club of Arsenal’s stature should not have a 40m budget.Even if We were to subjectively accept and discuss it,I’ve really run out of options on who I think we could get for that much.Remember,Ramsey a pivotal player has left and to replace a player of his quality would eat up all of that budget to say the least.And selling other players to supplement the club’s transfer budget,is something this club has been the worst at.We certainly can’t afford to sell the good players,as that would weaken up one way or the other.so currently Arsenal are stuck and apart from the owner pumping in his own funds there seems to be no hope for the club,at all.

    #1759232

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    I agree with you there £40m is a laughable budget for a club like Arsenal.

    We can debate players we have and want to get rid but fact is many players we have would not get anywhere near another top club. But then again we are a midtable team more than a top club so having that standard of players is something we have to get used to. Because I dont see us changing under the current regime.

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    steveosnakeeye
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    muffler and TSO, agree with both, good posts

    #1759585

    Madmaxsdaddy
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    Good point Muffler – the sooner we get used to the fact that we are nowhere near the Champions League and even if we did qualify we dont have the squad nor the manager to compete. That’s just the way it is. Coming back to transfers – we do have some serious issues as I see it:
    1) We need a squad overhaul so badly it needs three transfer windows to do it.
    2) We have lost 4 first team players. Let that sink in. Thats 22% of our matchday squad gone. And yes, they were all players that would either be playing or on the bench (regardless of what you think of them). Add to that the following players with either an uncertain future, desperately need to be moved on, or past their best – Ozil, Kos, Monreal, Mustafi (sorry TSO but Mustafi is probably one of the worst defenders I have seen in an Arsenal shirt in years – and I’m looking at that objectively with my non deluded, reasonably knowledgeable about football (I’m a level 3 coach) hat on). We are now upto 8 players or almost 50% of the 1st team matchday squad!!!!
    So – you simply cannot make that many changes to any squad. So, my view is that the only player that we should be getting out the door is OZIL simply because of his wages and value for money.
    I keep reading that Emery is under pressure to get rid of Ozil, to sign this player or that player. No he isn’t…it’s not his job. Its Raul’s job. I think Venai and Raul really have their reputation on the line in this window.

    #1759609

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    As much as I dislike Mustafi, stepanovs was worse.

    To be honest i cant see anything happen in this window. I dont we have a plan at all and even if we do the money will become an issue

    #1759615

    Madmaxsdaddy
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    I forgot about stepanovs… Sorry. Mistafi is still not that good….

    #1759623

    fatmop
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    Cygan, Djourou, Senderos, Santos we’ve had a few dodgy defenders, is Mustafi worse than them? We always had however great players in front of them.

    The trouble I think, and the main priority that needs addressing is the lack of creativity and goals in midfield. With Ramsey leaving we are desperately short. I’d like to see youth given a chance and in Willock and Smith-Rowe we have decent prospects but we’re going to need at least one decent midfielder to come in surely?

    Also with Welbeck leaving I think we need another striker/winger. Then and only then do we invest in defence and with Monreal getting older I think a left back is needed before centre back.

    #1759629
    the specialone
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    Mustafi the worst defender we ever had?Nonsense.People so easily forget he was a world cup winner.He’s made many mistakes last season for which he cannot be relied upon but like honestly why is he still the topic of discussion.
    Did mustafi play in the final?Where we got battered by chelsea and conceded 4 goals.Well if he had then we wouldn’t have heard the end of how he was responsible for conceding 4 goals.Oh but hey,I guess Koscielny and Sokratis get a free pass.

    Yet again another example,once a scapegoat is made…Stop Judging unfairly is all I’m saying.And getting rid of players won’t solve our problem.Signing top class talents will.So please shift our focus there.
    You guys see next season If it won’t be mustafi then the overglorified englishmen Holding will be found out(If he already hasn’t),presuming we don’t sign other defenders and he gets playing time.wait,actually,the fans will start blaming Emery and not holding.Because he’s a fan favourite isn’t he…

    #1759645
    the specialone
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    There are rumours torreira might be heading to Ac milan and Kessie coming to Arsenal as a part of a swap deal.Now I wouldn’t want to lose torreria,because then we’ll get weaker but I want Kessie At Arsenal.He’s a fantastic box to box,and to be honest I really can’t beleive ac milan would be willing to part ways with him.I’m sure there will be other top clubs interested in him.Him and Dennis praet wouldbe good additions.

    However,it has also been reportedly said that Arsenal have moved out in the race for carrasco.Personally I’m happy because I don’t want him,we already have iwobi and miki.We need someone like Zaha or pepe.Howver,the reason we have moved out of the race seems to be because Arsenal don’t want to fork out 30m for a player.
    What absolute shithoussery is this,we can’t be willing to spend even 30m on a player.
    And we were promised years ago we’d be competeting against top teams at this very moment.
    God Help this club.

    Because the direction this club is going in we just might officially be a midtable club now.

    #1759704

    muffler_1
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    Come on dont use that WC winner with Mustafi again, yes he was part of the squad played 72 min in total and has not featured in the NT since then.

    Is he the biggest issue no the whole defence is. So even if he is sold it wont solve a single thing. There I agree with you but there are degrees even when it comes being bad out of the bad. With or without him we wont have a good defence. Unless we start buying better defenders but without any money we cant even do that.

    Carrasco is too expensive for us and that says it all really.

    #1759716

    Jeff
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    For God’s sake- read what people have written TSO before red flag day comes up with you again! Xhaka, as has been said, is a mid-table player at best and as for Mustafi, he’s there along with Cygan and Silvestre as having a mistake in him every 10 minutes or so. Xhaka will thrive in Germany,which is sub-standard to the Premiership. He is ok in Internationals as it’s a much slower pace and would do ok in Italy as that’s played at a walking pace. In the premiership, he’s hopeless as people who have watched him for three seasons can see. He’s slow, he has the turning circle of an oil tanker, switches off, can’t track back and pulls the shirt of anyone who goes past him and gives away free kicks in dangerous situations. Every time I go to the ground, meet up at pub before hand etc, there are hundreds of fans up in arms about him as there are on social media, so get it into your head he’s crap and should be shipped out. Trouble is who would pay the extortionate fee we paid for him- £35m? Nobody, the Inter Milan thread you referred to was planted by one of his family apparently and the 50m euros was a joke. IM finished 10 points behind Napoli, who even we despatched without too much bother, so they are no great shakes at the moment. As for leadership, jumping on a scorer’s back, mouthing off at refs, kicking the opposition when we need to keep the ball in play chasing a game and telling players to applaud the fans is not leadership. Mertesacker, another “World Cup Winner”, did the same to Ozil when we conceded 6 at City a few seasons ago. The German was the worst player on the pitch, so such gestures mean nothing. As for captain,if Emery keeps him in the club, let alone make him captain, we’ll be in mid-table obscurity for years to come. Get the crap out, Xhaka, Mustafi, Mkhitaryan to start- no-one will take Ozil, even on loan.

    #1759784

    stev2bath1
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    Obviously its Clear Xhaka splits opinion but its pointless going back and forth trying to change the others view its not going to happen. Just have to accept some people don’t agree and see things differently. Saying players are crap and quoting a poor game is as lame as saying they are worldies when they have a good one. In reality we have less than a handful of players in the squad that we can not improve on. The ones that we all agree on are the front two. You could put a case for every other member of the squad that we could improve on. Saying all that we have no money, No one wants our players that we would sell so we will end up with most of the squad from last year and then get creative in the transfer market. I would concentrate on what we could buy and I think a right back, box to box midfielder and a winger are priorities. I would love a centre half but not sure we can afford anyone who is guaranteed to be better than what we have. We have six if you include Chambers and all are average at best. if we do manage to sell any players in the mean time then replacements hopefully will be lined up.

    #1759802
    steveosnakeeye
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    maybe holding can step up, he looked good in some games las years, just a bit injury prone and inconsistent

    but Emery could change tactics to help the defense (as well as get them coached better)

    #1760029

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    I Agree in terms of the coaching and the tactics that’s what he will have to do and he will have to come up with a system that works with the players that we have. Holding was hopeless the season before but looked decent before the injury although we were still conceding soft goals. He will need to come back even better and I am not sure even that will be enough.

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