What if Ole beats Poch

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  • #1711063
    Ika
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    We play Spurs away after Newcastle and Poch is the obvious number 1 target for the club however, if we go to Wembley and beat Spurs convincingly will that make Ole the favorite for permanent position.

    My preference for the permanent Job is Ole and this is the way I see it.

    Zidane its the Zidane/Madrid way
    Poch its the Poch way
    Ole its the United way

    After the last 2 heavyweight names appointments failed I now firmly believe that its more about the right fit rather than the experience or success of a coach, look at the following examples of managers successful at clubs they played at.

    Zidane Madrid player no experience as a manager before success at Madrid
    Di Matteo Chelsea player poor job at West Brom as a manager before success at Chelsea
    Pep Barca player experience as manager coached b team before success at Barca
    Enrique Barca player poor spell in Italy average in Spain before success at Barca
    Dalglish Liverpool player no experience as a manager before success at Liverpool
    Conti Juventus player managed mid to lower seria a teams before success at Juve
    Simione Athletico player managed in Argentina before success at Athletico
    Del Bosque Madrid player no experience as a manager before success at Madrid
    Ancelotti Milan player sacked by Juve as manager before success at Milan

    #1711076
    Alfie07
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    It will be interesting to see our points total under Ole v’s rest of the PL until the end of the season.

    If Ole does well against those above us in the remaining fixtures then there is no reason not to hire him.

    It’s only been two games so far, but we couldn’t have wished for a better start. Some big name players to come back too, and if he can get those firing then we should be able to close the gap and make qualifying for the CL interesting.

    #1711087
    redblood
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    Lets wait till the end of the season,and then make a decision.Beating Spurs is only one game and does not make Ole a better manager than Poch,simples!!!

    #1711098

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    No matter what happens, I think the club want Poch and will try and get him in the summer. If we can’t get him then I think they’ll go for Ole or Giggs depending on how the next 5 months shakes out.

    #1711160
    MacGuffin
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    As somebody said, it’s just one game. There’s more chance of him being offered the position permanently if Pogba & Martial are so happy they don’t want to leave !!!

    #1711331
    theMartial Art
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    We have made seven years of poor decisions. The next choice is clear and obvious, Mauricio Pochettino. Woodward will have to move heaven and earth to bring Pochettino to OT. Solskjaer is only interim.

    #1711354
    shanksy
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    So what are you gonna call Poch when he comes, martialsmeg? Remember Louis Van Genius? Hahahahahahahahaha you crack me up smeggy.

    #1711371

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    Stalking much Shanksy. Troll him as much as you want on the main page but leave the Utd page to Utd fans.

    #1711375
    Ika
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    Martial Art how do we know Poch is the right fit ?

    Why do we always go after the biggest hit look at the list I gave no big hitters in management before they achieved greatness for the club’s they played for because they were engraved in the club traditions you cant ignore that.

    Sergio Ramos love him or hate him said something very important about the attitude of modern players *the management of players is more important than the technical knowledge of the coach*

    So will Poch be able to manage an ego like Pogba or Sanchez who have alot of power commercially at the club and won’t be sold if there are any conflicts with Poch as this is not Adebayor and Kabul at spurs, all the players in his team are players he made stars so they naturally respect.

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    The board is in the perfect position. It is their stated fact that they are looking for the best manager out there. They have 5 months to look and negotiate and if in the meantime Ole does a super job they can sign him up. He’s the lower cost and safer option

    #1711413
    theMartial Art
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    @ika – Pochettino is the outstanding candidate, given how he has turned Spurs into a serious threat that can go toe-to-toe with any club in Europe on its day. The things that make Pochettino such a good fit for Spurs are also the things that may make him at least as good a fit at United. One is that both clubs have a pedigree of attacking, entertaining football, where nurdling 1-0 wins through tactical cunning is definitely not the way. Another is that both clubs have a very good record of nurturing their own young talent and also of giving it a go in the first team. Those have been the hallmarks of Pochettino’s work at White Hart Lane but they are also precisely what United’s board understandably will look at and say “After three very different mis-fires, a manager like that, committed to playing entertaining football as well as to giving youth a chance, is exactly the United way we now need to get back to”.

    The big difference is the third factor. United have always allied the youth policy with serious dosh splashed on big-name signings. Most good judges reckon the latter is the absolute precondition for Spurs to have any chance of starting to collect senior trophies rather than just deserved plaudits for their play. And most also think Spurs simply don’t have the readies, or even if they do the inclination under Daniel Levy, to spend that sort of money.

    Accordingly Pochettino may look at Old Trafford and see it as the best bet if he wants to take the next step and to start actually winning things.

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    shanksy
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    I’ll troll the cunt wherever I like mate.

    #1711431
    shanksy
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    Besides manthistle, I’ve never come on here and disrespected Man Utd.

    #1711440
    redblood
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    shanksy-Just admit it m8,you love tMA.lol.

    #1711449
    Ika
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    Martial Arts all excellent points I can’t argue with but I see all those traits in Ole with the added ingredient that cut him open and you will see united gleaming which i dont see in Poch who could see Real as a better job.

    I want a manager who sees united as the biggest job in the world and who is young and hungry.

    #1711465
    MacGuffin
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    Well said ika !!

    #1711476

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    Yes that’s true but you could say the same about Bruce and giggs would you give them the job? It’s all relative whichever club you manage. Ole has 6 months. This is the biggest job make no mistake and Poch knows it and your criteria IKA is wonderful nostalgia but it is also conceivable a manager like poch can grow to love the job and club. There’s always a start Fergie had no united connections.

    #1711487
    MacGuffin
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    united_we_win – Fergie had a rough first few years and but for a FA cup win would have been sacked. Would Fergie have survived were he manager today? A FA cup win didn’t save LvG and a Europa cup didn’t save Jose. The advantage the right ex-player has is that he has full support from fans and media from the start. None of our previous 3 managers had that. Many fans were against them from the start. NOBODY is against Ole.

    And whilst a Fergie may grow to learn about and love the club that takes many years. Could the manager last that long. Ex player like Ole hits the ground running telling players to enjoy themselves, be creative, attack attack and use the flanks.

    The last 3 managers were all established managers with pedigree (yes Moyes had a pedigree of results on a shoestring). And all didn’t work out. Let’s see if the other road is better. After Busby United went for the top managers of the day in Sexton, O’Farell, Atkinson. Fergie, despite his success in Scotland and Europe, was not regarded as a top manager. He was like Jose after Porto.

    If Ole fails then Poch by all means but Ole needs to fail. If he does decent in 6 months then he deserves the chance even if its on a 1 year rolling contract.

    #1711507

    James Marshment
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    Shanksy – best you stay off this page and keep to your own thank you.
    Can’t go round saying what you are!

    Failure to comply will result in you being banned…

    Thanks

    #1711529
    hatters
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    I reckon we are already in the wilderness so we might as well try a different strategy from before (ie. let young managers from the “ol boys club” take over).

    As has been mentioned, we have tried the established professionals as managers after SAF and fallen short so perhaps a Manchester United player requires a different approach to say, a Chelsea player.

    I desperately want Solskjaer to succeed. He’s my favourite all time player and he’s genuinely a good man with a lot of grey matter between his ears. If he impresses in the next six months then I want him to be permanently instated and I want him to be given serious money in the transfer market.

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