what the hell's going on?

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  • #679690

    mtal61
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    We’re shooting ourselves in the foot by individual mistakes and rank foolhardiness by an assortment of players from one game to the next.A London derby was always going to be tough,we needed 11 cool heads out on that pitch.Matic was a star performer in mid-week then pants 3 days later,he let us down badly y’day.OK he got done and it’s understandable he took one for the team with the 1st booking but the second one?…wtf,he’s not stupid he knew he walking on a tightrope!.FFS,it don’t rain…it pours with Jose talking his way into trouble in the tunnel at half time and being banished to the stands…on top of all that furrore in his one-man fight against the FA with a stadium ban pending.This is a flaming nightmare!

    #679708

    nine nine nine
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    The perfect summary mtal.

    #680146

    SensibleS7
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    I’m still worried about our visit to you guys, though much will depend on how we fare this afternoon against the Saints.

    #680158

    nine nine nine
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    Nil, whether the real Chelsea turn up v Liverpool next Saturday won’t depend on what Liverpool do this afternoon though mate.

    Two very different games and two very different situations.

    #680173

    SensibleS7
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    Nine, obviously from our point of view it would be a confidence-booster. However, we know in recent times, we don’t particularly have a good record at the Bridge and nothing to be taken for granted so in fairness, I take a draw right now.

    Cheers

    #681673
    liquidator
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    It does me no credit, but I am one of those who cannot bring myself to watch highlights of games we lost – I’d rather sulk! Therefore, I have seen nothing of the game on Saturday, but could just about bring myself to read one or two reports. By all accounts we played reasonably well, with the small margins going against us, and with a bit of luck might have got something out of the game, but just at the moment we cannot rely on too much luck (other than against Villa), as the Kiev game also showed.

    I’m assuming if Abramovich hasn’t seen the game, his advisers have, and hopefully they would have reported back that we were unfortunate to lose the game, so the reports that Mourinho is on the brink of being sacked are hopefully just wishful thinking on the part of certain reporters. However, a trot of bad results (quite a long trot now!) will inevitably attract such headlines. I think we have to be focused on the long term, and I am still convinced that taking a three year view, we are more likely to win trophies with Mourinho as manager, than without him. Therefore, I hope Abramovich shows some character in sticking by him, and we as the supporters have to do the same, for a manager that has bought us so much success. There is of course the huge amount of compensation we would have to pay Mourinho if we were to sack him, so hopefully that will deter Abramovich from doing so.

    As for Mourinho, whilst on a personal level I enjoy his utterances and to a certain extent the controversy it causes, he can only successfully get away with it, if we are successful as a team, and right now, we are not. All it is doing is drawing unwanted attention to us, and placing him under even greater scrutiny. I have never thought Mourinho as a cold and calculating character, rather a highly emotional one, and this is the first time in his career he has had to cope with a prolonged period of failure (relatively speaking), and frankly, he isn’t coping well, emotionally lashing out and blaming everyone else. Sometimes, he is right, it is the officials fault or whatever, but that is irrelevant, he just looks churlish.

    So I actually think that an essential part of our redemption has to be Mourinho having a long hard look at his recent antics, and deciding that at least until we turn things round on the pitch, they have to end. His pre and post match comments have to be the most boring and anodyne imaginable. He has to give the media and authorities nothing, and channel all his energies into improving the performances of the team.

    I cant believe that someone at the club is not giving him this advice, but there is a question of whether his emotional personality is capable of adapting to it. However, ultimately he is a very bright guy, and I would like to think his intelligence will shine though and he will see he needs to curb his natural inclinations and do what is best for the team and the club, and put a sock in it! Otherwise, I can see us going back to the old routine of recruiting and sacking managers every couple of years for the foreseeable future.

    Come on the Chels!

    #682051

    mtal61
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    Theliquidator…imo Jose is the one who can take us forward,we lose him we’re back to managerial merry-go-rounds again that will set us back years.Anybody’s guess how Roman will view the situation,will he say it’s a results business and not helped with all the furore of Jose and the FA…enough is enough or will Roman stick with Jose through thick and thin hoping he can turn things around perhaps writing this seaon off if the damage is not desperately nad and starting afresh from mext season?.The crescendo to Jose’s fate is getting louder and louder in the media and every other team no matter how mediocre wamt to play us NOW the way we’re performing.Jose didn’t do himself any favours getting sent to stands and exacebating the situation further with this ongoing run-in he has with the FA.We need Jose to conduct himself in an orderly fashion and keep his nerve…if only to lead the way for the players to follow.If Jose resigns himself that he’s a sitting duck then all it does is convey doom and gloom to the players.The odds are piling up against Jose and unless he can smarten up and keep his composure under extre pressure I don’t think he’s going to hold out…hope I’m wrong though!

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    Luckydestiny
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    If the players dont care enough for jose to fight for him while he is under this pressure, then he is not the manager he was.

    His biggest strength was that the vast majority of players have been willing to fight tooth and nail for him at every club he has been at, and if that goes, he is no longer special.

    I have nowhere near the intelligence or knoweledge needed to say with confidence what I think are the reasons for our bad start. If we over excerted ourselves last season and this is a hangover from last season and a poor pre season, then we should see the upside sooner rather than later. Maybe the problem is that the confidence has dropped as a result of the poor start and that even when we reach our physical best, which we should be at already, we are psychologically handicapped and without the belief we can come out of it.

    I really hope jose can fix this as he is paid handsomely to do so, and also because I love the narcissistic filho da puta!:-)

    #682144

    nine nine nine
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    Luckydestiny, the players fought for him and the club in both the Kiev game and the West Ham game and the evidence of both those 90 minutes Jose has not lost the dressing room!

    #682147

    nine nine nine
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    the liquidator & mtal. Great posts guys 100% agree with the both of you!

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    liquidator
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    mtal/ld/999 – We all seem to be of a mind, and clearly Mourinho still has the support of the match going fans, which must feel very important to him right now. Hopefully Abramovich also senses that and it gives him the time to turn things round. He will, sooner or later, as long he doesn’t self destruct in the meantime!

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    nine nine nine
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    Tom, the support that Mourinho still has from the match going fans seems to be the the one thing that the media etc are overlooking but of course no one inc the media have a clue as to what Roman is really thinking, seemingly he wants to give Jose the chance to sort all this out but given how tempestuous Jose is right now you just never know how this will eventually work out.

    Somebody in the club just needs to take Jose’s self destruct button away from him.

    #682351
    Moos
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    shocking thats all that can be said and not talking about the many defeats but the disgusting behaviour-the club is getting a terrible name everywhere in the footballing world.

    #682366
    Romansdirtypants
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    Lads see comments pre Wet ham game. Jose has cost himself and the team. That makes him a stupid twat. If he can’t control himself, how can he control a dressing room? Im going to go and change my pants now… they’re as odious and smelly as a Jose press conference.

    #682540
    bort
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    Agree with liquidator & mtal.

    Someone really does need to slap Mourinho and bring him into line.

    At a personal level, what is his wife doing? What does his wife think of this behavior? My wife would have words with me if I was dealing with the situation like this.

    Mourinho still has my full support but he needs to start showing us fans he has a bit more class/composer. Mourinho needs to start representing Chelsea FC and it’s millions of supporters and not himself.

    #682564

    nine nine nine
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    Had Matic not been so foolish in getting himself sent off as he did by blocking people off right in front of the lino when he was already on a yellow card and had been lucky to escape being penalised for another incident only minutes earlier none of all of the nonsense that followed would have happened.

    Jose and Chelsea charged now by the FA do goodness knows where all this is going to end.

    #682573

    mtal61
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    Luckydestiny @ 12;56…I don’t buy it that over-exertion achieving what we achieved last season or a badly planned pre-season could be the catalyst for the slump we’re experiencing.Maybe it’s cockiness and our players believing they can exist on past glories so don’t have to put in the graft on the pitch,that we should be still too good or we can still hold our own against anybody with the array of talent we got.Or maybe we went into the new season thinking we can carry on where we left of and not varying our play to keep our opponents guessing meaning we’ve become predictable.Just like how we do our homework and try to prepare for the opposition before a game they do likewise but we’re finding that if they stop us or scupper our plans how we want to play the game we seem absolutely flummoxed and have no answer to it.There must be a common denominator why the spine of the team are suffering a loss of form all at the same time,surely that must be down to a bad result adversely affects confidence,a series of bad results and confidense is very low or non-existent and of course expectations of being an ‘elite’ club with top quality players only compounds the situation.Off the field squabblings with the FA the media and a baying public wanting to see a big club getting scalped adds to the pressure.We are ‘on the ropes’ and atm there’s no ease up or respite to give us time to clear our heads to fight back trying to retrieve the situation.Seems like not only are struggling against the opposition we’re also struggling against ourselves.We’re a vicious cycle that’s going to hard to get out of.

    #682579
    Blueowner
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    One bad season I can still handle but the embarrassing behavior of management and some players has now gone too far, something needs to be done urgently, we have become the laughing stock of the world and ut hurts to hear all these unsavoury comments about the club.

    #682594
    Luckydestiny
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    Mtal, The reason we were late starting pre season as far as I could gather was that jose believed the squad needed extra rest, that made sense considering how many games we played last year and how little we rotated, and suggests that we over used a lot of players, and the poor pre season could have been the price we had to pay for bringing home the title. Our squad was not as strong as city’s and we needed a very tight group of players to play a lot of games.

    I do agree that over confidence could have played a factor and have previously, when asked about chelsea’s bad start, pointed to under preparation and over confidence as possible factors, but there are obviously many and I honestly cant get my head around it.

    You are right imo that we are far too predictable and we have been since the start of the calender year really.

    #682624
    Luckydestiny
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    999@1:20pm, fair comments fella and I desperately hope that it continues, but previously to these two games, whenever we have gone behind I have seen a lot of players going missing but, again, I hope that is over, that we are on the up, and I certainly agree that it would be nonsense to suggest he definately has lost the dressing room when the last two games have shown good evidence that he has not.

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