Where the league was lost

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    Mikus
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    I’d say Aguero is probably the difference between City & us, and this was illustrated in the game at the Etihad when he scored that incredible finish. Maybe it’s just my perception, but Aguero doesn’t seem to get lauded like other players do. He’s their big player who tends to get them over the line, be it on the last day in 2012, against us in January, and vs Burnley the other day. We’ve just lacked that kind of match winner when a game is starting to drift, particularly in those 0-0 draws.

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    Rob Fort Worth TX
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    Mikus, one of the greatest players ever to play in this league. Like Ibrahimovic, he’ll still be scoring goals in his 50’s. Brilliant player.

    #1746843

    gingerlfc
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    And yet according to this Salah has had more of an impact this season than Aguero…

    Incredible Mohamed Salah stat makes a mockery of awards season omission

    #1746865

    Mikus
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    Ginger, incredible stat. Let’s be honest, when you look at the table we’re talking very fine margins here. I think Salah has had the more difficult job to shoulder more of the burden of such goals because City have tended to start the game more on the front foot than we have this season thus increasing the chances of them breaking the deadlock with other players (that would count against Aguero in the comparison). Also Aguero has 5 less appearances than Salah this season. In the more nervy pressure big games that City have had recently where they’ve not quite had the attacking verve, Aguero has tended to get them over the line be it through the assist in the game vs Spurs, or a goal vs Burnley. And in the biggest game of the season at the Etihad, he broke the deadlock. He just tends to give them that cutting edge when it really matters. Bit like Drogba did with Chelsea, though look, as I say, we are talking fine margins here. If you now exported our team as it is now back to the start of the season, we may well have wrapped up the league by now. But looking back at the season as it’s actually happened, we’ve obviously lacked a certain cutting edge, which Aguero has personified in the big moments this season.

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    Songman
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    City’s cutting edge is money, pure and simple

    #1746868

    gingerlfc
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    Mikus exactly what I’ve been think re very fine margins.
    Whoever wins it’ll be by a very fine margin.
    City won the other night by millimeters.
    They won against us by because of millimetres.
    Birth clubs will have accrued a crazy amount of points.
    However as the article shows Salah has been the cutting edge for us more than Aguero has been for them.
    It’s been a crazy brilliant fantastic season and it’s still not over yet.

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    Ashtonblue
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    Whatever happens guys its been a great season for both of our clubs, I hope that we can win the domestic treble as it has never been done before and I also hope that you guys can lift the CL.

    #1746919

    isotonic
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    I think some of you have missed the point. It is not about a direct comparison between Salah and Aguero – more like they have more star players that can change a game than we do up front and in midfield which makes life a lot easier for the likes of Aguero to come in and score in big moments – Salah is expected to change a big game more often as he doesn’t have the luxury of the Silva’s, Sane, Sterling, Jesus and co..

    It all comes down to fine margins which imo is simply down to the squad size in terms of top quality players..

    City dominate games pretty much from start to end..we do in bursts which leave us a little more exposed and appear less in control over the whole 90 mins

    I do think that City will win the league, sadly we will probably miss out but with the squad we have we should be very proud of the effort – lets hope we win the CL if we can get past Messi and Co!

    Just to add I would say Aguero is more clinical than Salah and puts away his chances more therefore in big games when chances are few and far between – Aguero more often delivers

    #1746943
    chelsea1967
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    Anfield’s best run in nine years in sight & Liverpool’s chance to go seven points clear

    Re your own press above. The press too focused on the number of points lead this far from the end. Maybe the players do the same adding pressure on themselves. Human nature I guess. Whatever happens getting 97 points and ending 2nd would be insane and I would feel for you guys. That would absolutely destroy the previous record points haul for 2nd place. Not sure what it was. Anyway stranger things have happened. An injury or two to key players or a red card or two and City could fall over. Concentrate on winning your last two and let the rest take care of itself. Best wishes against Barcelona also 🙂

    #1747208

    pinezes69
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    The difference is the money. City has more quality players than we have and ‘better’ bench. Besides we had more serious injuries than city like Ox and Gomez.

    #1747226

    nine nine nine
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    In a Title race you are competing with the team or teams in that title race with you be it won on 78 points or 98 points.

    When Liverpool went to the Etihad they were 7 points clear and could have made it 10 they didn’t and the gap was reduced to 4 which has seen City on an incredible run chip away at it and now be one point ahead.

    It’s not over yet and stranger things have happened but if Liverpool don’t win the title I think you have to look to the game at OT v a very understrength United that was a game that in similar circumstances City would have won and Liverpool only drew and in such games do titles turn.

    Whatever happens though you’ve had a season to be proud of.

    #1747291
    Narthraal
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    Hindsight is something we Liverpool fans need to stop doing!

    Fuck the past, fuck the games we could and should have won, we did magnificent keeping up with City and their abusive, non humans right, oil money!!

    We may not win the title but my god, we are still by far the victors of this league just by being where we are with the resources we had compared to City, United and Chelski.

    #1747297
    MrMakaveli
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    Ashton Blue, there are a few city lads on footydebate btw. you should give it a look 😉

    As for your sentiments, right back at you. What both our clubs have done is create probably the best title race in PL history, which only enriches the experience for the eventual winners.

    You lads coasted last season but if ye do it this time, I bet any money that this one means more to you? To have 2 teams break 90 points (never happened before), pushing eachother all the way with win after win. I honestly believe that liverpool have done so well that even coming second is worth something. It’s not a trophy but we’ll have more points than Fergie ever managed… and that’s saying something.

    Appreciate the well wishes in the CL. If we were to miss out on the PL, **** it would be so special to lift big ears again.

    #1747327
    Ashtonblue
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    MrMak,thanks for the tip re footydebate I will defo take a look.You are right the pressure this season has made this to me the most exciting premier league ever (Nothing beats the Aguero moment tho especially seeing the faces of the United players/fans up at Sunderland) Compared to last seasons results the improvement/consistency of Liverpool has been amazing. Best wishes once again for tonight as I believe whoever wins your tie will lift the CL.

    #1747428

    shaunk
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    I don’t know what’s wrong with some people.

    If we win our last two games we will finish with 97 points.

    97!!

    Over the course of a whole season what the hell more do you expect form the team?

    99 points?!

    It’s ridiculous. Truly ridiculous that people are pointing to specific games where the title ‘was lost’ or where the ‘title turned’

    What about all the games where we scored late to take all 3 points? Why aren’t you pointing to those games saying we should have drawn yet we showed the quality and desire to win.

    Liverpool have been ASTONISHING this season. Lost 1 game. Conceded 20 goals. On course for 97 POINTS!!!

    It just so happens… as gutting as it is… Man City are just better. As they should be with the money they have spent over the course of a decade. It’s incredible that we have kept pace with them.

    AND THERE IS STILL A CHANCE WE MAY END AS CHAMPIONS!

    But if we don’t…. just soak in what this team has done this year. Rejoice in the number of games we have won, great football we have played and amazing goals we have scored.

    If you can’t laud this team because on paper they finished 2nd, if you think it doesn’t matter if you finish 2nd on 97 points or 77 points.. if you have such a binary view of the world that 2nd place means nothing no matter the context….. then maybe you should go find something in this world that does bring you joy.

    If Man City finish as champions then the will have WON the title.

    LIVERPOOL DID NOT LOSE THE TITLE.

    NOW…CANNOT wait for the Barca game tonight 😉

    #1748159

    gingerlfc
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    Man City v Leicester is probably our last big hope for points to be dropped.
    Have been looking at City’s results lately. Load of wins by a single goal and quite a few 1-0 wins. Narrow wins that could easily be a draw. Their last game for example was won by mms.

    Kompany lately has been starting, I imagine for his experience, but he’s been shown up a number of times and has been lucky to stay on the pitch a few times.
    Vardy up against him will be interesting.
    Fernandinho very likely out too and he’s a massive player for them defensively.
    Rodgers has done really well since joining Leicester and they’re full of confidence being the 3rd most in form team in the Prem. Vardy is back scoring again and you have to go back to Feb to find a game they havnt scored in.

    If I could hand pick a non top 6 team to try to take points of City it would be Leicester at the min.
    They love to play on the counter and have definate set piece threats.

    #1748207
    Red Herring
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    Ginger>> Yes, I agree with you about Leicester, but it’s also important this weekend how the results pan out at the bottom the league. We should be rooting for a Cardiff (home) win against Palace and Arsenal to beat BHA at the Emirates. If that combination of results happens, then it means that BHA will be fighting for their survival at home against City on the final day. OK, will still have City as favourites, but strange things can happen on Matchday 38! If BHA have already secured survival though……forget it.

    #1750378
    mwake
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    If Man City smash Brighton then my suggestion is the warm weather training camp, like the previous year we buckled somewhat after the training camp.

    #1751223
    MrMakaveli
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    Just wanna say one thing.

    The title wasn’t lost, it was won.

    YNWA

    #1751236

    NotoriousBingo
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    Are you really gonna blame it on the camp… it could easily be argued that the camp made sure everyone was fit for the rest of the season. I’m proud of the lads, I just hope the use this setback in our next game.

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