While on subject of sides.. now the worst 11?!

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    romford_pele
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    Just thought I’d turn the debate on it’s head and suggest we pick the worst 11 team assembled under Wenger. I currently have my thinking cap on but look forward to you lads providing your feedback! I have an early start but will chip in tomorrow!
    Can only be the players he bought as well!

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    Al The Gooner
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    This one’s a lot harder than the best eleven because it’s easy to forget about some of the worst players – especially those that even Wenger only showed a little bit of patience with.

    ‘Keepers I’d be torn between Almunia and Szcznesny but probably go for the latter as he was involved a lot more and therefore cost us a lot more.

    RB, very hard as I don’t think we’ve had a really poor RB – I’d put Chambers in but he’s young and could still come good.

    CB – apologies to Granit, but I’ve got to go with his two compatriots, Djourou and Senderos.

    LB – again, difficult as we’ve had some decent players there and I’ve probably forgotten one or two, but I’d say Clichy was the worst of the lot – and he’s not bad at all. Just remembered – Santos! How could I forget him? There was potential there, but he never realised it in red & white.

    RW is difficult. Theo has played there for so long and before him, there was Freddie and Ray and I love all three, so I’ll have to go for Ozil, simply because he is not a RW and should never be played there.

    LW – Arshavin, nuff said.

    CM – again, I’m sure I’m forgetting far worse players, but I’d go with Flamini (2nd time round) and Bentley. The latter was a RW/CF but I’ve covered RW and I only just remembered him – so much raw talent but so, so disappointing.

    Up front – Sanogo, or Park, or Aliadiare, or Jeffers – take your pick. I’d partner one of those with van pur$ie, because he deserves to play with the dogs.

    There’s no doubt an entire eleven worse than the ones I’ve named above but with a memeory like mine, I only have room to remember so much dross.

    PS Eboue will feature in several worst elevens, I’m sure, but I always had a soft spot for him and he’s a bit of a cult hero.

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    The Oracle
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    Shaaban, Eboue, Stepanovs, Squillaci, Santos, Mendez, Denilson, Inamoto, Bischoff, Diawara, Park. Did these off the top of my head, I could also pick another one off the top of my head equally as bad as this pile of bilge.

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    barber_
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    Lemme give it a go. ‘Keeper was going to be Almunia, simply for his pathetic performance in the 2006 CL final. Then I thought about Shaaban, same as Oracle, but remembered at least he played in a couple of CL games as well as some PL games – Man U and Spurs come to mind. His leg break sealed his fate. There were much more useless ones – Emilio Viviani just misses out because it was a loan move rather than a purchase. But the award goes to… Mart Poom of Estonia!

    RB – Justin Hoyte? Eboue had some howler moments, but I think he got more stick from fans than he deserved. Although… Nelson Vivas? At least he cost money cf. Hoyte. Vivas it is.

    CBs – Stepanovs, for sure. Squillachi? Senderos? Silvestre? Djourou guaranteed at least one heart-in-mouth moment per game, but I don’t think he was bad enough to make the XI. Maybe I will go with Squillachi for the sheer disappointment. I wasn’t expecting him to uproot trees but, based on his performances before coming to us, I expected much, MUCH better. He just pips Silvestre to the second CB spot, even though it’s very close!

    LB – Santos. He did get some important goals, but I don’t think we’ve had many bad options at LB. Wouldn’t be fair to stick Mikel or young Tom Cruise from the academy in. So Santos at LB.

    Midfield – Inamoto: very disappointing, considering his reputation beforehand. Alberto Mendez: from a German non-league team to the PL… I’m surprised he didn’t take the league by storm(!)

    LW – Amaury Bischoff, period! And this one is emphatic not just for the player being bad, but the decision by the manager to even touch him. Remarkably injury prone, hadn’t had any time whatsoever to develop, little evidence from past performances that he would succeed… One of those “what was he thinking” signings, for sure! Wenger’s quest for genius very much like Will Smith’s hunt for an Oscar with this one – far-fetched, hapless and ultimately fruitless!

    RW – Diawara. Did a bit better after leaving us, but a raw gem he was not!

    ST – Jeffers (to think he cost us 8m 15yrs ago! That’s like close to the 15-20m mark today, surely? What a waste!) and Park Chu Young. Suker was very disappointing, but not to the extent of making the list. Aliadiere came through the ranks – although, as a Clairefontaine grad, I expected much more! – so I can safely put these two ‘ahead’ of him.

    Wenger’s Wooden Spoon XI (4-4-2):

    M. Poom
    N. Vivas – S. Squillachi – I. Stepanovs – A. Santos
    K. Diawara – J. Inamoto – A. Mendez – A. Bischoff
    – F. Jeffers – P.C. Young

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    AndyC
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    Oracle, its hard to argue with Ramy Shaban being the worst keeper!

    I actually think i agree with all your selections! Maybe not inamoto, he had his moments and was lets face it signed to sell shirts in the asian market. possibly replace him with Kalstrom (if loan players count)

    Christopher Wreh deserves a shout for works striker as does Franny jeffers.

    I wouldnt have Eboue in worst 11, maybe in the 3rd or 4th worst 11 team.

    Players who would easily make the worst signings team also: Chamakh, Arshavin (1 good game), Julio Baptista, Gervinho (more a waste of money), Silvestre, richard wright, Vivas, Stefan Malz, anyone else remeber Grondin.

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    The Oracle
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    Barber, Poom. Come on, that’s hash. He only played 45mins in the 1st team and didn’t concede. Don’t see how that qualifies him as the worst in 20 years. There have been a few who have cost us games. Hulk yes I remember Malz and I saw Godin play a few games. When you cast your mind back there’s scope for two or three worst XI’s.

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    Al The Gooner
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    Barber, I’d completely forgotten about Chamakh. He was a weird one – showed some serious potential when he came to us, but then there was a lot of talk about his private life and it was downhill from there.

    I’ll probably get crucified for this, but I liked Baptista and felt he never really got a fair crack at the whip.

    Grondin rings a bell – wasn’t he one of Wenger’s first signings? And then left within about a year?

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    barber_
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    Hulk – I don’t know. Can’t agree with Källström there – yes, the circumstances surrounding his arrival were weird, to say the least. But he did a decent job for us when he got on the pitch. And to step up and convert a penalty which was instrumental in us getting to the final for our first trophy in so long? Shouldn’t make that list, even if loan players counted.

    Wreh, though – that’s the name I was trying to remember (Kept coming up with Christopher Wren, which didn’t sound right!). But Chamakh had a decent period filling in for RvP. It’s only when he was frozen out following the Dutchman’s return that his confidence went right through the floor. Baptista is a great shout, certainly considering the expectation, but doesn’t make the list ahead of some of those names mentioned. Richard Wright did a job, as did S. Taylor actually – he ended up being very, very useful in the 01/02 and 02/03 seasons.

    Grondin… He was very young, wasn’t he? 500k fee (if memory serves), had just the one league start and a handful of cup games. Didn’t expect much… Then again, similar fee and age at which we got Anelka so…

    Might as well stick the legends that are William Huck and Fabian Caballero in there then, to dredge up some happy memories! As far as Stefan Malz, again he was never really supposed to be a first teamer. But yeah – a contender for sure!

    Oracle – Maybe Poom is harsh… Certainly if it’s about costing us games. Almunia would jump (or fall, depending how you look at it) a few rungs there!

    #1237911

    maxim04
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    I’ll throw these 2 names into the mix. Fabian Caballero (remember him?) and Arturo Lupoli. Easily 2 of the worse strikers that ever put on the red and white.

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    The Oracle
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    Fabian Caballero!!!! I’d forgotten about him. Here’s another gem I almost included
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