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    steveosnakeeye
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    title is becuae i have 2 things o mention and discuss and to lazy for 2 topics!

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    CHINA! Has anyone caught the 3 part documentary on BBC? its following the rise and changes in China since Je jing ping became PM….very very interesting and worrying, tho as has been said before, they just do not fuck about, they way the have dealt with “Muslim Terrorism” for instance!

    Secondly….

    big news wityh the Arabs getting hit where it hurts, concidering the damage done to the refinery and the world due to prices this is some big big news, more so ig it leads back to Iran, if it does….what then? Iran has been getting very big for themselves with the whole tanker saga and now this…worrying times!

    #1783563
    MacGuffin
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    Regarding China, I have not seen the documentary but without doubt China will be the major powerhouse in the future. Look at the silly money they pay Europes knackered players.

    In my view they have been trading unfairly for years and should have been stomped on.

    ASIDE: Something I noticed when last in UK is how you can buy almost anything from China on Ebay and the shipping is free. But go to the post office with a small package to send to China and they want an armand a leg postage.

    Regarding Iran, fair do’s to them. Saudi is bombing the shit out of Yemen so I have no sympathy for them. Iran calculates the US will not respond militarily and even if they did the Iranians are no doubt prepared and have a fair chance of shooting down anything that comes.

    It does not sit well with me the concept that US can build up its nuclear and convential arms willy nilly yet forbids small nations to have nukes. What right does one nation have to nukes that another nation should not have. Ah, the big nations can have them but the small nations cannot. The reason the small nations need them is because of the actions of the big nations. Look at Libya, Iraq, Syria etc.

    #1783565
    redblood
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    Buffy-Agree with Mac,China is taking over the world-enough of the western infidels,lol.
    As for Iran,good luck to them on getting nuclear,who the fuck are USA,Israel,UK,telling them what to do?

    #1783711
    steveosnakeeye
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    id recomend watching the china doc, was good viewing, very interesting

    as for Iran, they shoukdnt have a Nuc and every new country that gets them bring the world that much closer to armegeddon IMHO

    the ol clock might be at 1 minute to 12

    #1783733
    MacGuffin
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    As time passes the knowledge of how to build a nuke will be known to all. The potential Armeggedon is not nations but the nutcases, cults, criminals and the like using dirty nukes. The genie cannot be put back in the bottle, nor can nuclear technology.

    What bothers me is the implicit assumption that some nations are “responsible” enough to have nukes whereas others are not. Its almost colonial and racists. The USA and Israel are hardly the most responsible of nations.

    The death, destruction and suffering that comes from conventional war is hardly a better alternative, in fact its maybe better for it to be all over in one blinding flash than drawn out conflicts.

    The argument is nukes reduce the chance of all out war because self destruction is almost assured, and even the tin pot dictators normally have love of their country.

    I just dont think one nation has the right to demand another nation not possess a weapon it itself possesses (in abundance).

    #1783809
    redblood
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    Buffy-If Iran or any other nations should not be allowed to have them the nobody should,period! Not USA,Russia,UK,Israel,China,France-nobody! Why shouldnt they be allowed to defend themselves? Fucking USA would not have been able to invade half of the world if they had nukes-N.Korea best example! If I going to die-I m taking you down with me.

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    Stevo, thanks for the pointer to China. I watched it on catch up. Simply put wow.

    #1785201
    steveosnakeeye
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    glad you had a catch up 999 it really was an eye opener, some things i knew and some forgotton as news moves on so quick these days… was a very interesting watch tho

    #1785391

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    Certainly was Stevo I’ve visited Hong Kong regularly and there were growing signs that things were changing there after the takeover.

    Where it all goes now given the current circumstances is anyone’s guess. HK has always one of my favourite places in the Far East.

    The programmes were certainly an eye opener though.

    #1785398
    steveosnakeeye
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    rightly or wrongly, when tey want something done they just get it done, i wondered for ages how China would deal with islam….they have shown with the “re education” as shown in the documentary but also now this…..

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/a-crackdown-on-islam-is-spreading-across-china/ar-AAHGQfd?ocid=spartanntp

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