Spain v England ratings: Papers blast Carrick, Bertrand MOTM?

Date published: Saturday 14th November 2015 11:13

Harry Kane, Michael Carrick, Ross Barkley: Not rated highly by papers

Harry Kane, Michael Carrick, Ross Barkley: Not rated highly by papers

Michael Carrick was the worst player on the pitch during England’s 2-0 defeat to Spain on Friday – but the papers were split on Cesc Fabregas’ display.

Goals from right-back Mario – an acrobatic hooked volley that gave Joe Hart no chance – and Santi Cazorla ensured England’s 15-match unbeaten run came to an end on Friday night – with manager Roy Hodgson admitting that his side had been taught a lesson.

England struggled to live with Spain’s possession football during the match, with holding midfielder Michael Carrick receiving the lowest rating of 5 across the media.

And Carrick’s bad night got worse when in the final minute, he was stretchered off with suspected ankle ligament damage.

By contrast, England’s best player on the night was Ryan Bertrand – scoring an average of 7.25.

But they’ll be concern for Hodgson after his forward trio of Ross Barkley, Raheem Sterling and Harry Kane scoring an average of 5.875.

Spain’s best player, according to the newspaper averages, was left-back Jordi Alba, who scored 7, while centre-half Marc Bartra close behind with 6.875.

But it’s the rating of Fabregas which has got us most confused. Here at TEAMtalk, we feel the midfielder had far and away his best game of the season, with only the Daily Mail seeing fit to give him an 8/10 in his average of 6.75.

It was a less than convincing night for his Chelsea team-mate Diego Costa, however, with the Blues striker scoring an average of just 5.75.

The overall team ratings for the night saw Spain score 6.43 and England score 6.05.

 

 

Spain ratings

Player Mirror Sun Telegraph Mail Total Average
Casillas 5 6 6 6.5 23.5 5.875
Mario 6 7 6 7 26 6.5
Pique 6 7 7 7 27 6.75
Bartra 7 6 8 6.5 27.5 6.875
Alba 7 7 7 7 28 7
Thiago 6 7 6 6 25 6.25
Busquets 6 7 7 7 27 6.75
Fabregas 6 7 6 8 27 6.75
Iniesta 6 6 7 7.5 26.5 6.625
Alcacer 4 5 7 6.5 22.5 5.625
Costa 5 6 6 6 23 5.75

 

England ratings

Player Mirror Sun Telegraph Mail Total Average
Hart 5 5 6 7.5 23.5 5.875
Walker 5 7 6 5.5 23.5 5.875
Smalling 7 7 6 7 27 6.75
Jones 7 7 6 6.5 26.5 6.625
Bertrand 8 7 7 7 29 7.25
Carrick 5 5 5 5 20 5
Delph 6 7 6 5.5 24.5 6.125
Lallana 6 5 5 6 22 5.5
Barkley 6 6 6 6 24 6
Sterling 5 5 6 6.5 22.5 5.625
Kane 5 7 6 6 24 6

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  • #705553
    James Marshment
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    Michael Carrick was the worst player on the pitch during England’s 2-0 defeat to Spain – but the papers were split on Cesc Fabregas.

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    #705595

    Johnny Utah
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    Carrick has the same weaknesses he has always had. Its a waste of time picking him for England. Put him under pressure and he disappears. Its why he has only a handful of caps. A Premier League standard midfielder, nothing more nothing less.

    #705823
    theMartial Art
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    I’m not here to defend Carrick’s yesterday performance, but the worst player on the pitch was Lallana followed by headless chicken Sterling. They both played Spain not England! But but, England were unbeaten in the group stage… lol

    #706126

    Denis Irwin
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    These ratings are a joke. Bertrand scored hire than any Spanish player, Spain dominated the game and won 2-0 but that isn’t shown in the ratings from both sides at all. Secondly carsick isn’t appreciated in England, I don’t know why he just doesn’t retire. He’s a possession player so he’s going to struggle in a side that can’t get the ball off Spain, he’s not a tough tackling all action type like Delph, who’s a far inferior player, but that’s what we like in Britiish isles. You just have to look at the amount of stick ozil has got since he’s moved to England, he’s assist stats have been great since he got here, when you look at him play he’s always making space, he’s movement is fantastic, but if you’re not scoring goals or putting in the tackles you’re not really recognised. It’s only this season cause the amount of assists he’s has been ridiculous that’s he’s getting credit. Technical players just aren’t appreciated in England like they are on the continent. Hence the English team is muck and won’t be winning a trophy for the foreseeable.

    #706240

    Johnny Utah
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    Yes, Sven and Fabio did not appreciate and pick Carrick because they are notorious cockneys. Its nothing to do with his shortcomings.

    #706666
    theMartial Art
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    And what did Fabio Capello and Sven Goran Ericson achieved with England by leaving out Carrick? Nothing! Your argument is pathetic.

    Michael Carrick is underrated considering what he has done for Manchester United over the years. He is rarely going to produce dazzling skill and take on several players from the opposing team , or score a ridiculous volley from outside the box as many people seem to expect from him and criticize him for not producing. It simply isn’t going to happen as this is NOT his role in the team especially considering how deep he plays. His role in the team is effectively to keep possession of the ball, whether that means passing it backwards or sideways and at the appropriate time play it forward to the attacking midfielders such as Juan Mata and Ander Herrera of which he does very successfully.

    He also adds extra defensive protection which is underestimated by many simply because he rarely goes sliding into tackles like the man before him Roy Keane who he is often compared to.

    #706675
    whoisbeni
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    every united fan has always told us that if Carrick was spanish he would be valued more – yet he couldn’t play well against spain?

    #706777
    shanksy
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    Carrick is a cart horse, warro.

    #706843

    Johnny Utah
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    TMA, are you saying Fabio or Sven would have won something if they had picked Michael Carrick? That might be the funniest thing I have ever read on here! lol

    #707002

    mufc
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    Carrick was awesome for us 2006-2012, last few years he has been on a Rooney style decline.

    #707164

    Anonymous

    Carrick is like a pair of fake Armani sunglasses. Look the part, but not the real thing.

    #707221
    hatters
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    Carrick is 34 years old and is being used sparingly and wisely by LvG – just like Fergie did with Scholes and Giggs.

    He should do himself a favour and quit the shambles that is the England national side.

    Roy Hodgson should also stop his obsession with United players. He brought in Cleverly and Welbeck – both got much more gametime than their talent warranted because they played for United. Now he’s brought in Lingard after a handful of decent performance for United.

    He’s an idiot and has no idea how to spot talent impartially – very lazy scouting going on there.

    #707980
    Manthistle
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    Such a marmite player.

    The proof will be in the pudding. He’s injured now and most likely will miss the next few Utd matches. Lets see how we do without him. As it stands Utd have an win rate of 82% when he plays yet only 33% when he doesn’t play.

    FYI I’ve already laid Utd on Saturday at 1.91 against Watford.

    #708031
    theMartial Art
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    Johnny Utah – It’s funny that you think Carrick is not good because Capello and Sven didnt select him. Sir Alex signed (ONLY) Carrick to win the PL title back and played him regularly to achieve numerous success.

    Carrick is an integral part of the successful United team. He plays the role that goes unnoticed by many but is important in the team being successful over the years. He doesn’t score or assist loads but dictates the tempo and shields the back line, hardly gives the ball away and is a calm presence on the pitch.

    Carrick should have played for England far more than he has done

    Shanksy – I still remember how you revel when Liverpool sold Agger for 3m and bought Lovren for 20m, LOL

    #708778

    Johnny Utah
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    Are you saying Carrick won the title on his own? (ONLY) You get funnier, old bean!

    #708832
    Moos
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    cant understad what Carrick is still doing in an England team

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